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Less Pies for the Fazer Thou ?!
« on: 23 November 2011, 05:18:22 pm »
  :) Eyup, thought I’d pick the collective FOC-U brain about tips for Fazer thou weight saving !

I’ve been thinking of how I might shed a few pounds from mi ’05 Fazer, I’d have thought the bulk of the weight is in the engine and frame, and that there’s not a vast amount that could be done there to reduce weight - or is there ?

Looking round the bike, there are a few obvious things (remove rear footrests (if you don’t do pillion !), remove the metal frame covers around the swing-arm pivot area, etc) but I can’t think of much else that will really save much weight, maybe three or four kilos ?

A lightweight battery (at a price !) should save a further three kilos, and the only other major thing I’ve thought of is lightweight wheels, although again very pricey for something that will save significant weight !

Any other thoughts about how weight can be saved ?

I suppose this post is a bit of winter fun really, and I fully expect the usual “cut down on the pies – the bike is the least of your worries” type replies, but thought it would be good to share any Fazer weight saving tips !

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Re: Less Pies for the Fazer Thou ?!
« Reply #1 on: 23 November 2011, 07:07:36 pm »
the exhaust is heavy,an aftermarket can alone will save weight

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Re: Less Pies for the Fazer Thou ?!
« Reply #2 on: 23 November 2011, 07:56:40 pm »
You can do this to lose 50lbs.

http://www.yamahafz1oa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=105077&highlight=streetfighter+conversion

Not as practical a bike after this conversion, tho

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Re: Less Pies for the Fazer Thou ?!
« Reply #3 on: 23 November 2011, 09:10:28 pm »
Managed to take about 10 kilos off my gen1 by the following means. Beowolf end can - 3 kg, R1 forks - 2.5 kg, remove the AIS - 1kg, fitted renthal alloy bars minus the end weights i just put alloy plugs in,   changed to braided hoses race style, eliminating the heavy connecting block on the bottom yoke, removed the heavy & useless weights under the passenger footrests. Fitted a R6 shock almost 1kg saved. Just when i thought i had got everything i found yet another useless weight behind the left hand heel guard. I can really feel the difference particularly at the front end. This has become an obsession now and i have just taken the toolkit out, well i am in the AA. Removing the bar end weights did not result in any increased vibes. 

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« Reply #4 on: 23 November 2011, 10:50:41 pm »
Just buy some light weight wheels and you will get many benefits not just weight saving either.
 
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Re: Less Pies for the Fazer Thou ?!
« Reply #5 on: 24 November 2011, 08:12:42 am »
Just buy some light weight wheels and you will get many benefits not just weight saving either.

Aye, and think of the weight you'll take out of your wallet as well  :lol

Centre stand can go.

If you remove the pillion pegs, don't throw them away.  You may require them at MOT time.  If a bike has a pillion seat, it must also have footpegs for the passenger.  :)

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Re: Less Pies for the Fazer Thou ?!
« Reply #6 on: 24 November 2011, 09:41:33 am »
Ta for replies, some good ideas there.
 
I love the streetfighter, that's something I've thought of doing (although I don't have the skill to do something as extreme as that one) but i wouldn't want to lose the front fairing alltogether.
 
I've already got a lightweight exhaust and HEL twin front brake lines. Next on the list is a lightweight exhaust hanger so I can remove the pillion pegs (they'll keep kept handy for MOT time - good point Mike), and maybe some lightweight rearsets (which will be a-bit-lower-and-rear-sets for me), and I'd like to try a lightweight bettery as I have another project that I'm going to use one on anyway. The AIS removal is on my list too, as apart from anything else it gets in the way during carb fettling.
 
Light weight wheels will indeed offer many benefits, not just reduced weight, but £2K is about 2/3rds the price of the bike !! Have any of tyou tried light-weight wheels ?
 
