GSXR750...

[anutz]

any one, got any experience with a GSXR750 in comparison to the FZS600, i want to try a sports bike and have been thinking about this one for a while....main concerns are obviously the change in riding positon, has anyone got one and then just had to give it up due to position and go back to the FZs 600....and the increase in power which i suspect will be more pleasant as opposed to scary...

[joebloggs]

any one, got any experience with a GSXR750 in comparison to the FZS600, i want to try a sports bike and have been thinking about this one for a while....main concerns are obviously the change in riding positon, has anyone got one and then just had to give it up due to position and go back to the FZs 600....and the increase in power which i suspect will be more pleasant as opposed to scary...

I think you need to be a little more specific, been producing them since the 80's

[anutz]

K6 or K7 i think just based on price....

[Tubz1983]

Ive owned and used all year round a 2002 gsxr 750 for a few years back in the mid 2000's admittedly that model is not as slim as the k6/7 or as powerful, however even the k2 model when compared to the Fazer is a different world, u are more stretched out, higher pegs etc, not as comfy but still usable imo ( I'm just under 6ft, around 205lbs)  Spec wise it's like night and day, I believe around 145bhp, 164kg dry weight, far far better brakes, handling, equipment, power etc etc... Basically it will rip ur arms off a bit compared to the fazer for a while before u adjust, but not as comfy/practical or rattly lol

[Tubz1983]

Oh and easier to wear those sliders in if ur into that sort of thing lol

[anutz]

Thanks for the useful notes Tubz, main concern IS the position, but may just had to see what happens, can always get it and sell it on

[noggythenog]

When i had my old 600 fazer my mate had a GSXR600.....i think it was a K4.....not too sure...it was quite a rare blue & silver if that means anything by years....he had fancy rearsets....we did a couple hundred miles and he wasnt exactly leaping ahead and id say we were pretty equal with our own capabilities....the last 20 miles we swapped & although i quite liked "lying down" my feet and legs felt wrapped around my ears & it wqs weird using clip ons.........i remember the induction noise was lovely........all in i think it was a nice machine but the leg position was the worst thing and theres no way id live with it like that......my gen2 thou was bad enough with its leg position so i personally need minimum leg bend on a bike & im 5"11 but obviously everyone is different........& im not even on about a 750 either am i but for what its worth if it was me going from my 600 upwards again id probably go straight to a big CC supermoto ish style as imo it is the best combination for normal road use.

[bandit]

I've found that sport bikes tend to be hard on the wrists on the bars due to the angle & can be a killer on long runs.     

[His Dudeness]

I've ridden a k6 and k8 1000 and the seating position does put a lot more weight on your wrists compared to a fazer but as long as you don't have bad wrists you'll get used to it. I think a forward leaning position is a bit more of a natural position to ride in and you can always grip the tank with your legs to give your wrists some relief. I've also ridden a cbr600 and the gsxr is further leaned forward than that so it is pretty leaned over. I could get used to it but I found it a bit extreme for an everyday commuter bike

[joebloggs]

I only rode one of the slabside GSXR's (awful thing) so can't comment on the later bikes but agree that the riding position is possibly more comfortable than sat upright. I had back issues a few moons ago and could hardly drive my car but was fine on the bike.

As for wrist pain etc, theres a speed at which the wind passing over the screen will lift your body weight off your arms, providing you don't have a helmet thats susceptible to buffeting you can sit at that speed all day, well providing you don't get a tug from the old bill

Oh and don't fit a double bubble screen, for me its just a sure way of making your ride more uncomfortable or forcing you to ride faster before you get the benefit of lift from the wind.

[sadlonelygit]

i track a k2 600.
i wouldn't want to more than 1/2 hour on it at any one time as it doesn't suit the 'older' frame.
however my little 600 will keep up with far bigger bikes if you're brave and goes around oulton 3 secs a lap faster than my 1000
so the 750 should be a bit better with a smidge of mid range. just remember tho that they need valves doing every 4K and do attract a 'certain' kind of owner

[anutz]

thanks guys....all things to be aware of, i think i am set on getting one just so i can go there, do it and get the t-shirt...


one question - whats the GXSR600 like compared to the FZS 600, much difference, you see i could also look at that, just after more oomph and a different experience i.e. sports bike

[JoeRock]

thanks guys....all things to be aware of, i think i am set on getting one just so i can go there, do it and get the t-shirt...


one question - whats the GXSR600 like compared to the FZS 600, much difference, you see i could also look at that, just after more oomph and a different experience i.e. sports bike

Much the same as the 750, but as expected its not got the same grunt. Would probably get the 750 really, can't see a good reason to buy the 600 in the GSXR range myself unless you're restricted in a racing class!

[anutz]

thanks - i think its settled, i shall have to see what its like...

[Punkstig]

Adored my srad750, older sport bike that you sit in rather than on, I found it comfortable- but everyone's different on that side of bikes!
But by fuckery did it go (although it had considerable engine work done to it!) I'll be having another one when it's time to change!

[joebloggs]

I'd go with the 750 just for the thrust, first time you use anything with 120bhp  + it'll blow your mind, and anyone who says they stayed with one on a FZS600 is either lying or the owner wasn't trying.

