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FZS600 Fazer / Paddock Stands...
« on: 29 April 2015, 07:36:02 am »
Just a bit of info, I ordered one of these as they look good....

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/400908897249

I shall let people know if it works ok - I tried to do some work with the bike jacked up and putting the wheel back in on my own with no paddock stand was almost impossible

I like this one as it seems it will not get in the way of any removal of the axel or sensors etc..


877
FZS600 Fazer / Re: Changing Sprocket Nut....any special steps
« on: 29 April 2015, 07:34:10 am »
Silly follow up question.....it has got me stumped....how do I remove the clutch cable?

I have removed throttle and choke cables and re-assembled, I don't see how to get the nipple out of its housing...I hope its called a nipple..

 :)

878
FZS600 Fazer / Re: Changing Chain and Sprockets
« on: 29 April 2015, 07:31:55 am »
Also  if you see the socket I got - its a "deeper" one as opposed to shallow, allowed the breaker to be used at a better angle than the shallow sockets which would see other bits of the bike get in the way....



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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Changing Chain and Sprockets
« on: 28 April 2015, 10:24:06 pm »
I am changing mine right now....my thread shows the breaker and socket i used - i also plus gassed it daily for a while but yours might come off easier - mine had never been done...


http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,16751.0.html


Also make sure you are not in gear, do not want to bugger the transmission, i put it in neutral and got someone to hold the back brake on so the chain is holding the sprocket and stopping it rotating...






880
FZS600 Fazer / Re: Refitting the timing chain...
« on: 27 April 2015, 01:52:44 pm »
Good luck!

Remember mark it first - I used Tipex

 :lol

881
FZS600 Fazer / Re: Changing Sprocket Nut....any special steps
« on: 27 April 2015, 12:21:12 pm »
Thanks fazer#


Shall have a read, i have wrenches etc...


Just debating if i need loc tite....




882
FZS600 Fazer / Re: Downpipe removal....Snapped things....
« on: 27 April 2015, 11:49:52 am »
I might just leave the all loose and let is scare the neighbours....

shall bit the bullet later tonight or tomorrow depends on time - but it will be a 1/2 a turn on each nut and plenty of patience....I do NOT want a repeat performance...it almost killed  me

I did learn a lot  :lol

883
FZS600 Fazer / Re: Changing Sprocket Nut....any special steps
« on: 27 April 2015, 07:52:14 am »
Thanks all, I think I will use some LocT and torque to 80Nm initially...

Is there any special way to secure the lock washer or do you just complete the bend that is started on 2 sides?

884
FZS600 Fazer / Re: Refitting the timing chain...
« on: 26 April 2015, 09:00:56 pm »
regards the cams being out - maybe they just settled for it as it was, I don't know if it would be a mod....but durations of open/close will affect running..

As many said on my pictures I was a sprocket out, it took a long time to figure out how to take up the slack with a sprocket and small clockwise turn - have done it 2 times now as I had to do valve clearances...

If its working fine then you may be best to leave it - but if you a like me then you might not be able to resist

Put some marks on it now so u can see which chain link matches with which sprocket tooth

I did not do that and it has taken me ages - but the 2nd time was quicker as they gave me a good guide to where I needed to be

885
FZS600 Fazer / Re: Refitting the timing chain...
« on: 26 April 2015, 08:56:37 pm »
Here is the video of it!


886
FZS600 Fazer / Re: Downpipe removal....Snapped things....
« on: 26 April 2015, 08:52:50 pm »
Video...


887
FZS600 Fazer / Re: Refitting the timing chain...
« on: 26 April 2015, 08:23:52 pm »
Its done!

It runs nice - I think - just loading a video now!

Have not done the sprocket etc but the engine works

Whooooo!

Have not tightened down the downpipes yet or the link pipe so a little crackle some times

But its past the first test, radiator warmed up as well so no issue with air locks, and no leaks


888
FZS600 Fazer / Re: Downpipe removal....Snapped things....
« on: 26 April 2015, 08:06:26 pm »
OK its alive!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Just turned it over and sounds lovely - well i think it does...


Putting a video up now!


Still need to clamp down the exhausts and the downpipes but its running!


Wohooo!

889
FZS600 Fazer / Re: Refitting the timing chain...
« on: 26 April 2015, 02:36:12 pm »
yep - I have a carb sync tool - it was one of the first things I did a few weeks after getting it....at least now I have no question in my mind where the correct screws are....and im not scared of the bike and un-doing things any more lol

Have the carbs on now - used a bar as a lever on the back of the airbox, with some WD40 around the seals - popped in nicely

I did actually leave the jubilee clips in different angles to where they were - easier access to the hex bolts if I need it again in the future....


890
FZS600 Fazer / Any need to "prime"...
« on: 26 April 2015, 01:59:38 pm »
Another thread from me...

Reason - is there any need to "prime" any systems after what I have done i.e. cylinder head has been off and cooling and oil systems have been drained and removed where applicable, fuel filter etc off and being re-fitted

I have heard and read of some people having air locks in oil systems and destroying engines etc...

