So Thatcher meant Thatcherism Blair meant Blairisim and now.......Mayhem?

Good one Bri 

So May is about to become Prime Minister, Hammond is being touted as the next Chancellor............... Surely the next Home Secretary can't be...........?.................Can he ??

Clarkson?? 

Now on a serious note can you guess who is the new foreign secretary leading the Brexit negotiations?

Can't stop laughing 

Even seasoned US diplomats can't stop laughing about it:



I mean we are talking about this guy...again? ;D ;D ;D

Quote from: Val on 12 July 2016, 09:32:28 am

Next challenge your bike and old gas holder (gasometer) like this one

I do believe that we have had that one
And it was you that did it http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,15766.msg220047.html#msg220047

Yes but this was last year 2015 challenges, can we have the same for 2016?

Here we go Chertsey old water pump on my way to work 

Hello and welcome 

Not sure why limit your choice to boxeye only? You can find decent mileage Fazer FZS 600 (boxeye or foxeye) for about £1000 plus minus 200.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/Yamaha/9809/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=fzs%20600&LH_Complete=1&rt=nc&_trksid=p2045573.m1684

Both boxeye and foxeye does not have any major faults. The only thing you may need to check is the front sprocket nut - Yamaha has replacement just in case, actual faults have been very rare.

How about you juts grind off the bolts heads? Than get 2 new bolts and nuts.

I do have tried MT 10 today too:





Obviously it will not win beauty contest. Having said that my wife likes it 

Position is way, I mean way way way forward. You can get used to it. I am 6 foot and there is plenty of room. The pegs are very comfty with more than enough leg room. In fact more leg room than the Fazer.

The gears are better than all BMWs. Does not have quickshifter. Actually MT10 do gears better without quickshifter than the BMWs with quickshifter. Enough said. The best engine so far.

On paper S1000R and MT10 are almost identical as power 160hp and weight fuelled 210kg. For some reason MT10 feels much lighter bike. Probably because of the forward position. It feels and rides as one very powerful supermoto. The engine also feels with more power. It may have more low torque I have no idea but the engine of the MT10 is the best.

As in BMWs I have to say I have not used the 6th too much. Yamaha is doing 95mph in second gear and three digits in 3rd. And when in B mode this bike is insane. I don't do wheelies if I can. In B mode you are practically riding most of the time on one wheel.

The most useful for public streets is standard mode STD.

Like S1000R the Yamaha moves with the speed of your thoughts without been intimidating and you are always in control.

The throttle is perfect and the power is delivered in a smooth and predictable way. I mean in STD mode.

MT10 feels sharper than S1000R. And you can ride it faster easier. Again surpisingly for me on the motorway without fairing it does better speeds than the Fazer with less wind. Or at least that is how I feel it. I mean there is wind, but because the bike has better engine and more power, somehow motorway speeds are easier.

You can change direction any time in the bend left or right and it just goes there. Again my abilities are way off what that bike can do.

Brakes are much more than you will ever need. Always smooth and progressive if you need it.

Suspension is the best. It is firm. Bear in mind this is a sport bike disquised as a supermoto.
Firm suspension is what you need with that power delivery.

Now the bad: the seat. I mean the Yamaha MT10 seat is seriously bad (hard). Like a brick of wood.

Note about the seat. It actually fits the overall bike. It is hard but that is good, because with this bike and this strong brakes and this firm suspension, and this powerful engine, and the speeds you can do with, actually you need this hard seat to be always in control and not slide around because of various g forces.

The truth is MT10 is a hardcore sport bike that needs to be ridden hard and needs this seat.

I have been two hours on it and now my bumm is sore and hurts. But I am still smiling  :


Final rating:

1. Handling & steering - MT10, S1000R, XR, Fazer, RS
2. Engine and power delivery - MT10, S1000R, XR, Fazer, RS - note obviously the RS has more power than the Fazer I just do not like the engine for my riding.
3. Seat and position - Fazer, seat XR, 1000R, position 1000R beats XR for me, RS, last one is MT10 now.
4. Look - draw for all from the front look, side look - 1000R, XR, RS, Fazer, MT10 - again no surprise here MT 10 is eriously ugly bike from any point. And daiglo wheels? I rest my case.
5. Sound - S1000R, MT10, Fazer, RS, XR - note I am not a fan of low rumbling Harley style sound. For you it may be the RS. S1000R has really nice sound in high revs. MT10 in STD mode sound is good, switch to B mode and its get ugly you get the impression nuts and bolts will be flying any moment.
6. Fun factor - MT10 is the winner hands down. Than follow closely S1000R, XR, RS, RR and finally the good old Fazer.

