I think that Counter steering gets explained wrong which confuses people, this pushing bars thing is wrong, the bars are somewhere to rest you hands,
and stop them flapping about in the wind 

I always understood countersteering as something you did in a car, when you flick the steering wheel the wrong way to kick the arse out to start what they call drifting now.

To me what they call countersteering on bikes these days, is counter weighing, steering the bike with your waist and hips, the bars aren't pushed left or right.
 One goes down giving the impression of being pushed because your elbow straightens and the other comes up giving the impression of being pulled because that elbow bends more.
I've followed a couple of people recently, I don't know if they are new bikers or fairweathers that haven't been out for a while, but you can see the stiffness in there bodies.
That tight neck raised shoulders. rod like back no flexablity in the body. if that did a bit of Weaving like GP racers do to warm their tyres up it would help them to loosen up the body and and get the feel for the bikes abilities again.

Please,,,,, he asks, I posted on 11th and no reply till 29th, I remember the days when you used to get some prompt service in here    .


Ah the good old days, I do miss them,


How's tricks Farjp

Quote from: Razgruff on 17 April 2013, 11:21:34 pm

Edward 1 v Margaret Thatcher

Who did most for Wales

Discuss 

Just passed this on to my daughter who is in the final year of a medieval studies degree and she said at least Edward 1st gave us Edward the 2nd

 

I must say though that the standard of some of the responses is pretty disappointing really. To compare Maggie to Stalin/Hitler etc, that is just knob behaviour.

No comparison was made
You missed the point by a mile 

that comment was in reply to a comment that the dead should automatically be granted respect for the mere fact they are dead.

Respect in death, is gained from your behaviour and actions in life, much as the respect you receive in life

Edward 1 v Margaret Thatcher

Who did most for Wales

Discuss 

nice clean tyres and love the way the cleaner has polished the floor around it

Until they said that the Kennedy Library was a fire and not related to the explosions, My money was on American right wing nut jobs.

Thought the same myself Naked when I saw it on the news, I'm not a poof ball fan but will be shouting for Wigan on the day 

I'm really struggling with this just accept it and move on argument.

Where would women be if they just accepted that they get paid lees for doing the same job as men?
Where would women be if they just accepted that they didn't have the vote?
Where would the common man be if they just accepted that they didn't have the vote?
Where would the Tolpuddle Martyrs be if they just accept their lot?
Where would we be if the Parlimentarians just accepted that the King had the devine right to rule how he pleased?
Were would we be if the Barons just accepted their lot and we didn't have Magna Charter?
Where would we be if King Alfred accepted defeat and didn't come out of the marshes and introduce common Law?

There was an interesting interview with ex Welsh Miners on Telly about 5 years after the pits were closed.

When asked about the retaining they got, when it was finally offered to them.

One miner replied

"yea the retaining was fantastic, I went from being an unemployed miner to an unemployed HGV driver"

Peterjca just buy the Judy Garland version from Amazon or Itunes and it will be counted in the charts 

♬ iTunes:

http://bit.ly/dingdongitunes

♬ Amazon:
http://bit.ly/dingdongamazon


play

http://www.play.com/Music/MP3-Download-Track/4-/12969485/0/Ding-Dong-The-Witch-Is-Dead/ListingDetails.html?aid=12968913&searchstring=judy+garland+ding&searchsource=0&searchtype=allproducts&urlrefer=search

I've just come back as me 

Thought I might as well now I got a Fazer I was Sunny Intervals on this new board when it started

did you ever read my post TC underinvestment results in

 British Leyland similar. Poor quality expensive and badly designed when compared to the emerging European and Japanese cars. Failed to innovate and couldn't compete with cheaper and better made cars from abroad.