[sadlonelygit]

one question - whats the GXSR600 like compared to the FZS 600, much difference, you see i could also look at that, just after more oomph and a different experience i.e. sports bike

i have no idea how the fzs6 goes like, but the gsxr is like an old 2 stroke, drop below 9k rpm and it just makes a noise but no real power, the 750 can handle sub 5k pootling.
if you can afford it the k4-5 are the best buy

[Hedgetrimmer]

just remember tho that they need valves doing every 4K

   This I didn't know! Even on a road-only bike? 4k services is one thing, but this...

anyone who says they stayed with one on a FZS600 is either lying or the owner wasn't trying.

Oh, I dunno. Plenty of sports bike riders out there who seem to be trying but just don't know what they're doing 

[noggythenog]

I sat on an old Yamaha FZR750 & it was unbelievably comfy....I was quite shocked......I should have test ridden it there and then but I didn't realise how collectable they were becoming and in my mind it was a bit tatty for the price....it was probably just left as is with a little bit of dirt.....anyway to look at it you wouldn't have imagined that it would be comfy and ok I didn't ride it but it was a real surprise.....I think I would like one.

[sadlonelygit]

just remember tho that they need valves doing every 4K

   This I didn't know! Even on a road-only bike? 4k services is one thing, but this...

my bad..........just checked my manual, 4k for oil and filters, 7k for plugs and 15k for valves. my early 1100 is 4k for valves but they are screw and locknut

[Deefer666]

I own a K1 750 and compared to any of my FZS600s its a fucking animal. I believe they tamed the FI gixxers down after the Y & K1 models to make them more ridable and more civilised. All I can say is that mine is a complete headbanger of a bike. I have ridden later models and they all seem to have a more extreme riding position.

[Millietant]

anyone who says they stayed with one on a FZS600 is either lying or the owner wasn't trying.

Oh, I dunno. Plenty of sports bike riders out there who seem to be trying but just don't know what they're doing 


I can second nod that - a couple of years back I met up with my brother and his "Sportsbike" mates at Leyburn - they were going over to Devils Bridge and really sneered at my FJ 1200, especially with me having my son on pillion - and also sneered at my wife on her VF 750. Long before we got to Devils, we had to pull ver to wait for all the "fast" bikes - and there was no more sneering.

There were 2 GSXR 1000's, a R1, a Fireblade, a Honda SP2 and a GSXR 600 (my brother). My brother was laughing with us because he knew those guys wouldn't keep up with us - they were all relatively "new" riders who'd come to bikes late and gone from passing their tests straight onto the latest sports bikes.

They couldn't ride for toffee - any half decent rider on one of those bikes would leave us in a blink of the eye as soon as the road started to bend.

So - I can easily believe someone in a Fazer 600 could keep up with a GSXR - I also remember GP racer Paul (Loopy) Lewis challenging all-comers to a race, their road bike against his Harley 'Glide on any track in the U.K.

From what I recall he never got beaten.

[Deefer666]

I regularly have sports bike riders sneer at my FJ1200..... Yeah? Lardy Old Dinosaur? Wallowy tourer? LOL Guess again suckers?

But seriously I have shamed many a sports bike whilst riding an FZS600. The FZS600 is a superb handling bike and unless you are on a straight road bike sports bikes don't have that much of an advantage so long as it has a decent rider on board.

[joebloggs]

I regularly have sports bike riders sneer at my FJ1200..... Yeah? Lardy Old Dinosaur? Wallowy tourer? LOL Guess again suckers?

But seriously I have shamed many a sports bike whilst riding an FZS600. The FZS600 is a superb handling bike and unless you are on a straight road bike sports bikes don't have that much of an advantage so long as it has a decent rider on board.

My point was that if a rider has the skill to use most of the power, brakes etc of a sports bike the 600's going to be left for dead but one thing you would miss is thrashing the bike through the gears trying to get the last bit of power and speed out of it, larger capacity bikes are so quick you find yourself the wrong side of 100 within seconds and sure you can keep on the gas but you can't ride around at those sort of speeds all day without risking either your licence of your neck

This probably sounds dumb, but if your looking for the sports bike experiance might be worth considering one of the 400's, ZXR, FZR or one of the Suzuki's, all brilliant little sports bikes that handle, you can thrash them all day and you really have to work to get the best out of them. Bit gutless two up but thats not what they are for.

[noggythenog]

Pound for pound a sportsbike should be better than an fzs600......not that the fzs is a bad bike.....and to some degree it is a bit of a sportsbike with its engine & the way it revs......not as if it is an old twin shock bonneville is it......made by the same japanese masters of all things fast.


But we shouldnt be talking riders as we are comparing the bikes.....and the same rider should be able to outperform on the sportsbike......better quality parts, wider rear tyre, designed to corner fast.




Hiwever as a package on the road the fzs has some advantages....greater view over obstacles, comfier, more forgiving if you mess up and more softly sprung for today pot holed and rutted messes we call roads........it wont be long before roads arent much better than farm tracks and then youll have dirt bike riders saying they can beat fzs600's & sports bikes.




There are still a few sweet roads in wales though where i would like to take a true sports bike.....A44 for one, smooth, sweeping fast bends, excellent road surfaces......heaven