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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Cam chain noise.. again?
« on: 27 July 2014, 09:04:24 pm »
Yet again your reply was useful as ever.
Ordered this and started ordering full service kit, k and n, braided lines etc lol.

Might as well do it all.

Chain was much cheaper than I'd imagined.

Any recommendations on a well priced chain splitter / riviter?

May as well do the job with the right tool as it'll be the first one I've done.

I'm an electrician so this stuff though I can do it, doesn't happen often!

Thanks

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Cam Chain Tensioner Reset/Replacement?
« on: 27 July 2014, 08:01:06 pm »
Can't see that being a problem. They can't go anywhere.

Surely you can get any ball bearings from anything if you can match the one you have up?

They look similarly sized to the ones in the clutch rod housing too though that's a guess as I don't have one to hand, I can't find my spare.

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General / Re: place online to buy service parts.
« on: 27 July 2014, 07:57:43 pm »
Suits me, 4 it is :)

Thanks

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General / Re: place online to buy service parts.
« on: 27 July 2014, 07:36:42 pm »
Also is dot4 the best bet for brake fluid, or is 5.1 a good shout? As I'm fitting braided lines at the same time and all that?

Cheers

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General / Re: place online to buy service parts.
« on: 27 July 2014, 07:28:21 pm »
Ideal, suits me. Think I used silkolene last time. About 1k ago lol.
As for coolant, a bottle of ready mixed coolant do the trick, does it have to be bike stuff or will the car stuff do, so I can share with my water burning clio? Lol (orange stuff obviously)

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Cam chain noise.. again?
« on: 27 July 2014, 07:04:06 pm »
And assumably the way to measure the new and old chain is to count the links and use the same amount on the new one as the old?

Sorry for what may seem silly questions just want everything correct :)

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Cam chain noise.. again?
« on: 27 July 2014, 06:55:03 pm »
How would you split the new chain? They're usually pressed over ends on there pins aren't they?

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Cam chain noise.. again?
« on: 27 July 2014, 06:52:29 pm »
Sounds brilliant, I'll get on the website now. Might even order up :)

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Cam chain noise.. again?
« on: 27 July 2014, 06:13:31 pm »
That is madness.

I don't want the split engine job so what you're saying is I can do it with the engine in situ and in a day?


Perhaps I'll do the job myself then. How would I attach the old chain to the new? And assumably it's a case of turn the engine over and pull it on through?

Is there a terrible amount of space to work on and join the chain and how does the link actually Work?

Don't suppose you've a link to your chain?

Perhaps I'll order one and get sorted towards the end of summer.

I'll probably never do 20k on the bike let alone 40k.

Thanks chaps, disappointing outcome but not as drastic as I thought

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: raising forks
« on: 27 July 2014, 05:47:40 pm »
Seems logical I guess.

Perhaps something I'll look into soon

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FZS600 Fazer / Cam Chain Tensioner Reset/Replacement?
« on: 27 July 2014, 05:43:27 pm »
There's Ball bearing, 2 springs, then another ball bearing afaik - Had mine out twice this weekend already LOL


Britney???  :rollin

The best one, wasn't on my iPad so couldnt upload my own LOL

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Cam chain noise.. again?
« on: 27 July 2014, 05:42:33 pm »
That way sounds far more cost effective, the bikes only done 28k, seems silly To rebuild.

Any of you guys want the job, if local enough of course? Lol

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General / Re: Anyone in the Wiltshire area?
« on: 27 July 2014, 05:36:09 pm »
Thanks for the replies guys.

Looks like in actual fact its a damn Cam chain I'm needing.

Anyone got any experiences with any of these guys?
Looks like I'm looking for the job to be done, I could take the engine out if required, though don't really want to...

Thanks

p.s (I'm based in Warminster / Trowbridge areas, but again can travel and leave the bike if required)

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Cam chain noise.. again?
« on: 27 July 2014, 05:30:02 pm »
Done the tensioner again, to be sure. That seems the case.
Ive pushed it in with something to ensure its tight but not too tight etc..

Had a feeling chain would be the outcome.

Whats going to be the best solution for this? Obviously a new chain, but any advice on this?

Assumably an engine out job?

Will riding it as it is do any major damage for the time being? as there's still adjustament on there, is it going to get worse?

ie can I use for the summer and take off the road end of summer, remove the engine and so on, or is my summer prematurely over?

Cheers

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Cam Chain Tensioner Reset/Replacement?
« on: 27 July 2014, 04:17:15 pm »
There's Ball bearing, 2 springs, then another ball bearing afaik - Had mine out twice this weekend already LOL

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Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner / Re: raising forks
« on: 27 July 2014, 04:05:51 pm »
What are the reasons for doing this?

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Cam chain noise.. again?
« on: 27 July 2014, 03:27:34 pm »
Also, Downpipes are stainless, all seem good and don't seem to see any signs of blowing at the head end.

