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FZS600 Fazer / Mk1/2 Fazer 600: Common tasks & mods
« on: 20 February 2021, 12:37:33 PM »
As there isn't an FAQ thread for the 600 I figured we should at least have a stickied post with links to some of of the commons tasks and mods.

  • Headlight bulb mod, both side on - link
  • Boxeye to Foxeye conversion - link
  • replace stock headers - link and link
  • replace stock headers - link
  • Info on fitting an A2 restrictor kit - link
Welcome suggestions for other thread to ad to the OP please.

Evening All

Do we have one who lives in Camden? if so can you you need to be aware of what Camden Council are currently trying to push through that will directly effect you and any motorcycle businesses in the area. Mag would appreciate as many signatures as possible on the following open letter (see below) and it would extremely helpful if any of those are from Camden residents -

Open letter to Camden council regarding the Parking Permit and Charges Review 2020We are writing as a concerned group of local businesses, residents and workers in Camden, about the proposed changes to motorcycle parking in Camden.

We are extremely concerned about the effects that these changes will have on motorcyclists who live and work in Camden.  Additionally we believe that the proposals will be detrimental to the economy and life of Camden. We believe these changes are not justified by evidence claimed, and will result in significant damage to the borough and motorcyclists.

We are asking that you meet with interested parties in order to find to an equitable solution for motorcyclists and Camden.
Our main concerns are as follows:

- Damage to the economy of Camden and the livelihoods of those who work in Camden:
The proposed daily and hourly charges for parking will damage the ability of riders to work or volunteer in Camden. This includes delivery riders and couriers, but also volunteer riders for groups such as the Blood Bikers or the Bike Shed Community Response, who are doing vital work during the pandemic. In addition, the proposed limit on daily passes to two years will make it impossible for those who commute into Camden by motorcycle to continue to do so after 2023. It’s a mistake to assume that in all cases walking or cycling and public transport offer a viable alternative. We believe that the net result will be people forced to give up their jobs, or work elsewhere. This will impact not only these individuals but the economy of Camden. 

- Increased crime:
Reducing access to solo motorcycle bays will mean less secure parking. The police have identified secure parking as a key way to reduce moped enabled crime. This therefore has the potential to increase motorcycle theft and undo the good work Camden has done in providing secure facilities. This is of serious concern, not just to motorcyclists in Camden, but to all those who live in, work in, or visit Camden. Stolen motorcycles are commonly used in ‘moped enabled crime’ which impacts every Camden resident and visitor.

- Lack of sufficient consultation:
The short consultation period in a period of unprecedented disruption is disappointing. Fewer people were attending workplaces in Camden during the consultation period than normal due to the pandemic.  Many of those potentially affected by these proposals will not have been aware of the consultation. Multiple offers to discuss the proposals have been made to the council by interested parties, all of which have been refused. We are extremely concerned that the changes will go ahead without reasonable engagement with those who it will affect the most. 

- The proposals are not proportionate:
The evidence presented in the consultation doesn’t support the changes. Charging motorcycles the same amount as cars is disproportionate.  It doesn’t take into account the amount of space motorcycles takes up, nor the lower levels of pollution they produce.

Motorcycling is a transport choice taken by a broad spectrum of individuals, including nurses, doctors, business owners, volunteers, couriers and delivery riders. Those who use motorcycles, due to the nature or length of their journey, often cannot reasonably use other means of transport. For many the economy of motorcycles is the only low cost option for their travel needs.

On a per km basis motorcycles produce significantly lower emissions of CO2 and key pollutants such as NOx, PM10 and PM2.5.  Motorcycles also do not contribute to congestion. Not all trips can be replaced by walking cycling and public transport.  For those that can't, motorcycles present the best alternative to cars for those concerned about air quality. Instead of seeking to unfairly punish motorcyclists, Camden should follow the example of other councils such as Cambridgeshire in recognizing the role of motorcycles as a means to meet their air quality and climate change aims.

