analys of the crash any ideas?

[sadlonelygit]

this bloke seems to have his fair share of incidents on a bike doesn't he?
if you see 20 ton of lorry coming around the corner at you, move and horn.
on a bike, everyone is out to kill you. remember that and you might survive a bit longer.

[sadlonelygit]

If you watch the whole video on you tube you see that the girl is about 70 years old.  He probably couldn't tell that from the back though and though she might be a MILF  as she had a pushchair with her.

er........ she was indian/asian carrying a green shopping bag

The driver is taking the corner way too fast which forces him to run so wide that he virtually mounts the pavement on his off-side. He totally fails to make proper observation or look at what is in front of him.

have you ever driven a large vehicle around the streets of london? you can see from the video that the rider is in the blind spot the entire turn as you can't see the lorry driver. not denying it's poor obs from the driver as he should have seen the approaching bike, but the bike rider froze, which nearly killed him.

[Skippernick]

I watch this several times and could not make up my mind on it, but the previous comment has prompted a review and I think the lorry driver had not set up for the turn, he is very close to the kerb on the main road before turning, I would have expected a lorry driver to pull away from the curb as much as possible as it helps your lane position as you turn in to the side street.

Even still, regardless of who's at fault, if you sense physical danger in any situation, trying to talk your way out of it simply doesn't work, especially when talking to a lorry with a crash helmet on. 

I agree, hence him jumping ship eventually. I do wonder if he had beeped his horn whether the truck driver would of reacted due to the over use of horns in that environment.

[darrsi]

I watch this several times and could not make up my mind on it, but the previous comment has prompted a review and I think the lorry driver had not set up for the turn, he is very close to the kerb on the main road before turning, I would have expected a lorry driver to pull away from the curb as much as possible as it helps your lane position as you turn in to the side street.

Even still, regardless of who's at fault, if you sense physical danger in any situation, trying to talk your way out of it simply doesn't work, especially when talking to a lorry with a crash helmet on. 

I agree, hence him jumping ship eventually. I do wonder if he had beeped his horn whether the truck driver would of reacted due to the over use of horns in that environment.

All the more reason to get yourself a decent horn, especially in London or other very busy cities.
He would've certainly heard my air horn, which i would've been using on the right side of that lorry rather than in front of it. 

[Skippernick]

I watch this several times and could not make up my mind on it, but the previous comment has prompted a review and I think the lorry driver had not set up for the turn, he is very close to the kerb on the main road before turning, I would have expected a lorry driver to pull away from the curb as much as possible as it helps your lane position as you turn in to the side street.

Even still, regardless of who's at fault, if you sense physical danger in any situation, trying to talk your way out of it simply doesn't work, especially when talking to a lorry with a crash helmet on. 

I agree, hence him jumping ship eventually. I do wonder if he had beeped his horn whether the truck driver would of reacted due to the over use of horns in that environment.

All the more reason to get yourself a decent horn, especially in London or other very busy cities.
He would've certainly heard my air horn, which i would've been using on the right side of that lorry rather than in front of it. 

I've had mine a couple of months now and only used it 3 times. Mine is mounted with the mouth of the horn facing the inside of the faring, do you think this reduces its noise levels at all?

[darrsi]

I watch this several times and could not make up my mind on it, but the previous comment has prompted a review and I think the lorry driver had not set up for the turn, he is very close to the kerb on the main road before turning, I would have expected a lorry driver to pull away from the curb as much as possible as it helps your lane position as you turn in to the side street.

Even still, regardless of who's at fault, if you sense physical danger in any situation, trying to talk your way out of it simply doesn't work, especially when talking to a lorry with a crash helmet on. 

I agree, hence him jumping ship eventually. I do wonder if he had beeped his horn whether the truck driver would of reacted due to the over use of horns in that environment.

All the more reason to get yourself a decent horn, especially in London or other very busy cities.
He would've certainly heard my air horn, which i would've been using on the right side of that lorry rather than in front of it. 

I've had mine a couple of months now and only used it 3 times. Mine is mounted with the mouth of the horn facing the inside of the faring, do you think this reduces its noise levels at all?

I wouldn't have thought so, as long as the mouth isn't blocked in any way.
Mine faces downwards to prevent any water issues.

[Skippernick]

I watch this several times and could not make up my mind on it, but the previous comment has prompted a review and I think the lorry driver had not set up for the turn, he is very close to the kerb on the main road before turning, I would have expected a lorry driver to pull away from the curb as much as possible as it helps your lane position as you turn in to the side street.

Even still, regardless of who's at fault, if you sense physical danger in any situation, trying to talk your way out of it simply doesn't work, especially when talking to a lorry with a crash helmet on. 

I agree, hence him jumping ship eventually. I do wonder if he had beeped his horn whether the truck driver would of reacted due to the over use of horns in that environment.

All the more reason to get yourself a decent horn, especially in London or other very busy cities.
He would've certainly heard my air horn, which i would've been using on the right side of that lorry rather than in front of it. 

I've had mine a couple of months now and only used it 3 times. Mine is mounted with the mouth of the horn facing the inside of the faring, do you think this reduces its noise levels at all?

I wouldn't have thought so, as long as the mouth isn't blocked in any way.
Mine faces downwards to prevent any water issues.

fair enough, sounds quieter when out and about, but that may be earplugs and helmet muffling it.

[bri h]

The fact is we all know the risks of riding bikes so the biker should have been ready to get out of the way as soon as he saw the lorry. Who is to blame is up to the insurance companies and police to sort out. I say the police because the lorry driver didnt seen to show too much care or attention.

[YamFazFan]

If the driver can't take the turning without trashing a stationary motorbike that's stopped well back from the junction and is on the correct side of the road, then he shouldn't be driving IMHO. Lucky this incident wasn't A LOT more serious.

[fazersharp]

I did not see any crash, I saw a stationary motorbike get ran over by a truck.
I like to think that if it were me I would of moved out of the way

[darrsi]

I did not see any crash, I saw a stationary motorbike get ran over by a truck.
I like to think that if it were me I would of moved out of the way