Author Topic: Sprucing up the old FZ1 (Read 31533 times)

noggythenog · « **Reply #100 on:** 27 February 2015, 07:04:55 pm »

YES!!!!!

Ya foccin dancer! Woop woop!

From this pile o 600 gumpf...eventually comes the half of the housing that i need......where was it.....hidden inside the bloody airbox

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Just gotta hope that it is the same piece which it looks to be and redeem my earlier stupidity.

slimwilly · « **Reply #101 on:** 28 February 2015, 08:52:02 am »

You may already have this but here it is anyway

http://www.manualslib.com/manual/611157/Yamaha-Fz1-S.html#manual

Complete FZ1s gen 2 Manual

noggythenog · « **Reply #102 on:** 28 February 2015, 09:36:06 am »

Quote from: slimwilly on 28 February 2015, 08:52:02 am

You may already have this but here it is anyway

http://www.manualslib.com/manual/611157/Yamaha-Fz1-S.html#manual

Complete FZ1s gen 2 Manual

Cheers Slim

noggythenog · « **Reply #103 on:** 28 February 2015, 04:39:41 pm »

Not much progress today

Thought my 600 throttle housing was the same but it wasnt so had to venture on ebay...16 foccin quid for my troubles.....that's what i get for not owning torque wrenches.

Sorted out getting rid of the extra messy wiring from the front end from gps and grips etc, cut off the cable tidy bracket on the left side for extra cable clearance on full lock and then started looking at the front tank bolts (sides).......particularly annoying spinny bracket thingies and i can line up 1 side but then the other side is too far out to sit on its bracket so it slides down...most annoying.....i settled with a folded up cloth between the tank and airbox to act as a spacer but although it works perfectly well it looks a tad bodgy so ill maybe get some official looking black sponge glued on or something.

It was foccing cold and windy and then it started raining so i abandoned everything and went to the shops for some Bevvy instead

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #104 on:** 28 February 2015, 06:12:05 pm »

Do you really need a torque wrench for a couple of throttle housing bolts? Do you have pigs tits for fingers?

noggythenog · « **Reply #105 on:** 28 February 2015, 06:25:07 pm »

Quote from: nick crisp on 28 February 2015, 06:12:05 pm

Do you really need a torque wrench for a couple of throttle housing bolts? Do you have pigs tits for fingers?

It would appear that i do $:\$ ....didnt want it being too loose

Maybe it was just brittle...brittle bike syndrome $:\$

slimwilly · « **Reply #106 on:** 28 February 2015, 06:36:50 pm »

I won't suck on any pigs tits anymore

Makes me feel sick

noggythenog · « **Reply #107 on:** 20 March 2015, 10:13:06 pm »

Some new goodies have arrived in noggy HQ

All the gear, no idea springs to mind

brooker81 · « **Reply #108 on:** 21 March 2015, 07:00:52 am »

Oooohhh. Nice

Falcon 269 · « **Reply #109 on:** 21 March 2015, 07:53:38 am »

Beware the torque wrench. Seriously, it'll give you a false sense of security if you don't have any feel for what is right and what is too tight. Too tight as in 'oh, shit, it's stripped the thread'.

Small fasteners require a light touch. Never use more than a light grip and tighten with fingers, maybe some wrist but never elbow or arm. If you're using a spanner or wrench, hold it close to the working parts, not out at the end where torque effort is magnified.

It's all about feel and mechanical empathy, Grasshopper.

noggythenog · « **Reply #110 on:** 21 March 2015, 08:36:04 am »

Quote from: Falcon 269 on 21 March 2015, 07:53:38 am

Beware the torque wrench. Seriously, it'll give you a false sense of security if you don't have any feel for what is right and what is too tight. Too tight as in 'oh, shit, it's stripped the thread'.

Small fasteners require a light touch. Never use more than a light grip and tighten with fingers, maybe some wrist but never elbow or arm. If you're using a spanner or wrench, hold it close to the working parts, not out at the end where torque effort is magnified.

It's all about feel and mechanical empathy, Grasshopper.

It runs in the family to be too harsh with tightening, my old man was a fitter/turner back in the day and was used to more larger stuff, his yam mechanic mate told him he'd be cheaper long term coming to him rather than breaking everything he touches

......seems im the same.....i just have a fear of stuff coming undone at speed so ive now got a small range wrench and a high range for the bigger jobs.

Stunning day today i hope to get some stuff done on the bike fingers crossed.

Cheers for the tips mr Falcon, may seem obvious to some but thats the kind of help i need since im an office jockey by trade.

noggythenog · « **Reply #111 on:** 21 March 2015, 06:24:15 pm »

Bit of a foc around today.

Took me ages just to figure out how to get my snapped throttle cable off......the bottom cable is so awkward at the throttle body side...i had to do it from the right hand side but the gubbings for it was the opposite side an basically shrouded by stuff, no room to move or see....eventually poked it out but ill need some divine powers to get the new one back on again....the cable was frayed in roughly the same place that the other one snapped...not quite sure if that is age and wear & tear or if it has been stretched.