We, the undersigned, would ask that you reconsider these proposals.  We believe that they will have a devastating effect on motorcyclists, and those who rely on the value motorcyclists bring to Camden.

FZS600 Fazer / MOVED: Winter & pandemic non usage:
« on: 15 January 2021, 05:17:35 PM »

So doing the obligatory clean on the spare set of calipers for my bandit, while typical brake cleaner is fine for cleaning the discs, pistons and calipers internals - its hopeless at cleaning all the caked on brake dust/road grime on the caliper body. I have always thought, there must be a spray/brush liquid solution that will dissolve the caked on brake dust and road grime, so we don't need to be getting out the wire brush and pick for the seal grooves.

After a bit of research for the outside at least, what we need is a solution/fluid that will react with the iron in the brake dust. Examples I have seen on youtube are for cleaning the brake dust of wheels, but I think it should do the same job on calipers aswell. The idea is you spray it on and leave it to soak for a few minutes, after which time it changes color (usual pink or purple). Then you simply rinse it off with water and for more stubborn instances, agitating with an toothbrush rinse and repeat if as required.

Id like to hear back from any of your guys that have found a product that works well for you? What I have been looking for so far is car wheel cleaner and iron remove like  -
  • WonderWheels Colour change (acid free) wheel cleaner - amazon

Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / FZ1 and FZS wheel bearings & Seals:
« on: 04 January 2021, 09:23:17 PM »
So as I needed some wheels bearing for the FZ1 I thought I would check if any of the spare bearings I still have for my FZS would fit, and some of them do -
Front wheel: (FZS part numbers same)
  • 2x bearing (ball)- 93306-00420
  • 2x seal - 93106-28043
Sprocket carrier: (FZS part numbers same)
  • 1x bearing (ball)- 93306-20531
  • 1x seal - 93106-40013
Rear Wheel (FZ1):
  • 1x R/H bearing (ball) - 93306-20531 - bearing number 62-28-2-RS
  • 1x R/H seal - 93106-40013 - seal number 40-58-7
  • 1x L/H bearing (roller) - 93317-33590 -  bearing number 35-20-2-RS
Rear Wheel (FZS):
  • 1x R/H bearing (ball) - FZS - 93306-07806 - bearing number 62-28-2-RS (so same as FZ1)
  • 1x R/H seal - 93106-35042 - seal number 35-52-8
  • 1x L/H bearing (roller) - 93317-43580 - bearing number  35-20-2 RS (so same as FZ1)
So the only part that different between both bikes is the R/H (exhaust side) seal, so this means the R/H wheel spacer has different ID/OD between the two bike's.

I personally prefer to source all my bearings/seals from Marksman Industrial, as you can put in the Yamaha (or Suzuki, Honda etc) and it will find your bearing/seal for you. They also have 'bearing kits' for both bikes, which can save you a chunk of change compared to going oem or even wemoto - 

General / Petrol tank prop
« on: 26 December 2020, 10:30:57 PM »
So i was in a shop a while back and I saw the mechanic has a tank prop made out of what looked like a pneumatic car hood prop (see below) and I wonder if there was a shorted one for motorcycles..? Or Will have I have to make one out of a small gas strut & some rubber feet..?


On the hunt for more parts for my 2007 FZ1 -

  • chain and sprocket kit
  • complete rear wheel bearing set.

For Sale & Wanted / SORTED: FZ1 wishbone's & dogbone linkage
« on: 21 December 2020, 04:50:53 PM »
So I just got made aware that I have a non-standard rear suspension wishbones and dogbone on my recently purchased FZ1. So I am on the hunt for a stock items if anyone has them?

This is the part I am referring too -
  • part 21 & 22

So how many FZ1 owners on here, have or have had PR4's on their FZ1..?

I'm asking as the new bike has them and on the way home at 70-80 I was noticing a slight wibble. I have yet to check the pressures that were put in by the bike shop, but I can only imagine to high if anything.  At low speed the bike is rock solid and below 70 I don't notice the wibble at all, I don't believe and it doesn't feel like the wheel is out of balance.

Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Gen1/2 Fazer 1000: Common maintenance & tasks
« on: 11 December 2020, 07:52:05 PM »
As we have a few thread for common tasks that get repeated threads, I figured it would make sense to create a sticky with links to all of these threads. I will update this OP as I go, so welcome suggested threads to be added to this sticky.

  • General techniques: Cleaning brake pistons - link
  • Fork overhaul procedure - link
  • FZ6/8/1, FZS(6/1) - Blue Spot caliper service - link
  • LED bulbs for the headlight - link
  • Exup Valve - link - depending on per-year mileage, this should be done every 3 months or twice a year.
  • Wheel Bearing & Seals - link
  • Mirror mod, FZS mirrors on FZ1 - link
  • Spongy brakes on ABS gen2 - link
  • Replacing ignition keys - link
  • Changing the handlebars - link
  • Engine warning light on & fault code 34 - link
  • Generator rotor rebuild - link - but its safer to just replace the rotor - link
  • Generator rotor bearing/s replacement - link
  • Wheel Bearing & Seals - link
  • TFT Dash project - link

General / down..?
« on: 05 December 2020, 02:56:53 PM »
Can anyone else connect to  ?

Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / FZ1: Mirror Mod - FZS mirrors on FZ1
« on: 05 December 2020, 02:51:00 PM »

So I am buying a 2007 FZ1, and one of the issues that needs to be fixed is both mirrors need replacing. So before the bike shop replaces them with stock mirrors, can I ask has anyone fitted different or other Fazer mirrors to the existing mounting points..? Im asking because FZ1 like the Z1000SX have mirrors that don't move all that easily. I commute in/out of London so need mirrors that pull in & push out as easy as the ones on my FZS1000 did.


So 2 options I'm looking at are -
  • Adjust the tension on the base on the FZ1 mirrors so they fold back easier.
  • Or cut the bottoms of a set of FZS and FZ1 mirrors and weld the FZS base/s onto the FZ1 mirrors. Allowing to them mount the FZS mirrors on the FZ1.

Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Low mileags but sad FZS1000
« on: 27 October 2020, 08:33:25 PM »
So this popped on autotrader -

For the mileage/price I thought it must be mint, but no just another trader taking the piss -
  • The rear grab handles are missing.
  • The wheels are dirty and have dings, marks and scratches.
  • All front & rear left foot pegs, swing arm, link pipe (which is rusty) and fairing infill's have all been stained by some cleaner.
  • The handlebars are damaged, bars ends aren't stock and the brake lever has a worn end.
  • The headlight bulbs have tinted bulbs that will fail an mot.
  • The rear wheel looks like it has a rub mark from the rear brake house? or is that a reflection.
  • The wind screen has a big scratches right across it.
  • The drive chain looks like its rusty? and the rear axel nut has damage/corrosion.
  • It has clearly its been dropped on the right hand side, the dent in the tank, the front fairing has been repainted (decals are missing). That also means the sub-frame, the right hand infill, the headlight mount points may have been tweaked/broken. And worse the bike could be a Cat-D.

General / Who on here has a CB1300?
« on: 16 October 2020, 10:15:38 PM »
Spoke to someone here a few months ago about a Honda CB1300, but cant remember who it was...

General / MOVED: Whiney noise
« on: 14 October 2020, 10:13:53 PM »

General / Question: Test ride a bike before you buy it?
« on: 03 October 2020, 05:43:11 PM »
So just came back from looking at a 2013, FZ1, 14k for sale by a one man dealer 10 mins from me. But today despite offering to put down full purchase price down as a deposit while I test rode the bike, the guy wasn't interested. My offer was above and beyond the £1k that some dealers charge, so I'm guessing this guy just wasn't setup correctly insurance wise? As in, I Have multi bike policy which allows me to ride  other bikes. I also had the pleasure of his father giving me the benefit of his uninformed armchair opinion, to which I had to respectfully counter several times.
  • So my question is, how many of you would buy a bike without test riding it first?
  • And was I being too reasonable offering a full purchase price as a deposit?

