How To Behave In a Speed Awareness Course

[darrsi]

Not this one 

[Ian-man]

When I went to one a few years ago there was one guy turned up late. He kicked off when they wouldn't let him in. He tried to hit one of them so they arrested him and the police took him away. The tutor said he smelt of drink too. It certainly made it interesting. I got a letter of apology in the post a few weeks later for the disruption to the course, lol.

[darrsi]

When I went to one a few years ago there was one guy turned up late. He kicked off when they wouldn't let him in. He tried to hit one of them so they arrested him and the police took him away. The tutor said he smelt of drink too. It certainly made it interesting. I got a letter of apology in the post a few weeks later for the disruption to the course, lol.

Probably left a bus full of passengers in limbo outside as well. 

[Frosties]

Not this one 

Why not............if you're going to do it. Was your bloody idea I can't get out of my head 

[youngsterbiker]

So what if you have two lanes a central reservation and street lights.....

Doesn't it also have something to do with the street light spacing?

a central reservation makes it a dual carriageway. The central reservation can be as small as a curb.
Street lights mean 30 UNLESS there is a small repeater sign on them. For example on a motorway with street lights, you should see small 70 signs on them. If not then assume it's 30.
at least that's what I remember. ☺

[noggythenog]

So what if you have two lanes a central reservation and street lights.....

Doesn't it also have something to do with the street light spacing?

a central reservation makes it a dual carriageway. The central reservation can be as small as a curb.
Street lights mean 30 UNLESS there is a small repeater sign on them. For example on a motorway with street lights, you should see small 70 signs on them. If not then assume it's 30.
at least that's what I remember. ☺

My memory is hazy but im pretty sure they said that the central reservation has to be solid so just a bit of grass between 2 lanes going one way and 2 the other way does not make it a dual carriageway..............so you could be doing 70mph thinking you are in the right when actually you are speeding.....maybe I need another refresher

[Grayo]

Only a solid barrier makes it a Dual Carriageway and a 70 mph speed limit.
A grass verge or similar makes it a two lane road (not a dual carriageway) and a 60mph speed limit unless otherwise stated.

[Hedgetrimmer]

Frosties, I will pay good money for you to take a video camera there, and pretend you have severe tourettes 

[Frosties]

Frosties, I will pay good money for you to take a video camera there, and pretend you have severe tourettes 

You don't know me Nick - how much we talking

[Val]

Speed Awareness Course is very nice. I am ashamed to admit I have been on two in the last few years 

Exactly the same case caught me with 54 in a 40 on my local road on a place with mobile speed camera which usually sits there Sunday which I know perfectly well. I have to say I do NOT ride like lunatic. This day the sun was shining and I was just admiring the skyline 

The second time the guy who led the course was a advanced police biker.

Actually the thing is not a course at all. It is more like presentation with Q&A and a breaks for tea and nice biscuits. Because you pay £95 usually the venue is nice and the tea with the biscuits are free.

You listen most of the time. Its fine to have few jokes around. If successful everybody are laughing. Sometimes there is a silence. You know the joke was bad or inappropriate or both 

All in all the best expereince you may have related to speeding 

Just go there and make sure you are not late, its fine.

[sinto]

@  frosties
Surely if you behaved in the first place you wouldn't be asking "How To Behave In a Speed Awareness Course"?

[sadlonelygit]

turned up to mine and the exhausts were still ticking when the inquisitor walked past 10 mins after i arrived.

[Grahamm]

Only a solid barrier makes it a Dual Carriageway and a 70 mph speed limit.
A grass verge or similar makes it a two lane road (not a dual carriageway) and a 60mph speed limit unless otherwise stated.

Err, nope.

Any central reservation (solid or grass) makes it a Dual Carriageway.

"A dual carriageway is a road which has a central reservation to separate the carriageways" - Highway Code.

The speed limit for a standard car or bike on a Dual Carriageway is 70mph unless there are signs indicating a lower limit.

[stevierst]

My son turned up late for his, and got told it was none attendance. He was told also that he could pay for another course, or accept the fine/points.

Wife attended one in the car, and felt like she was in detention at school. The instructor continually patronized her and said she was driving wrong!

We also had a friend of mine who's a police advanced bike instructor attend the course, his blood was boiling by the time he got back from it. He said they were obnoxious tw@'s that didn't care what his qualifications were, and came out with a lot of bullshit about speed, and even some 'facts & figures' which were not entirely true. One being the mobile phone argument! Bell ends!

My local one looks like it's full of Hitler wannabe's! I'm sure they're not all like that though by the sound of it.

[darrsi]

My son turned up late for his, and got told it was none attendance. He was told also that he could pay for another course, or accept the fine/points.

Wife attended one in the car, and felt like she was in detention at school. The instructor continually patronized her and said she was driving wrong!

We also had a friend of mine who's a police advanced bike instructor attend the course, his blood was boiling by the time he got back from it. He said they were obnoxious tw@'s that didn't care what his qualifications were, and came out with a lot of bullshit about speed, and even some 'facts & figures' which were not entirely true. One being the mobile phone argument! Bell ends!

My local one looks like it's full of Hitler wannabe's! I'm sure they're not all like that though by the sound of it.

 

[stevierst]

That's one of the buggers! "I'll get you butler"

[richfzs]

Only a solid barrier makes it a Dual Carriageway and a 70 mph speed limit.
A grass verge or similar makes it a two lane road (not a dual carriageway) and a 60mph speed limit unless otherwise stated.

As Graham said - this is wrong.....

[Grayo]

Only a solid barrier makes it a Dual Carriageway and a 70 mph speed limit.
A grass verge or similar makes it a two lane road (not a dual carriageway) and a 60mph speed limit unless otherwise stated.

As Graham said - this is wrong.....

Well thanks for enlightening us with your full and frank explanation.

[noggythenog]

so these instructors on the speed awareness course have been preaching lies about dual carriageways then....they really made a big dealt out of it.....said if it was grass then it didn't count......perhaps I should get my money back.

P.s - this has now become Frosties goal on the course to give them stick about the point

[sinto]

this has now become Frosties goal on the course to give them stick about the point

Maybe, we should make up a list for him to ask, and he can report back

I suggest asking how come foreign drivers never get pulled over for speeding and sent on these courses? 
btw, we don't have such options in Scotland, we just get fined and points !

[BBROWN1664]

Grahamm

The M1 only had grass between the carriage ways when it opened. Some of the M40  a couple of years ago was the same.

[Frosties]

this has now become Frosties goal on the course to give them stick about the point

Maybe, we should make up a list for him to ask, and he can report back

I suggest asking how come foreign drivers never get pulled over for speeding and sent on these courses? 
btw, we don't have such options in Scotland, we just get fined and points !

Go on then, give me a list of questions seen as Nick is not putting up the cash for a tourettes sufferer 

Still planning a clown outfit though.......water flower spray, hand buzzer etc    BLAME DARRSI !!

[sinto]

As above really Frosties,
How come foreign drivers never get pulled over for speeding and sent on these courses? 

[stevierst]

As above really Frosties,
How come foreign drivers never get pulled over for speeding and sent on these courses?

Well for a start the foreign drivers are a lot harder to track down, as UK don't have access to foreign driver databases, addresses, licence details etc....

The only way to catch them is to pull them over at the time of them speeding, then they just get prosecuted, no speed awareness for them.

Also, could you imagine going to france/italy/germany, and sitting in a speed awareness course in their language? Stuff that, giz the fine! :P

[HarryHornby]

Could you ask him why they say it's only speed that kills when there are plenty of other drugs out there that also kill, heroin for example, personally I think heroin is much more dangerous than speed