Date: 07-11-25  Time: 22:15 pm

Author Topic: Fzs600 suspect it has been lowered  (Read 4110 times)

Kenbob

  • Weekend Warrior
  • ***
  • Posts: 214
Fzs600 suspect it has been lowered
« on: 16 December 2016, 05:36:16 pm »
hi all.
I'm beginning to suspect that my 02 foxeye has been lowered.
I'm not particularly tall yet my feet are flat on the floor whilst sitting on the bike and also it's a real bugger to get it on its centre stand, my thou is so much easier to get on its centre stand.
Is there a way to tell if it has been lowered.

Fazerider

  • Naughty Corner
  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,214
Re: Fzs600 suspect it has been lowered
« Reply #1 on: 16 December 2016, 06:25:31 pm »
You could measure the eye centre to centre distance of the dogbones, I'm sure some kind soul on here will be able to tell you the length of the standard ones.
Is it the correct shock?
What has the preload been set to?

BBROWN1664

  • Administrator
  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 13,165
Re: Fzs600 suspect it has been lowered
« Reply #2 on: 16 December 2016, 06:44:21 pm »
the stand could be bent.
Lowering the seat through changing the dogbones doent make a huge difference to the height of the frame under the engine from the floor.

Once you get the bike on the mainstand, is the read wheel nicely clear of the floor or fairly close/touching the floor? If it is low, I would suspect a bent stand.

darrsi

  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 10,671
Re: Fzs600 suspect it has been lowered
« Reply #3 on: 17 December 2016, 07:39:28 am »



If memory serves me correctly, standard dogbones were 140mm from centre hole to centre hole.
Any lower than than that raises the bike, and higher lowers it.


"...not particularly tall..." doesn't really help for guidance, are you a tall dwarf, or a small giant?  ;)
If your bike's been lowered then i'd imagine the bike would barely lean on the sidestand, and would certainly be a nuisance to get on the centre stand, but as mentioned if your centre stand is twisted this will also make things difficult, and you won't really notice it's fooked until you remove it, which is a lot easier than you'd imagine, just wear some gloves and expect a load of chain grease.

Kenbob

  • Weekend Warrior
  • ***
  • Posts: 214
Re: Fzs600 suspect it has been lowered
« Reply #4 on: 17 December 2016, 08:44:55 am »
Yep it would be grease and oil city as I have my scottoiler dripping on the front sprocket.
I'm 5 ft 7 in my stockings.
Will check the dog bones for size.

darrsi

  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 10,671
Re: Fzs600 suspect it has been lowered
« Reply #5 on: 17 December 2016, 10:55:21 am »
The centre stands tend to start by having tiny rust holes appear, which then turn into larger rust holes that then weaken the joining bar allowing it to twist if used a lot.
This isn't obvious to the eye, but will noticeably be more difficult to use over time.
It's only when you replace it with a straight one that you'll realise how wrong it was, and also once removed you should clearly see if it's gone out of shape.
Having chain lube all over it isn't such a bad thing as it will protect it from the elements.
Dead easy to remove too, just loosen the bolts both sides then undo one side and the spring will suppress so it can be taken off, then do the same in reverse to get the spring back in place. 


If you are 5' 7" then i am surprised you can put both your feet flat on the floor though to be honest, so you may be right thinking it's either been lowered with longer dogbones, or maybe even your seat has been modded to make that lower.


fazersharp

  • Naughty Corner
  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 6,968
Re: Fzs600 suspect it has been lowered
« Reply #6 on: 17 December 2016, 12:16:51 pm »
I am 5'8 -- and a half ( in the morning after laying down all night ) and I can flat foot the ground too

darrsi

  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 10,671
Re: Fzs600 suspect it has been lowered
« Reply #7 on: 17 December 2016, 12:18:07 pm »
I am 5'8 -- and a half ( in the morning after laying down all night ) and I can flat foot the ground too


High heels don't count........

slappy

  • Naughty Corner
  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,797
Re: Fzs600 suspect it has been lowered
« Reply #8 on: 17 December 2016, 12:47:17 pm »

I'm 5 ft 7 in my stockings.



Stockings! High heels! What kind of forum is this becoming?

Bretty

  • Naughty Corner
  • WSB Pack Hound
  • *****
  • Posts: 753
Re: Fzs600 suspect it has been lowered
« Reply #9 on: 17 December 2016, 12:52:30 pm »
My bikes a behutch to get onto the centre stand and is standard height. Although I'm just  a 6"2 17stone fairy.

YamFazFan

  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,626
Re: Fzs600 suspect it has been lowered
« Reply #10 on: 17 December 2016, 05:27:58 pm »
I'm 5' 7" short and 11 stone in weight. My 2003 Foxeye is 100% factory standard.

I'm getting the bike out tomorrow, so will report back then on the feet flat down issue.

Will also take some measurements when not sitting on it.

One thing I can confirm right now is that it's not a problem to get it up on the centre stand.

darrsi

  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 10,671
Re: Fzs600 suspect it has been lowered
« Reply #11 on: 17 December 2016, 08:50:55 pm »
I'm 5' 7" short and 11 stone in weight. My 2003 Foxeye is 100% factory standard.

I'm getting the bike out tomorrow, so will report back then on the feet flat down issue.

Will also take some measurements when not sitting on it.

One thing I can confirm right now is that it's not a problem to get it up on the centre stand.


