Author Topic: EU in or out ? (Read 44693 times)

fazersharp · « **Reply #25 on:** 18 February 2016, 03:01:37 pm »

I just love the vote bar chart right now it looks exactly like a big middle finger

fazersharp · « **Reply #26 on:** 18 February 2016, 03:03:30 pm »

Anyway why don't we leave and if we don't like it we can just re-join ------------ that's what the French would do, they always seem to what the foc they like.

Robbie8666 · « **Reply #27 on:** 18 February 2016, 04:18:24 pm »

Quote from: fazersharp on 18 February 2016, 03:01:37 pm

I just love the vote bar chart right now it looks exactly like a big middle finger

I'd just noticed that too! lol

lew600fazer · « **Reply #28 on:** 18 February 2016, 04:34:35 pm »

It does lol.
Regardless how the vote goes Cameron will have the vote rigged so we stay in.
From a personal point of view get the vote done and dusted as I have just sold up here in Spain and my other half is wanting to buy again in France. The grand daughter has spoken and wants Grandma & Grandpa to live in France. Why could my son not just have married a British girl and I could get back to the UK. I love my grand daughter but living in France wtf !!!!!!!!!
Still they do have decent roads there.

fazersharp · « **Reply #29 on:** 18 February 2016, 07:16:00 pm »

My prediction is.
Cameron will not get the agreement he is after and will leave saying it was not good enough, that will save his face and he will come home strutting like a peacock.
And there will be no June vote
Mean while France and Germany will put the pressure on the smaller countries to agree to our demands by scaring them that if we leave their gravy train will end,
A new agreement will be sought and agreed (same but re worded)
Cameron will come home and triumph it and a vote will happen in the Autumn.
And then we will leave
Cameron will resign and Boris will become PM.
Mean while we will score no points in the eurovision song contest as the whole of the EU spits on us.

mtread · « **Reply #30 on:** 18 February 2016, 08:55:57 pm »

Fazersharp I think you might be spot on. But you left out one bit. Boris will decide which side he's on only after he knows the result.

darrsi · « **Reply #31 on:** 19 February 2016, 09:45:08 pm »

Looks like we're staying in!

dazza · « **Reply #32 on:** 19 February 2016, 11:09:01 pm »

Sounds like good old Camoron has got us a cracking deal.....Only one problem.....Everything that comes out of his mouth exudes methane

midden · « **Reply #33 on:** 19 February 2016, 11:44:13 pm »

Quote from: fazersharp on 18 February 2016, 07:16:00 pm

My prediction is.
Cameron will not get the agreement he is after and will leave saying it was not good enough, that will save his face and he will come home strutting like a peacock.
And there will be no June vote
Mean while France and Germany will put the pressure on the smaller countries to agree to our demands by scaring them that if we leave their gravy train will end,
A new agreement will be sought and agreed (same but re worded)
Cameron will come home and triumph it and a vote will happen in the Autumn.
And then we will leave
Cameron will resign and Boris will become PM.
Mean while we will score no points in the eurovision song contest as the whole of the EU spits on us.

Boris become PM

I'd rather stay in Europe and welcome the economic migrants

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #34 on:** 20 February 2016, 07:20:37 pm »

There are a couple of things I don't understand (like, everything to do with politics

).

1. What are the current goals of the EU? Is it to eventually become a single large state under a single government? Do any members actually know what they are aiming for in the longer term?

2. There seem to be some rather confused Scots. Some seem to want out from under the yoke of Westminster, but seem quite happy to end up under the yoke of Brussels. What can that be about?

Told ya I'm confused $:\$

unfazed · « **Reply #35 on:** 20 February 2016, 08:18:01 pm »

Quote from: Hedgetrimmer on 20 February 2016, 07:20:37 pm

There are a couple of things I don't understand (like, everything to do with politics ).

1. What are the current goals of the EU? Is it to eventually become a single large state under a single government? Do any members actually know what they are aiming for in the longer term?

2. There seem to be some rather confused Scots. Some seem to want out from under the yoke of Westminster, but seem quite happy to end up under the yoke of Brussels. What can that be about?

Told ya I'm confused $:\$

Ah! but you easily confused

Oldgit · « **Reply #36 on:** 21 February 2016, 12:35:35 pm »

here is a Scot who will be voting OUT.

celticdog · « **Reply #37 on:** 21 February 2016, 01:17:42 pm »

I can wait for a federal Europe!

Time to be decimalised- 100 seconds, 100 minutes in an hour 10 hours a day, 10 days in a week ect.
Esperanto to be the official written and spoken language.
A space program to put a man on Saturn to claim mining rights.
The national debt to be transferred onto a 6 months interest free card.
Zebra crossings to be renamed as they're racist against other animals.
No secular holidays- Christmas to be renamed 'The Winterval Festival'.
Half the grey squirrel population to be painted red to increase red population.
Prison overcrowding, release those who are innocent.
Equal pay- working couples will have the higher earners' wage reduced to be in line with their partner.

