Tyres

[packie]

I was told by my trusted supplier that the 2's were better.


Can't argue with him as he supplies most of the couriers in London

Well no offence, to me that is a hollow argument. All your supplier proves (unless he uses them himself) from the viewpoint of being a supplier is that it is a better seller to a specific group of rider (courier) where cost would be a critical factor. Better sales doesn't mean it is a better tyre as you supplier state.


I used all of the Pilots over a 10 year period and speak from a viewpoint of experience. The PR3 has better grip and a small bit more longitivity over the PR2, so it is a better tyre IMO as performance goes. The PR2 is selling like hot cakes to couriers because they are still a damn good tyre and have dropped in price due the introduction of the PR3. But as I said, sales (especially to a group of people were cost is paramount) doesn't equate that it is a better tyre.

[JZS 600]

It wasn't an argument, merely an recommendation from someone who fits tryes all day as his profession.
 
I use Bridgestone myself

[Jc72]

I use the recommended pressure and buy those caps that go red if you go under pressure

[packie]

merely an recommendation from someone who fits tryes all day as his profession.

 
I use Bridgestone myself

...yep...that's what I was questioning....that someone who fits them all day but who have no experience in riding with those tyres as to have a credible opinion about them. His profession or skill is fitting them, not riding with them.


Ok, he might get a feedback from customers, but in this case I seriously doubt it very much if he had many couriers in for PR3s who then reverted back to PR2s the next time because the PR2s were a better performing tyre. That was the statement your tyre guy made and the only way he could have made it. Better priced tyre maybe...but thats about it. Just a quick glance on this thread from guys who used both will tell you how wrong your tyre guy is.....even if he does do it for a living. Just another example for me to take care that I shouldn't swallow everything that "professionals" tell me without questioning it.


Cheers,
Packie

[Fazer Jake]

go for the pilots, dual compound best for touring.

[Dead Eye]

I had a set of BT023's on mine and they were pretty damn good in my opinion. BUT my opinion shouldn't be weighted as high as others since it was the only set of tyres I ever had on the bike. The previous set were horrifically worn out BT016's :P

[stevierst]

Just looked at my rear pr3 yesterday. Its Erm, a bit worn out and I've only had it on for just over 2k miles! It'll cost me £150 to replace it, so ill try am angel st on the back next.

[spoonlamp]

Just had a peek at my tyres and found a new front is required. Its currently a BT023 on the front but I have a metzeler on the rear, so I'll replace it with one of those. Loads left on the rear. Pity, means I'm all out of synch for getting all PR3s without wasting a lot of tread   

[dazza]

I use the recommended pressure and buy those caps that go red if you go under pressure

  Be careful using those, I had one pull my valve out at speed due to the extra weight and centrifugal force. Tyre went down very quickly as you can imagine. Probably down to old valves as well and repetative screwing on and off but doesn't install much confidence.

[stevierst]

Personally you can't beat a tyre pressure guage, I don't think I could trust those screw in ones that turn red.

[His Dudeness]

everyone should definitely have a pressure gauge and don't rely on petrol station gauges. they're often way off in my experience

[JZS 600]

Well I just "retired" (ha ha) the BT021 that's been on the back of my bike for the last 13,000 miles, it was on there when I bought the bike a year ago and it wasn't brand new then.


I've now got a slick, shiny BT023 on the back now. The bloke at the tyre shop told me to take it easy for the first 100 miles, I told him that the ice and snow on the roads at the moment slows me down a bit so no problems there!

[stevierst]

13000!!!!! I bet it was proper knackered! I hated the 021's, when they went 'off', they let you know about it big time!

[JZS 600]

It was "just" on the wear bars 

[stevierst]

Good effort! My rear was lucky to last 6-8,000 on the Fazer, a lot less on the R1!!

[Jc72]

13000 miles! You pushing it instead of riding it that's amazing mileage , well done

[JZS 600]

Funny enough the front wore out 4000 miles before the back. It also wore out in a funny shape.


Bear in mind that pressures were checked every weekend on it's weekly wash and check over.

[Jc72]

Wonder if you will get the same from the new one? Or was it a prototype that slipped through the net an ended on your bike


Or maybe I'm letting my imagination run away again

[JZS 600]

I'll tell you in six months time,,,,,