Oh fuck, not again....

[tkwish]

Relax your young and with all this experience it will make you a safer rider cause you will have learnt from your mistakes.......... .If you live that long

[ChristoT]

They're all "offs" and the idea is to avoid them. Stop kidding yourself. Pissing about on a field with a nicked C90 might not count, but you're riding a bike on the road now. If you drop it at walking pace, who's to say an artic won't come along and grind you to paste?
(Not suggesting you used to nick bikes and piss off over the fields with them!    )

Funnily enough, my first bike was a 1971 Honda PF50 Amigo that I rode round the fields. Never came off him though... 

[lew600fazer]

Christo, who is your insurance company they are obviously very understanding. A cat they say has nines lives, Christo please go get some rider training, you seem to be making light of your misfortune to a certain extent. Just bare this in mind though, how would you feel if you had an off and a car or truck swerves to avoid you mounts a pavement and takes out a load of school kids standing at a bus stop.
How about track days, as you would seem to want to ride hard, at least you would be under supervision and in the event of an off a few bumps and bruises.
Stay safe

[robby boy]

First of all I'm glad you are ok, I crashed my bike the day I passed my test, a totally noob mistake on a crud encrusted singal track road, I'm to long in the tooth to put my body through that again, I would advise you to get extra training, you say you are skint and have no money, if you land yourself in hospital for a couple of months after a more serious off where is the money going to come from?.


This is merely my observation to your current predicament. [size=78%] [/size]

[His Dudeness]

stop falling off

[dazza]

'On that note,  Kent fire bike team are doing ride skills day's at Brands Hatch for £50. This includes biker down refresher,basic first aid, slow speed control, classroom theory,  a one to one ride out with an iams instructor and two 20 minutes track sessions.well worth the money and recommended for all abilities.

[ChristoT]

'On that note,  Kent fire bike team are doing ride skills day's at Brands Hatch for £50. This includes biker down refresher,basic first aid, slow speed control, classroom theory,  a one to one ride out with an iams instructor and two 20 minutes track sessions.well worth the money and recommended for all abilities.

I'm assuming that's for riders ABOVE the fucking 33bhp limiter? I blame that thing a lot as well - I know how the bike can perform normally, and the bastard thing keeps holding me back. Infuriating. I reckon I'll be a lot calmer when the kit's out (and preferably violently destroyed to boot).

[His Dudeness]

'On that note,  Kent fire bike team are doing ride skills day's at Brands Hatch for £50. This includes biker down refresher,basic first aid, slow speed control, classroom theory,  a one to one ride out with an iams instructor and two 20 minutes track sessions.well worth the money and recommended for all abilities.

I'm assuming that's for riders ABOVE the fucking 33bhp limiter? I blame that thing a lot as well - I know how the bike can perform normally, and the bastard thing keeps holding me back. Infuriating. I reckon I'll be a lot calmer when the kit's out (and preferably violently destroyed to boot).

You need to blame yourself not external stuff. There's times when you can go quick but imo riding on the road is mostly about self preservation not going quick. Maybe you should get a track bike instead of a road bike if you can't change your attitude.

[robby boy]

I sometimes think this site should have a like button.

[unfazed]

It really sounds like you lack experience and have the wrong attitude, if you cannot exercise control and the ability to read the conditions on 33 bhp then you will have serious problems on anything above it. I have said it on previous posts, buy a trail bike and do some off roading. This does two thing, teaches control and how to read the conditions. I thought both my sons to ride off road and how to read the conditions first. When they began riding on the road they at least knew how to read the conditions. Both of them have had minor road accidents and have learned from them and when we discussed them they discovered they were caused by lack of concentration and complacency. Reading your accounts it appears to be the same and you have not read the conditions.
I am glad you are not hurt, but if you continue like this, without the benefit of advice from experienced riders or training I really fear for your life.
Believe me I speak from the experience of someone who came off his bike at 20mph and went under the wheels of an Artic truck which was driving behind me. The fact I am alive and can still walk has surprised many, me included.

[midden]

I sometimes think this site should have a like button.

Count this as like button pressed

[midden]

'On that note,  Kent fire bike team are doing ride skills day's at Brands Hatch for £50. This includes biker down refresher,basic first aid, slow speed control, classroom theory,  a one to one ride out with an iams instructor and two 20 minutes track sessions.well worth the money and recommended for all abilities.

I'm assuming that's for riders ABOVE the fucking 33bhp limiter? I blame that thing a lot as well - I know how the bike can perform normally, and the bastard thing keeps holding me back. Infuriating. I reckon I'll be a lot calmer when the kit's out (and preferably violently destroyed to boot).