Bring it on!

Grayo · « **Reply #38 on:** 21 February 2016, 09:17:22 pm »

dickturpin · « **Reply #39 on:** 21 February 2016, 10:08:36 pm »

Looking forward to the Boris and Trump debates in the future!

lew600fazer · « **Reply #40 on:** 21 February 2016, 10:49:45 pm »

Ah!!! did miss something what fecking deal, the twat has got nothing. No wonder he made it known months ago he will not stand for a third term as PM.
If Boris says out that is good enough for me

Val · « **Reply #41 on:** 22 February 2016, 02:23:18 am »

Quote from: dickturpin on 21 February 2016, 10:08:36 pm

Looking forward to the Boris and Trump debates in the future!

OMG how exactly we can recognise who is who there on the debate?? They both have the same haircut

Slaninar · « **Reply #42 on:** 22 February 2016, 06:30:58 am »

If I understand the politics correctly, if you want Germany to run your monetary policy and Romanians to work for less money in all the service businesses, then you should join the EU.

As far as refugees go:

slimwilly · « **Reply #43 on:** 22 February 2016, 06:44:45 am »

This is probably the reason we never accepted the Euro,,the Pound is ours and will continue, I think this was always on the books, we have to get out and make it alone,,it's all about making our own rules and policing our own borders, at the moment we have to let in all the Romanian,Slovakian benefit tourists and send them family allowance back home for their kids,,what a fookin joke,
There is 3 million of them working here ,paying taxes but the lowest rate of tax,,then they claim it all back in benefits,,JOKE

Slaninar · « **Reply #44 on:** 22 February 2016, 09:01:18 am »

Look on the bright side: as long as your country is the one people run to for benefits, you should be happy.

mr self destruct · « **Reply #45 on:** 22 February 2016, 12:03:38 pm »

Quote from: slimwilly on 22 February 2016, 06:44:45 am

This is probably the reason we never accepted the Euro,,the Pound is ours and will continue, I think this was always on the books, we have to get out and make it alone,,it's all about making our own rules and policing our own borders, at the moment we have to let in all the Romanian,Slovakian benefit tourists and send them family allowance back home for their kids,,what a fookin joke,
There is 3 million of them working here ,paying taxes but the lowest rate of tax,,then they claim it all back in benefits,,JOKE

This is the reason there shouldn't be a referendum at all, this is the depth of knowledge that the UK public has.
We've been fed nothing but Newspaper headlines, slogans and soundbites designed to stir up hatred/panic on both sides of the argument, and from this we're expected to make one of the most important decisions the UK has faced in the last 45 years? THAT is the fucking joke!

I say let those who actually know something in detail about the subject make the decision.

dazza · « **Reply #46 on:** 22 February 2016, 12:41:22 pm »

That would be me then,. For years I have seen our positions at work devalued as the influx of migrant workers have flooded my industry working for less and less. Bosses have cottened on to this and have started to use it as leverage to squeeze our money.
A typical Eastern European can work over here for 5 years and save enough money to buy themselves a lovely property back in their own country outright. Meanwhile, collecting child benefit for every child and sending it abroad. Using loophole companies to pay tthe minimum amount of tax and national insurance so they are not contributing as we are lead to believe.
The British worker is getting squeezed and into debt as they have higher overheads and with their children living in this country the child benefit is not worth as much as it is in Romania or Bulgaria for example.
Europe telling us we have no control over this, not to mention the amount of radicalized maniacs slipping through under the cover of refugee or migrant status. I say no thankyou.
This alone is good enough knowledge to make a decision with.

Phil · « **Reply #47 on:** 22 February 2016, 01:24:25 pm »

Deleted that post as it seems the info I got was incorrect.

fazersharp · « **Reply #48 on:** 22 February 2016, 01:36:11 pm »

The last person I would trust is a politician and I don’t believe its tru when people say they are contributing to our economy - because they spend as little as possible here, living 15 in 1 house and sending every penny they can home.
Here is what I have seen, a lorry in a back street being loaded polish reg cars there was about 3 of them. My wild assumptions are they are going back to Poland to avoid having to register here and the lorry is full of cheap continent fuel and so those cars are not even buying uk fuel to drive back with.

lew600fazer · « **Reply #49 on:** 22 February 2016, 04:22:53 pm »

The thing is if we get out we will have to beef up the navy as we will be going back to the 12 mile offshore fishing limits again. That twat Ted Heath signed away the fishing limits to the EU as part of the deal to get us in. I reckon if we pull out the EU will go into meltdown. Not just because we are a big player in it but I think if truth be told the peoples of western Europe a fedup with crap that is coming out of Brussels