The final conclusion - I am still keeping the Fazer. Still fast enough when needed and does 50 mpg and comfty.

If you want a bike for long touring you need the XR.

If you need fun and track days get MT10.

I am temped by S1000RR as short commuter/fun bike too.

MT10 in some tourer faired version with better seat is probably the bike I will like the most. The only problem is Yamaha is not doing it yet...

Maybe? I was more thinking what's his point? He seems to be attacking the leave camp with all these smart-arsed gifs and cryptic comments, but giving no explanations for his point of view, just pure vitriol as far as I can see. It's like he thinks the whole Brexit thing was purely aimed at upsetting him alone. Why not just come out and state his meaning? How does any of what he's been posting offer anything constructive to the debate? "It's time to think and contemplate"    When you've quite finished looking down your nose at everyone Val...Tiresome.

Sorry if I have upset somebody with posting few FUN facts 

Short of writing a book about it my point of view is Brexit is the biggest foccup of all times.

Sorry that I can't help here, but honestly after the monumental foccup I really do not see how I can help. Been constructive will not undo it.

Its like lets crash in this wall and than complaining that I am not helping, I would if I could but I can't 

Update: Just test rode S1000R today too. We have a winner. It is the bike I like the most from all BMWs so far. The bike I rode was S1000R Sport with all extras except cruise control.

Position is way forward. You can get used to it.

The gears are better than XR. Because the engine has good pull you can ride it basically in any gear. I have to say I have not used the 6th too much again as in XR. Honestly 3rd is all you ever need to stay legal. Like XR the S1000R moves with the speed of your thoughts without been intimidating and you are always in control. I have used TC on, ABS on, The last Dynamic Pro settings for the engine and Dynamic settings for the suspension.

S1000R is sharper than XR. And you can ride it faster easier. Surpisingly for me on the motorway without fairing it does better speeds than the Fazer with less wind. Or at least that is how I feel it. I mean there is wind, but because the bike has better engine somehow it is easier.

IMO S1000R feels sharper than S1000RR too. I know it shouldn't be, but it feels that way to me. If you order them it will be RS is like a boat compared to others, than Fazer is sharper, the XR is very sharp, the RR is better and finally the S1000R is like knife in a butter. You can change direction any time in the bend left or right and it just goes there. My abilities are way off what that bike can do . Just happy


The only think I do not like too much is the seat. It is nice seat for one or two hour rides. But it is very thin. getting back to the Fazer was like sitting in a sofa.

Final rating:

1. Handling steering - 1000R, XR, Fazer, RS
2. Engine and power delivery - 1000R, XR, Fazer, RS - note obviously the RS has more power than the Fazer I just do not like the engine for my riding.
3. Seat and position - Fazer, seat XR, 1000R, posution 1000R beats Xr for me, last one is still the RS.
4. Look - draw for all from the front look, side look - 1000R, XR, RS, Fazer - no surprise here good old Fazer looks ugly sidewise.
5. Sound - 1000R, Fazer, RS, XR - note I am not a fan of low rumbling Harley style sound. For you it may be the RS. 1000R has really nice sound in high revs.

The final conclusion I may get one S1000R, but will still keep the Fazer for short touring and winter hack/commute. If you want a bike for long touring you need the XR.

Still I have not find complete Fazer replacement - I mean bike that can do kind of sporty rides, but also to be able to touring and to do bad weather/commute. I mean if I have to have only one bike I will keep the Fazer for now.

Or seat upgrade for the S1000R and a new screen may do the trick?





The main thing which I like towards BMWs is the IL4 engine. I know most people like BMWs for the famous boxer twin. For some reason it is not my cup of tea. Too much torque and less fun. Of course it depends  on your definition of fun. Mine is high revving IL4

I have high hopes on the new MT10 in some faired version like Tracer 1000? We'll wait and see.

Cracking game tonight, well done Wales, go and stick it to the Portugese

 

Englishman, Scotsman, Welshman and Irishman walk into a pub. Then immediately they all get out, because the Englishman wants to exit.

England are definitely going out of EUROpe! 

No offence guys but I need to post this one