Just a thought for a nickname change and career option to stop you being skint:
You should  become a CRASH TEST DUMMY 

[Exupnut]

He's already a crash dummy so not such a big step......

[dazza]

'On that note,  Kent fire bike team are doing ride skills day's at Brands Hatch for £50. This includes biker down refresher,basic first aid, slow speed control, classroom theory,  a one to one ride out with an iams instructor and two 20 minutes track sessions.well worth the money and recommended for all abilities.

I'm assuming that's for riders ABOVE the fucking 33bhp limiter?

Don't know about that Christo but have just messaged the organiser with that question for you. If you are interested I will send you the contact details.

[Dave48]

Sorry to hear about your latest in a line of "misfortunes". If you can take a little time to analyse your own thinking & actions you will see its not about 33bhp restrictors, poor surfaces, unexpected objects in road, other road users etc. Training is about changing your thinking to improve your riding skills which appear to be very poor at present & certainly nothing to joke about on here or anywhere else for that matter.
Sounds harsh I know but theres so much unnecessary carnage on the roads often a result of drivers/riders making assumptions. Ride to what you can see, what you cant & what could happen round that next bend! Others have suggested off-road training to improve your observational/machine control skills. Get your riding assessed to highlight areas that require work-after all we want to continue to read your humorous posts-the ones that don't involve "Kamikazi" tactics.

[RobG UK]

To make you feel better. I have well over 9 crashes.  But then again mine were spread over 30 odd years and, if you are still on a limiter, yours have been over 2.
 
But take heart, look at the guys in Bike racing.  Many throw it down the road on a regular basis in the beginning. Then they realise they are doing something wrong and adapt and some even go on to be world champions.
 
So my advice like many others is to look at what you are doing on a bike and why you crash when others don't.(except me of course LOL)

[dazza]

Christo, have just heard back from Kent fire bike team. Your 33 bhp restriction is not a problem. If you mention you was recommended from the fazer forum you will get special attention from Jim who will be looking out for you. If money is the problem I for one would be willing do donate some towards this. You've been lucky so far but you're playing an odds game which is ultimately stacked against you. Contact details are james.sanderson@kent.fire-uk.org   

[ChristoT]

Christo, have just heard back from Kent fire bike team. Your 33 bhp restriction is not a problem. If you mention you was recommended from the fazer forum you will get special attention from Jim who will be looking out for you. If money is the problem I for one would be willing do donate some towards this. You've been lucky so far but you're playing an odds game which is ultimately stacked against you. Contact details are james.sanderson@kent.fire-uk.org   

Sounds interesting. What day is this?

[Punkstig]

Tbh- I'm interested in this day out too but can't find anything on their website!

[apage16]

I'd definitely be up for something like that. I'm going to pop my track day cherry in 2014, so this sounds like a good step towards it!

Maybe a FOC day out!? ( and group discount)

[dazza]

Don't know about dates. Try checking Kent Fire Bike out on Facebook or emailing James.sanderson@kent.fire_uk.org A focu meet would be good when the weather gets a bit warmer and more predictable, if that's possible in this country.'

[ChristoT]

If I can get the fairing fixed up decently, and good rubber on my wheels, I'm going to do a track day in July. When the restrictor's out, and the weather's better! 

Nowt on their site, and a fair hike for me too. As I now HAVE to get new tyres (order of Mum, the parents have finally twigged a bike needs decent tyres. Still have to pay myself though...  ), I'm losing over £200 before I start as I'm getting Pilot Roads again. And them fuckers ain't cheap.

[midden]

If I can get the fairing fixed up decently, and good rubber on my wheels, I'm going to do a track day in July. When the restrictor's out, and the weather's better! 

Nowt on their site, and a fair hike for me too. As I now HAVE to get new tyres (order of Mum, the parents have finally twigged a bike needs decent tyres. Still have to pay myself though...  ), I'm losing over £200 before I start as I'm getting Pilot Roads again. And them fuckers ain't cheap.

Surely if money is an issue cheap legal rated basic tyres would do the job just as well.  especially since you suggest the restrictor severely reduces the bikes performance.


Why fit a Lada with lamborgini tyres

[JoeRock]

To get this straight, you're complaining that you have to pay for your own tyres? What model of pilot road are you getting? Can save quite a bit of money now if you buy the twos, they're still good tyres and you won't exactly be able to stress then on a 33 bike!

[ChristoT]

To get this straight, you're complaining that you have to pay for your own tyres?

Just complaining that they're quite happy to lay down rules without actually helping. Especially as I thought they were going to contribute to tyres as a Christmas present... 

you won't exactly be able to stress then on a 33 bike!

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... breath... hahahahahahahahahahaha.

Not seen the way I ride, have you? Tyre stress hasn't got all that much to do with ccs or bhp!!