General / Utter twat award goes to: Jordan Bikes Leeds.
« on: 29 September 2020, 08:57:08 PM »
Just spotted this on ebay -

So par for the course that a stealer is trying to palm off a 2012 as a 2013, but its so far over the book price for the a 2012 w/21k that its in a different time zone.

But that's not the best bit, look carefully at the side shots of the frame..... the main engine mounting bolt/s are missing from both sides...
 I was going to post this in thats got my goat thread, but this one is extra special so I figured it deserved its own post.

[edit - changed subject title)

Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Calling all Gen2 owners: 2nd gear issue/s
« on: 15 September 2020, 07:04:30 PM »
Gnasher and I have already chatted at length about this, but I am curious to hear if any other Gen2 owners have have the same issue I am seeing or any other 2nd gear related issues. So here is the history on this -

  • If I change gears gently, roughly a 1/3 of the time it will go into the neutral instead of 2nd
  • If I make a conscious effort to firmly engage 2nd gear, I can feel the foot lever notch twice (so into neutral and then into second)
  • If I give it some welly away from the lights, so far I have found it goes into second no problem (I assume because I am being far less gentle with the foot lever).

  • Gear lever rubber – This is in good condition, with little to no wear
  • Gear lever linkage - There is no slack in the gear lever, it is correctly adjusted for my foot/boot.
  • Clutch lever stack -  It appeared to be correctly adjusted and the span adjustment set for my hand size.
  • Rear drive chain  - It is correctly adjusted.
  • Dirt/Old engine oil - The bike has had a recent oil and filter change.

  • Today I moved the lever down one spline on the the gear change shaft, so that its over adjusted and a little bit too low to deliberately give me more upward movement. I also checked and re-adjusted the clutch lever so it was giving me atleast 3mm on full left/right lock. Then spent a few hours riding around.
  • What I found was it 'mostly' removed the 'going into neutral instead of second'. It did not remove the 'knotch' that I was getting every few gear changes. But then on the way home doing 20mph behind a car, I snicked from 1st into second and sure enough, went into fucking neutral, and it was going so well.

So in addition to my other owners request above, What R1 did the engine for the FZ1 come from? so I can check if owner of that year etc have had issue with 2nd gear etc.

Front page / Yamaha Motorcycles UK: contact number change
« on: 14 September 2020, 04:57:12 PM »
For anyone that is interested Yamaha UK have remove the Surrey number (01932 3580000) from the website. Its now showing an 0203 027 5116 number, and you just get through to the Netherlands where you are not speaking to a technical person.

General / Voulunteering as a Blood biker?
« on: 25 August 2020, 10:35:55 AM »
So flicking through a few of AnyManCam videos, I cam across one where he did a ride out with his step dad who is a Blood Bike rider.

I immediately thought Ive been stuck at home for last few months,  partly due to Covid-19 and being between work contracts and I could potentially do this to help out but there is one obstacle to overcome. And that is that even though I have been riding for 20yrs I would need an Advanced riding qualification, eg IAM Green Badge, RoSPA Advanced, DVSA Enhanced Rider or Police Class 1, any of which must have been RENEWED within last 3 years. 

Does anyone on here do this and if so which of the above course's was the most cost effective?

I am looking to course to buy a FZ1 that possibly used to belong to someone of this forum (which is very cool, as my FZS was bought from and then sold to a forum member). The bike originally had a Akro full system and a PowerCommander5, but these got removed before being sold to the current owner. I would like to talk to the previous owner and find out what other bits were fitted and what work was done on the bike when they had it.

Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / FZ1 headers: replaceable coller/clamps..?
« on: 08 August 2020, 11:56:44 AM »
So I am looking at replacement headers on ebay and came across this set, that appears to have removeable collars/clamps -

I checked Fowlers and these don't look removable, so my question is where would we go and buy these from..?

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