I had originally hein gerckle stuff, never wear leathers, had them for about 3 yrs then had an accident, got them.all replaced under the claim and had them for about eight years, goretex still good, some small rubbing from the velcro fastenings bit considering age, they are still good, please take note though, they were used fairly constant for about 5yrs then I took a wee break from biking and only used them maybe once a year for a day, but considering also they've been in the loft for that time, they are a good set. My gloves are alpinestar goretex too and same goes for them, even the velcro on them are like new, would buy same kit again, even if it only lasted me the original 5yrs