The noise did get very noticeable very quickly, went from sounding like a normal fazer to a toolbox of spanners virtually overnight if that helps

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Cam chain noise.. again?
« on: 27 July 2014, 03:26:22 pm »
Do you mean there is only 2 notches left to take up the slack on the chain or 2 notches from the front of the tensioner where it pushes against the guide or 2 notches left in these in the tensioner? 2 from the guide side is good 2 notches from the back is bad.

There is a some stretch on the chain as the dots are behind the cam cap marks.

Rotate the rotor counter clockwise until the marks line up again and check it the marks stay the same and do this about 4 more times and see if there are any changes in the line up. if there is any change the chain has tight spots which may be the cause of the slight rattle you say you have.

With the cams in this position you should be able to slide the feeler guage in between the cam lobe and bucket over the valve on the 4 valves on the 1st cylinder . See example in page 3-6 on of the manual

Rotate the rotor counter clockwise 180degrees and you should be able to check the clearance of the no 2 cylinder

Another 180 and check the no 4 cylinder and a further 180 check the no 3 cylinder

Valve clearance (cold)

Intake valve
0.11  0.20 mm Ideally the 0.11 should slide in nicely and the 0.20 should not slide in. If .20 slides in easily there is to much clearance

Exhaust valve
0.21  0.30 mm Ideally the 0.21 should slide in nicely and the 0.30 should not slide in. If .30 slides in easily there is to much clearance


What you are doing is really ruling out causes of the noise.

I presume you check the downpipes for small holes which can give really funny sounds

Couldn't find much in the manual unless im being poor.

When I take the tensioner out, I can pull it out to full lengths by 2 more clicks. it isn't fully extended, but in another 2 clicks it will be.

I've rotated it several times counter clockwise, and the dors stay exactly the same as they are in the pics, no different at all, if anything I've lined the T up a touch better and they've all been pretty much bang on.

The results I got are:

Cylinder 1 Inlet 0.15mm for both
Cylinder 1 Exhaust 0.23 for both (0.20 was easy and 0.25 needed a little more friction though not mega tight.

Cylinder 2 Inlet 0.13mm Both
Exhaust 0.25mm Both

Cylinder 3 Inlet 0.15mm was about right
Cylinder 3 Exhaust 0.25mm Both

Cylinder 4 Inlet 0.15-0.18 for Both
On the exhaust side, the valve closer to cylinder 3 was 0.25 but the valve closest to me was more like 0.23.

Are these reasonable, I'm trying to compare with your results now

Thanks

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Cam chain noise.. again?
« on: 27 July 2014, 02:54:01 pm »
Makes sense I think. Not too tight but not so loose they flap about I guess.

I'll measure them now as the rockers off, looks fiddly.

What are spec measurements?

Thanks

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Diagnose my starter problem please
« on: 27 July 2014, 02:38:58 pm »
Would it not be best test these things when its cold, ie before you've tried starting it on the button at all?

There's more chance then, that the results you get are 'true'.

If you've tried once or twice on the button before testing, the chances are that the third time, the testing time, has sorted the issue again and the readings are false?
Has been mentioned before but nobody actively mentioned trying it from cold before trying it on the button if that makes any sense...

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Cam chain noise.. again?
« on: 27 July 2014, 02:12:54 pm »
Also, while this is off, how do I check valve clearances?
Is this further stripping or not too bad from here?

I have some feeler gauges its just knowing what to actually do.
Apologies for 10 replies in a row, just want this bike working, im terrified it'll break while riding and throw me into a bus or something, Being a relatively new rider, I doubt id to handle any failures..

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Cam chain noise.. again?
« on: 27 July 2014, 02:06:17 pm »
This correct? T mark with the crank case join at the front of the bike and the 2 dots on the cams with the mark?

Look a tiny amount out but trivial to me?

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Cam chain noise.. again?
« on: 27 July 2014, 01:31:26 pm »
Warmed up and the noise is as bad or worse.

Not sure what exactly to do. Suppose I'll let it cool and think about checking these valve clearances while the bikes semi apart..

Doesn't sound like that kinda noise Imo.

It's rather irritating none the less

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Cam chain noise.. again?
« on: 27 July 2014, 01:23:28 pm »
Not gone thus far yet.
Just advanced the tensioner one click manually.

There was 3 clicks  left and now there's 2.

Started up and still noisy from cold so it's warming up now to see if that helps.

If there's still clicks on the tensioner am i right in thinking that's good news for the chain?

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General / Re: Coolant hoses between carbs
« on: 27 July 2014, 10:49:06 am »
Ideal.

Silicone hose is cheap online so thinking I'll measure it and order some super fast blue hose.

Yamaha charge 34 and 18 quid for the 2 I need!

Cheers

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