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Hmmm, I'm not so sure. I wonder what kind of situations those studies were carried out in? If there were only a few cars around, I might be more inclined to believe it, but when there are millions of the things everywhere, I think they might have less effect. Same with hi-viz. It has to have something to stand out against. If everyone is wearing it, surely that effect is reduced?

  Let’s remove lights from all road vehicles and see what happens.
 
One key thing of daylight running lights is that nobody can drive off at night without any lights whatsoever.

Wear one of these. 

Now there’s a thing that pisses me off.  All the folks who call themselves Engineers but are nothing of the sort.

A friend of mine told me about the plight of a poor African kid with severe disabilities who has to ride a completely dilapidated bike with only one pedal 6 miles each morning just to fetch water.
On his way home he falls off all the time because of the heavy load.
Anyway, I feel good because I sent my friend £5 and he sent me the video.


It was fucking hilarious.

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I warned YamFazFan about waking VNA up from his hibernation! This is what happens when you do , he infests the forum like a virus and once started does not know when to shutup. Just like every pub has a pub bore he is the forum bore.


Please moderators can you make it a ruling that all political / religious debate is in separate threads and titled as such so that the subject is clear instead of them hijacking other threads.


Like most people I use this forum for motorcycle related subjects coupled with a bit a banter, and I have had enough of being preached at by political zealots.

  Slappy, you won’t find a political thread started by VNA. 



I agree with you it’s a bike forum, but I’m not minded to tolerate populist right wing political propaganda or bull shite, bigoted nonsense or racist crap.  And Christ almighty do we hear the bigots squeal when their views are challenged.