Author Topic: Bit of a weird one (Read 13843 times)

darrsi · « **Reply #50 on:** 17 June 2015, 09:20:39 pm »

Soooooo, what am I checking, the hoses from the airbox to see if they have any yellow snot clogging them up?

anutz · « **Reply #51 on:** 17 June 2015, 09:22:03 pm »

the one i initially posted a pic of - the one i put red dots on - the crank case breather

darrsi · « **Reply #52 on:** 17 June 2015, 09:52:49 pm »

https://www.YAMAHAmotorcyclespares.co.uk/genuineparts/9656/10/yamaha%20fzs%20600%20fazer/intake?uID=0

anutz · « **Reply #53 on:** 17 June 2015, 09:55:09 pm »

good find - exactly as mine is layed out

darrsi · « **Reply #54 on:** 17 June 2015, 09:56:37 pm »

24 is news to me, that MUST be clogged up?

anutz · « **Reply #55 on:** 17 June 2015, 10:04:02 pm »

never looked into mine, i know its inline from the T piece that connects the pipes from the air box, i think its for allowing the air box to drain if it gets moisture in it...

darrsi · « **Reply #56 on:** 17 June 2015, 10:41:37 pm »

Mine must be full of yellow shit, meaning not breathing properly.
I need to change it then balance carbs again I reckon.

anutz · « **Reply #57 on:** 17 June 2015, 10:48:20 pm »

the crank case breather or the T piece and the inline filter thing it has?

darrsi · « **Reply #58 on:** 17 June 2015, 11:38:31 pm »

That number 24 jobbie.

Jules-C · « **Reply #59 on:** 18 June 2015, 09:55:33 am »

Sorry for the confusion the airbox drain and engine breather pipes don't connect to each other. I was working from memory when I cleaned mine about 5 years ago and checked them both so had it in my mind they connected directly.

The 24 thing has a piece of sponge in it and this will be solid with oil gunge.

darrsi · « **Reply #60 on:** 18 June 2015, 10:25:28 am »

Quote from: Jules-C on 18 June 2015, 09:55:33 am

Sorry for the confusion the airbox drain and engine breather pipes don't connect to each other. I was working from memory when I cleaned mine about 5 years ago and checked them both so had it in my mind they connected directly.

The 24 thing has a piece of sponge in it and this will be solid with oil gunge.

Just ordered one.
If it's totally clogged up then I'd imagine the pipes are too with the yellow stuff.

anutz · « **Reply #61 on:** 18 June 2015, 11:05:16 am »

i best check all mine at some point as well.....then carb balance as well

Jules-C · « **Reply #62 on:** 18 June 2015, 12:29:37 pm »

Quote from: darrsi on 18 June 2015, 10:25:28 am

Just ordered one.
If it's totally clogged up then I'd imagine the pipes are too with the yellow stuff.

I just cleaned old one out, I thought it was just sludge in it that's when I found it had bit of coarse sponge in it. I thought about leaving it empty when put it back together to reduce chance of it blocking again but decided to push a bit of sponge in it in case it sucked unfiltered gritty air up into the air box. I know it wouldn't be much but doesn't take much to damage the cylinder bores

darrsi · « **Reply #63 on:** 18 June 2015, 12:42:41 pm »

Quote from: Jules-C on 18 June 2015, 12:29:37 pm

Quote from: darrsi on 18 June 2015, 10:25:28 am
Just ordered one.
If it's totally clogged up then I'd imagine the pipes are too with the yellow stuff.

I just cleaned old one out, I thought it was just sludge in it that's when I found it had bit of coarse sponge in it. I thought about leaving it empty when put it back together to reduce chance of it blocking again but decided to push a bit of sponge in it in case it sucked unfiltered gritty air up into the air box. I know it wouldn't be much but doesn't take much to damage the cylinder bores

Wasn't sure what is was about so just ordered it anyway.
£15 for a sponge. $:\$

anutz · « **Reply #64 on:** 18 June 2015, 12:43:45 pm »

OEM parts.....gold mines.....

darrsi · « **Reply #65 on:** 18 June 2015, 07:51:56 pm »

So i thought i'd have a quick inspection of the breather/drain pipes on the air box, and the first thing that sprang to mind was to gently blow into it to see if it was proper clogged up, but other than a very slight gurgle it was reasonably clear.
I couldn't get to the pipe towards the middle of the engine, as it was not only difficult but my engine was still hot, so i pulled it apart where the filter (number 24) joins the pipe attached to the t-piece.

A few drops of yellow goo dropped out, but nothing in comparison as to what i was expecting.
I let that drip for a while then used a few cotton buds to clean the inside of the pipe.

Then, i got a bucket of hot water and washing up liquid and rinsed the "filter" which is actually just a piece of plastic, so i've been totally mugged off ordering a new one.

Anyway it's all clean now so no harm done.

darrsi · « **Reply #66 on:** 20 June 2015, 01:13:16 pm »

Got a full refund from AJ Sutton for the so called filter (#24).

paulchucky · « **Reply #67 on:** 20 June 2015, 05:56:31 pm »

so has it cured the problem ??

darrsi · « **Reply #68 on:** 20 June 2015, 09:05:28 pm »

No.

But I still need to balance the carbs again, I'm sure I had a false reading due to the dirty air filter as the bike's starting popping again, that tends to go away when balanced properly.

darrsi · « **Reply #69 on:** 21 June 2015, 06:48:23 pm »

So i just got round to balancing the carbs again and sure enough they were not level, even though I did them a few weeks ago.

I presume the combination of blocked drainage/breather pipes with emulsified oil from the air box, and a dirty K&N air filter gave me a false reading, so by freeing the airways and doing them again has resulted in much smoother running, and I also managed to get them much more level than I ever have before.

Mind you I had fun and games for a while as I had kinked the fuel pipe when turning the tank around so the readings were a bit iffy, then it ran like a pig and conked out.

Taken it for a spin and it feels much better and it would appear that my shivering sounding problem has gone as well.