manual camchain tensioner fitment guide

[VNA - BMW Wank]

always makes me smile luke,, its the peeps with no mechanical knowledge that i feel sorry for cos given the choice between this mod or a fancy set of grips they'd buy the grips lol.  they just don't understand that if one somewhere has failed it's a problem and if theirs fails it will cost them more than the bikes worth to pay for the repair.

And perhaps a little knowledge can be dangerous.  Or maybe some folks don't understand the difference between a little mechanical knowledge and engineering.

But I don't disagree with Luke, everyone can make up their own mind, and is free to share information and thoughts, preferably without trying to be a smart ass.

[PieEater]

I think I've made my decision. As there doesn't appear to be a way the manual tensioner can fail, even if the chances are a 1000 to 1 that the auto fails, it's still a chance. So there is a reason to go manual, and doesn't seem to be any reason not to. Good logic?

I'm pretty sure that's the exact same logic used by those of us who have fitted a manual tensioner. It's my understanding that because the spring is under constant but slightly varying pressures and is subject to regular heat cycles it is at risk of metal fatigue which is why some of them can give out, obviously a manual tensioner does not have this problem. Whilst automatic tensioner failure is not a common problem to me £35 and 10 minutes installation time is worthwhile to eliminate the possibility of it happening.

[Hedgetrimmer]

I think I've made my decision. As there doesn't appear to be a way the manual tensioner can fail, even if the chances are a 1000 to 1 that the auto fails, it's still a chance. So there is a reason to go manual, and doesn't seem to be any reason not to. Good logic?

I'm pretty sure that's the exact same logic used by those of us who have fitted a manual tensioner. It's my understanding that because the spring is under constant but slightly varying pressures and is subject to regular heat cycles it is at risk of metal fatigue which is why some of them can give out, obviously a manual tensioner does not have this problem. Whilst automatic tensioner failure is not a common problem to me £35 and 10 minutes installation time is worthwhile to eliminate the possibility of it happening.

Yes, I just wanted to be sure that the manual tensioner wouldn't introduce different problems before I decided. I'm satisfied on that point now 
ps does the old tensioner normally come off ok without damaging the gasket? Or should I get a new gasket first just in case?

[devilsyam]

No need for gasket comes with o ring machined into mating surface

[Hedgetrimmer]

Cheers Luke 

[dickturpin]

Wonder why this thread has gone quiet....are there no more problems reported?

[kitcrazy]

Ive got abit of a rattle anyone have a link to where i can buy a manual cct please

[PieEater]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Yamaha-fazer-fz-1-fzs-1000-2001-2005-manual-cam-chain-tensioner-adjuster-mcct-/252340915355

Are you sure the rattle isn't coming from the EXUP? 

[kitcrazy]

No it's not that seems to be the right side front but maybe it's just me.

[Hedgetrimmer]

I've solved the whole problem. I just stuff the bike into a hedge before the cct has a chance to fail    Never did get around to fitting it    Partly put off by a mechanic (a good one) who said that although a good idea, in his experience, folks have a tendency to over-tension the manual ones. Although I'm sure that's avoidable, I can imagine that being me 

[unfazed]

You should fit one Nick, then anytime it needs adjusting just dump it in a hedge 

[Hedgetrimmer]

You should fit one Nick, then anytime it needs adjusting just dump it in a hedge 

Pat, if you'd had an answer that I hadn't already just said, I might have had a reply for you 


Anyway, I'm investing in a suit of armour, cos it's stone walls up here 

[unfazed]

No, you misread what was written (must be from all the fresh air and water clouding your brain in Cumbria) once it was fitted and set up then rather than adjust it incorrectly when the chain started to rattle and you could just stuff it in a hedge  sorry Stone wall. You were going to stuff in the hedge before it failed 

For you information hedge is definitely the better of the two to stuff it into, yep, tried both when I was a young foolish tearaway, hedge is definitely softer

[Hedgetrimmer]

I haven't done any stone walls (yet; give it time  ), but have used a hedge on one previous occasion to cushion my landing after stuffing an RD350 into  the side of a van    Hedges are very soft