I am sure on the old site, I read about someone who did just the above, left the bike ticking and came back, it had seized, air lock in the oil system...

Anutz

891
FZS600 Fazer / Re: Refitting the timing chain...
« on: 26 April 2015, 01:56:59 pm »
Hi red98...

Clearances were appalling....

Some were 0.06 an others were 0.35...

Reason being that the whole cylinder head was turned upside down by someone who shall remain nameless!!!

So it was a random put back together and then measure and adjust as needed

Ended up changing 9 shims, had a box of about 30 so was fine...and could re-use some that I took out

One or 2 were on the limit i.e 29 and 19 etc... but I am ok with that for now - once it turns over and runs I can always go back to it and adjust

Throttle cables are in and going to try fitting the carbs again now...




892
FZS600 Fazer / Re: Refitting the timing chain...
« on: 26 April 2015, 01:04:45 pm »
Well engines back together anyway and just battling like crazy with the carbs - saw your article on engine change and finding something to lever them in with!

893
FZS600 Fazer / Changing Sprocket Nut....any special steps
« on: 26 April 2015, 12:13:40 pm »
Hi All,

So I have now got my engine back together, i.e. cylinder head on...and am working on the rest of the bike

I am changing the sprocket nut, I soaked it in Plusgas for the past week whilst I have been working on the cams, and with a 600mm breaker and a 32mm socket it came off with little effort

I made sure to have the transmission in neutral and someone applying the back brake

Is there any special process or is it just a case of lock tab on, screw and torque new nut then bend the tabs over fully?

I am using part numbers

90215-21290
90179-18006

The 12mm nut and lock tab

I have read parts of the Bulletin to dealers and it did mention to measure the thread depth?







894
FZS600 Fazer / Re: Refitting the timing chain...
« on: 26 April 2015, 07:42:01 am »
what if I throw up all over the bike?!

 :rollin

895
FZS600 Fazer / Re: Refitting the timing chain...
« on: 25 April 2015, 11:05:18 pm »

not yet  :b


But i think i will be there by this time next week!


Fair bit still to do but not nearly 1/2 a tricky or time consuming


last tricky thing is the sprocket nut change i plan to do tommorow then the rest is just putting it all back where it belongs...










896
FZS600 Fazer / Re: Refitting the timing chain...
« on: 25 April 2015, 10:22:50 pm »
Ok so have done the clearances.....


And managed to get the chain and cams spot on again..


Here is what i did


Found TDC


Held Exhaust Side of Timing chain taught ( not silly but firmly )


Located Exhaust Cam and varied the sprocket mating position to chain until there was as good alignment as possible with the caps ( was not 100% )


Located Intake Cam and aligned as best as possible


Secured Caps with Bolts, ensuring to be aware of tightening on to Opened Valves before Closed and following a criss cross pattern


Used a Socket on the Flywheel to turn it clockwise a little whilst making sure chain does not jump off the Exhaust Sprocket, this took up any slack in between the sprockets


Installed the tensioner taking up slack in the intake side of the chain


Installed the top side chain guide/guard ( required 4 center bolts losening but no issues there )

Took opportunity to check the Cylinder Head Bolt torque before i put cams in as well as i have put the head back on


I have done this twice now and its worked fine each time - past week i have been using all sorts of methods and too focused on lining them up perfect not taking into account the effect of the slack and the effect of cranking clockwise slightly to take it up and move it to the Intake side for the tensioner to deal with...


Any observations fine, but it worked for me!


Thanks for previous posters input as well it all alluded to the fact it was not as simply as line them up and tighten down


 :)



897
FZS600 Fazer / Re: Refitting the timing chain...
« on: 25 April 2015, 03:46:14 pm »
thanks red98 - measuring clearances now....

Unfazed - yep, its good now, until that penny dropped I was fighting a losing battle - but I got there!

Before I start taking anything apart again I am going to Tipex the sprocket and chain for future reference...

Unless anyone has any alternatives...


898
FZS600 Fazer / Re: Refitting the timing chain...
« on: 25 April 2015, 12:38:03 pm »
Progress - bang on with correct tension now  :) 


Has been cranked through many revolutions with a socket and no movement of the timing marks


Onward with the rest of the rebuild...measuring clearances....this is going to be fun  :(



899
FZS600 Fazer / Re: Refitting the timing chain...
« on: 24 April 2015, 08:15:23 am »
that's another thing I was thinking - when I torqued it down it was ALWAYS off, so as you say, line it up OFF and then when torqued it should line up - might take a few goes!

900
FZS600 Fazer / Re: Refitting the timing chain...
« on: 24 April 2015, 07:26:17 am »
was it just trial and error or was the are process you could use to sort it - do you think the idea about the sprockets would work?

It always was a rattily engine to be honest, even @18000 miles always had rattles

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