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Brettholmes89

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Chain links?
« on: 11 May 2015, 07:15:39 pm »
Hello

What she best way to count the links in the chain while it's still on the bike?

I was thinking paddock stand, a dot with a paint pen then rotate the back wheel and count.

Just wondered if anyone else had any better ideas?

Also what are the standard teeth for front and back sprocket and how many links in a stock chain?
1999 600 fzs


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Re: Chain links?
« Reply #1 on: 11 May 2015, 07:40:59 pm »
You could measure the length of e.g. 10 links and then make a dot always after that distance.
I think this might reduce the time compared to counting each single link.

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Re: Chain links?
« Reply #2 on: 11 May 2015, 08:48:30 pm »
FZS600  Front 15, Rear 48, chain 110 links.

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Re: Chain links?
« Reply #3 on: 11 May 2015, 09:04:10 pm »
Start at the master link and count from there until you get back it. Also good to do that if you're cleaning/lubing the chain because you know you've done all of it then.

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Re: Chain links?
« Reply #4 on: 12 May 2015, 08:18:47 am »
Cheers guys.
Going to change the sprockets and chain but just wanted to make sure I got the same as it is now

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Re: Chain links?
« Reply #5 on: 12 May 2015, 08:52:32 am »
You're gonna change the sprockets and chain but you're asking how to count?  :pokefun

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Re: Chain links?
« Reply #6 on: 12 May 2015, 04:38:06 pm »
Wasn't asking how to count. I was asking what the best way of counting the links whilst on the bike. I didn't put the last chain on so how am I meant to know?

All you seem to do is come on threads and have your say on everything.  No need to put me down for asking a bloody question.


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Re: Chain links?
« Reply #7 on: 12 May 2015, 06:13:53 pm »
Wasn't asking how to count. I was asking what the best way of counting the links whilst on the bike. I didn't put the last chain on so how am I meant to know?

All you seem to do is come on threads and have your say on everything.  No need to put me down for asking a bloody question.


I wasn't putting you down, it's just banter, i'm very sorry if you're the sensitive type and i've offended you, my apologies.


Not entirely sure why you are counting links in the first place, if you buy a chain that is specifically for an FZS 600 then it will come in the correct length with the right amount of links, they're not out to make things difficult for you.


The reason myself, and others, come on threads and have a say is because it's a forum, it's what it's all about! It's an exchange of knowledge, trying to be helpful, but with a little bit of piss taking and banter thrown in for good measure so as to keep it light hearted and mix it up a bit.  :thumbup

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Re: Chain links?
« Reply #8 on: 12 May 2015, 06:18:20 pm »
Well that's why I'm here. To gain knowledge, and I have gained some from this thread.
Current chain has 112 links. Limax said 110 is a standard/stock. Its so baggy and adjusted almost as far as it'll go. 48t sprocket on the rear and 15 on the front. Any ideas?
New chain and sprockets will be ordered tonight.


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Re: Chain links?
« Reply #9 on: 12 May 2015, 06:31:21 pm »
15/48 teeth is standard, and so is 110 links so i'm not sure why that would have 112 'cos it's the wrong length, unless someone has previously experimented with a bigger rear sprocket maybe?



DID X Ring is a tried and tested decent chain for these bikes and will last a long time if kept well maintained and lubed.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xfzs+600+did+x+ring.TRS0&_nkw=fzs+600+did+x+ring&_sacat=0

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Re: Chain links?
« Reply #10 on: 12 May 2015, 06:52:53 pm »
Not sure either. I'll get one ordered. Cheers.

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Re: Chain links?
« Reply #11 on: 12 May 2015, 07:14:25 pm »
Sounds like the chain has two extra links than it should have for the standard sprockets. That would explain the lack of  available adjustment left. With an unworn chain with two extra links you should still be able to get the right amount of chain slack of 40mm with the bike on the centre stand. You can check the chain wear by carefully measuring pin centres over 16 links, which should be 10 inches. If it is 1/16 " more the chain is shot at. Another easy check is to see if you can pull the chain away from half way round the back sprocket. There shouldn't be much movement there.
Plenty of posts on here about fitting new chain and front sprocket nut but if in doubt just ask. Just remember to undo the front sprocket nut before removing the old chain.

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Re: Chain links?
« Reply #12 on: 12 May 2015, 07:44:43 pm »
The chains definitely ready for changing. You can pull the chain from the back sprocket.
I've heard about upgrading the front sprocket nut as well? Is this a worth while thing?

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Re: Chain links?
« Reply #13 on: 12 May 2015, 08:03:02 pm »
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Is this a worth while thing?
Yes it is. Here in Germany the upgrade kit consiting of nut and washer costs less than the washer and the "bad" nut  :rollin

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Re: Chain links?
« Reply #14 on: 12 May 2015, 08:21:49 pm »
The fact you have 2 extra links might give you that extra bit of slack in comparison to a correct length chain so that might explain why you can pull it off the sprocket easier than normal.


If you're changing everything the 12mm upgraded nut is a must as quite a few other bikes have had problems in the past.

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Re: Chain links?
« Reply #15 on: 12 May 2015, 08:39:03 pm »
Yeah that's true.
What's the difference in the upgraded nut?

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Re: Chain links?
« Reply #16 on: 12 May 2015, 08:42:50 pm »

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Re: Chain links?
« Reply #17 on: 12 May 2015, 10:03:09 pm »
Wemoto currently sell the upgraded nut and lock-washer kit for £2.44 but there is a £3 postage charge, so if you need any other bits get them at the same time. http://www.wemoto.com/bikes/yamaha/fzs_600_fazer_sp/00/
The nut is in the "Transmission-Sprockets section" in the above web page.

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Re: Chain links?
« Reply #18 on: 12 May 2015, 10:54:09 pm »
Don't forget you will need a new gasket from Yamaha for the sprocket cover.