Thanks again, cheers, Fletch
 
 
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Re: Less Pies for the Fazer Thou ?!
« Reply #7 on: 24 November 2011, 02:44:11 pm »
ride naked,leathers are quite heavy :)

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« Reply #8 on: 24 November 2011, 03:07:53 pm »
Forget to mention - I already do ! Amazing how some days I get the road all to myself.........
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« Reply #9 on: 24 November 2011, 06:51:24 pm »
got MAGNESIUM  race wheels on me 6 the diferance if mental the front is 2 kg lighter that's with bigger disks & tyre than stock not weighed the rear yet but expect simuler saving best change the forks as well to get the most out of them
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Re: Less Pies for the Fazer Thou ?!
« Reply #10 on: 24 November 2011, 07:29:20 pm »
Have any of tyou tried light-weight wheels ?

Cable Tie has a set.  Very nice.

He says they make the bike a lot easier to wheel in and out of the shed and putting it on the centrestand for the weekly wash is a lot easier ...  :rollin :lol

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Re: Less Pies for the Fazer Thou ?!
« Reply #11 on: 24 November 2011, 09:20:47 pm »
Have any of tyou tried light-weight wheels ?


Cable Tie has a set.  Very nice.

He says they make the bike a lot easier to wheel in and out of the shed and putting it on the centrestand for the weekly wash is a lot easier ...  :rollin :lol
   YOU NO ME TOO WELL MIKE.  :rollin
 
These pvm race wheels are on my GEN-1 6'' rear 190 tyre! i brought these off ebay they had new pilot powers and wheels was as new and not used i paid £400  8)  BARGAIN .

 
These are the ultimate BST carbons off my bm that ive now sold and ive sold the wheels as well now for, they make a huge difference the rear is roughly 7-8lbs lighter than stock and the front about 5-6lbs

 
 
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« Reply #12 on: 24 November 2011, 10:10:19 pm »
Easy, don't fill the petrol tank.  ;)
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Re: Less Pies for the Fazer Thou ?!
« Reply #13 on: 25 November 2011, 08:56:24 am »
Blimey, those PVM's are gorgeous, at £400 a bloomin' bargain !!!
 
 
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Re: Less Pies for the Fazer Thou ?!
« Reply #14 on: 25 November 2011, 09:46:36 am »
Just a thought, but will R1 (4xv) wheels fit the Gen 1 Fazer thou ? Are there any other Yams (eg - R6's ?) who's wheels are identical to the Gen 1 ?
 
If so then this will broaden the search for lightweight replacements in that PVM's, etc from an R1 will also fit the Gen 1, etc, etc.
 
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Re: Less Pies for the Fazer Thou ?!
« Reply #15 on: 28 November 2011, 06:57:47 pm »
Eat less, exercise more.  That was the most effective way to get more performance from my mtb. TBH haven't tried too hard on the fazer as I like the way it performs. Have lost the ais and fitted a ti can and race pegs though.
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« Reply #16 on: 30 November 2011, 02:27:47 pm »
Blimey, those PVM's are gorgeous, at £400 a bloomin' bargain !!!


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Re: Less Pies for the Fazer Thou ?!
« Reply #17 on: 30 November 2011, 05:01:48 pm »
Just a thought, but will R1 (4xv) wheels fit the Gen 1 Fazer thou ? Are there any other Yams (eg - R6's ?) who's wheels are identical to the Gen 1 ?
 
If so then this will broaden the search for lightweight replacements in that PVM's, etc from an R1 will also fit the Gen 1, etc, etc.
 
Cheers,
 
Fletch

The early R1 front wheels are identical to the Fazer so if you can find lightweight R1 wheels from that era, one's a straight swap.

The rear rim is larger and the brake disc is different.  Also the caliper.  An R1 rear can be made to fit but you have to do more to make it happen.  Contact Devilsyam for more 'how to' on this ... he also does a kit to convert later model R1 wheels to Fazer use. :)

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Re: Less Pies for the Fazer Thou ?!
« Reply #18 on: 01 December 2011, 05:19:15 pm »


oh can't find any dynamags or PVM.. but will these do..?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/230708688324?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

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