A stand in good condition is easy to use compared to a twisted one.
And if the dogbones have been changed you would have to lift the bike up higher than normal to get the stand to pivot, making things quite difficult.

YamFazFan

  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,626
Re: Fzs600 suspect it has been lowered
« Reply #12 on: 18 December 2016, 02:24:53 pm »
I'm 5' 7" short and 11 stone in weight. My 2003 Foxeye is 100% factory standard.

I'm getting the bike out tomorrow, so will report back then on the feet flat down issue.

Will also take some measurements when not sitting on it.

One thing I can confirm right now is that it's not a problem to get it up on the centre stand.


The results are in...

With the bike on the centre stand (not sitting on it), the distance between the underside of the rear tyre and the floor is 37mm (Bridgestone BT020).

Holding the bike upright (again not seated) the distance from the floor to the centre of the seat release key hole is 62.5 cm.

Sitting on the bike with both feet down and without unduly stretching, my heels don't quite touch the floor (lace-up safety boots).

darrsi

  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 10,671
Re: Fzs600 suspect it has been lowered
« Reply #13 on: 18 December 2016, 02:38:45 pm »
I'm 5' 7" short and 11 stone in weight. My 2003 Foxeye is 100% factory standard.

I'm getting the bike out tomorrow, so will report back then on the feet flat down issue.

Will also take some measurements when not sitting on it.

One thing I can confirm right now is that it's not a problem to get it up on the centre stand.


The results are in...

With the bike on the centre stand (not sitting on it), the distance between the underside of the rear tyre and the floor is 37mm (Bridgestone BT020).

Holding the bike upright (again not seated) the distance from the floor to the centre of the seat release key hole is 62.5 cm.

Sitting on the bike with both feet down and without unduly stretching, my heels don't quite touch the floor (lace-up safety boots).


I've not really thought about it but with another 5" in height and an extra 5 stone, plus a top box, my feet should flatten out quite easily.  :lol

devilsyam

  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 3,148
Re: Fzs600 suspect it has been lowered
« Reply #14 on: 18 December 2016, 07:27:03 pm »
my guess is lowered as with jack up the tyre is just touching the floor

i have bones that will give you this if you pm me ill give you a cost posted

improves the turn in too

tommyardin

  • Naughty Corner
  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,836
Re: Fzs600 suspect it has been lowered
« Reply #15 on: 18 December 2016, 08:04:21 pm »
Yep it would be grease and oil city as I have my scottoiler dripping on the front sprocket.
I'm 5 ft 7 in my stockings.
Will check the dog bones for size.


Yeah! I have heard about Ken :rolleyes

tommyardin

  • Naughty Corner
  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,836
Re: Fzs600 suspect it has been lowered
« Reply #16 on: 18 December 2016, 08:08:12 pm »
I am 5'8 -- and a half ( in the morning after laying down all night ) and I can flat foot the ground too


Me to, I'm bigger in the morning  :lol but that is something else, but to be honest not by much :'(

tommyardin

  • Naughty Corner
  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 2,836
Re: Fzs600 suspect it has been lowered
« Reply #17 on: 18 December 2016, 08:14:40 pm »
I am 5'8 -- and a half ( in the morning after laying down all night ) and I can flat foot the ground too


Yeah but Sharpies body and head is only 28 inches high but his inside leg is 40 inches.

Onevan

  • Cager in Training
  • Posts: 6
Re: Fzs600 suspect it has been lowered
« Reply #18 on: 18 December 2016, 08:28:16 pm »
Hi, I had the same issue with my 1999 fzs600. It turned out to be the forks had been dropped through the yokes by about 25mm. After lifting them through to correct position it raised the ride height and a breeze to get in to the centre stand. Worth a look as it costs nothing. 😃

Kenbob

  • Weekend Warrior
  • ***
  • Posts: 214
Re: Fzs600 suspect it has been lowered
« Reply #19 on: 19 December 2016, 03:40:43 pm »
Forks are at their correct position i.e. Flush with top yoke.
I actually quite like being flat footed on it in my stockings.
AT WEEKENDS!

Graham53

  • WSB Pack Hound
  • *****
  • Posts: 710
Re: Fzs600 suspect it has been lowered
« Reply #20 on: 19 December 2016, 04:27:32 pm »
Forks are at their correct position i.e. Flush with top yoke.
I actually quite like being flat footed on it in my stockings.
AT WEEKENDS!


That's what I like to see a man in touch with his feminine lingerie wearing side at weekends and not afraid to admit it  :rollin

mogster

  • CBT Wobbler
  • *
  • Posts: 35
Re: Fzs600 suspect it has been lowered
« Reply #21 on: 19 December 2016, 04:51:41 pm »
well im a 6-2' 19 stone fairy myself sometimes its hard ....stockings do help but also i think its a matter of chi with me ;)

fazersharp

  • Naughty Corner
  • GP Hero
  • ******
  • Posts: 6,968
Re: Fzs600 suspect it has been lowered
« Reply #22 on: 19 December 2016, 05:26:04 pm »
actually on the subject tights can be very good at keeping you warm in the winter under your leathers, never tried it as my legs never seem to get cold in the winter

Kenbob

  • Weekend Warrior
  • ***
  • Posts: 214
Re: Fzs600 suspect it has been lowered
« Reply #23 on: 19 December 2016, 07:18:56 pm »
Just figured it out.
My body is 1 ft and my inside leg is 4ft 7 inch.