I then attacked these connectors with contact cleaner & dielectric grease.

Took my rear fender off and was gonna replace it with my carbon one but then i noticed that the small brake cable hose and another one could do with a lick of paint so ill do that first.

Basically wasted allot o time with that bloody throttle cable though.

noggythenog · « **Reply #112 on:** 21 March 2015, 07:00:20 pm »

Gratuitous pic

Also can anyone confirm that even if i have to buy a special gadget that i can still oil my throttle cable perfectly easily when it is all connected up???....i just cant be arsed pissing about wasting time trying to figure out oiling it now on the cheap so if i can manage to fit the cable to orrow by some miracle then ill splash out for an oiling tool another time.

noggythenog · « **Reply #113 on:** 22 March 2015, 06:06:33 pm »

I have had the biggest ballache going today. Spent a long time just trying to feed the new throttle cables through the space behind the radiator, blind as usual of course. Then it was time to get the cables onto the throttle body pulley.

A whole day later, sore fingers, a walk on the beach with the dog to stop me pouring petrol over the bike & sparking it up & i think i've got somewhere. Im not sure though, i cant quite believe that it is done but i wanted to come inside for the night with positive feelings.

The top cable was ok to do....ish....still lots of bending the cable end round on itself to slip into the nick before going into the hole, still finger achingly fiddly.

The bottom one is a device straight from satans arse hole. 100 times i must have tried it, honestly my finger tips are stinging just typing on my ipad. Say one thing about me say im bloody stubborn & i honestly dont know how i managed it in the end (thats why i cant quite believe i have done it).

The pics show how tight it is, you cant really move your hand due to the frame crossmember above it. You extend the wire as much as poss & then basically fumble in the dark like some kind of evil fairground prize game. The end went in the hole loads of times but wasnt inside the nick which incidentally you couldnt actually see either so as soon as you moved it would jump out of the hole again. The space also isnt big enough to get a finger down inside so you cant really just push it in from behind.

Evil evil evil evil evil

Next to do is connect up throttle grip side & then learn how to adjust the cables, only then will i believe.

noggythenog · « **Reply #114 on:** 22 March 2015, 06:07:42 pm »

Done..........i hope $:\$

taylor · « **Reply #115 on:** 22 March 2015, 09:01:18 pm »

nice one noggy well done, looks like a lot of head work.

noggythenog · « **Reply #116 on:** 23 March 2015, 05:17:41 pm »

Easier job today, fitted this petrol cap, a bit OTT but o well.......think ill get some black bolts for it to dumb it down a bit

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #117 on:** 23 March 2015, 06:00:21 pm »

Noggy, can I make a small suggestion? Why not have your second thoughts before you buy stuff?

Just an idea...

noggythenog · « **Reply #118 on:** 23 March 2015, 06:22:10 pm »

Quote from: nick crisp on 23 March 2015, 06:00:21 pm

Noggy, can I make a small suggestion? Why not have your second thoughts before you buy stuff?

Just an idea...

Nick this isnt actually a petrol cap...its a teaching aid.......it has tought me that i need a black one with a silver inner and gold bolts

.......this one will get relegated to the bits for future bikes or the noggy shop

Hedgetrimmer · « **Reply #119 on:** 23 March 2015, 06:37:48 pm »

It's a steep ol' learning curve ain't it

Safer to just not buy anything and be a cheapskate like me

brooker81 · « **Reply #120 on:** 23 March 2015, 07:54:27 pm »

Yeah u should have got the rizoma one. Do u like it noggy it's a tad on the bling side.

noggythenog · « **Reply #121 on:** 23 March 2015, 08:13:45 pm »

Quote from: brooker81 on 23 March 2015, 07:54:27 pm

Yeah u should have got the rizoma one. Do u like it noggy it's a tad on the bling side.

I dont think i do like it but im gonna wait until all the other gubbings are on it before i make a final decision.....it would look better on a black tank....subsequently i have a black tank sat up in the spare room because my red one is a tad rusty.......but i cant see that a black tank would look ok on the bike....or would it?....perhaps.....too many decisions.

But anyway if that petrol cap does my head in whe all is done then a black one it is......not at Rizoma prices though im afraid. $:\$

noggythenog · « **Reply #122 on:** 24 March 2015, 10:33:57 am »

ordered a black cap now

slimwilly · « **Reply #123 on:** 24 March 2015, 08:54:06 pm »

you forgot to trim you secondary throttle flies,,,go on ,,,,do it man

noggythenog · « **Reply #124 on:** 24 March 2015, 09:12:50 pm »

Quote from: slimwilly on 24 March 2015, 08:54:06 pm

you forgot to trim you secondary throttle flies,,,go on ,,,,do it man

Im not too sure about that mod slim, and what the foc dya trim them with anyway?.......think ill leave it for now anyway as i want to test out the mods one by one to notice any difference, ill run it a little while as is and then add the power commander and then add whatever else after that.

Anyway we all know my bike wont start in the first place after all this