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K&N air filters are alright, but don't expect a night'n'day difference. Good you can clean and re-use, but do factor additional time each service to clean it, dry it and re-oil it K&N recommend leaving it to dry naturally, fine on a summers' day, but hassle otherwise and delays putting the bike back together.

Castrol Power1 oil is my fav. Think I read on here gear changes are a bit smoother with it. Dunno, seems ok and I've stuck with it. Opie Oils often have discounts on it.

Avoid the K&N oil filters mind. The handy nut on end is overrated and there's been some dodgy batches that have failed giving you a nice oil slick feature to keep you and your mates behind you on their toes whilst your bikes seizes... Mate had one on this Speed Triple fail half way across Alps! was lucky, spotted it early and free wheeled down!

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Plastic welding needed
« on: 11 October 2017, 11:07:42 pm »
I've followed this chap's plastic welding plan in the past:


Pretty straight forward, soldering iron, staples and cable tie job. Certainly functional, but not aesthetically pleasing. Fine for an out of sight mounting lug mind. However, if you have the piece of fairing handy, or its just a crack, you may be able to use this technique to seal the piece together from inside and leave only a fine hair line on show. Either way, probably a better plan than glueing.

Depending on how much you want to throw at the project, do note a brand new fairing can be had fully painted from Yamaha or Fowlers for £200 ish.

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Been about 25-30K since last swapped chain (and yes, front sprocket nut swapped then too). Not got too much slack in it, but it's developed a couple of stiff links and has a spot of surface corrosion. I keep cleaning and lubing it, but they keep sticking and I'm feeling a duff-duff-duff-duff as I got down road. Especially when I'm on the throttle, and seemingly changing frequency with change of speed. Since having this, I've changed rear wheel (disc bolts were seized!), new rear bearing and tyre - so can rule them out. Front end feels alright, nowt obvious wrong there, so fairly sure it's the chain. It does seem to ease off when I really lube the chain up.


So reckon it's probably time for new chain.  Got a DID VX on there now, debating whether to go same again or splurge a bit more on a Extreme ZVM-X (extra £40 ish) Worth it? Anyone tried one? Last much longer? Or just not worth it on a nice smooth inline four like the Fazer?






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General / Re: Am I being thick?
« on: 03 September 2017, 11:15:37 pm »
Only used them when I had a massive shard of glass in my tyre and the little rubber strands I carry were to thin/small to use. The RAC chap came out with what you had and plugged my tyre. However, are they actually a permanent fix? I was under impression to permanently fix a tyre you need to use a big mushroom type thing from the inside. As surely anything you push in from outside could potentially pop out too? (but do correct me if I'm wrong here, I'm no expert).

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For Sale & Wanted / Re: Wanted - Rear Brake Caliper for Fazer FZS600 2002
« on: 01 September 2017, 11:12:52 pm »
Get yourself a caliper off a FZS1000. Much better and more robust than stock one. Will fit standard FZS600 mounting bracket (don't use the FZS100 bracket), with a little bit of grinding down. There's only a tiny bit in the way, 5 mins with dremal or 15 min hand file will sort it. Expect to pay around £60.


Why did the bolt holes need re-boring? Was it seized to bracket?

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Engine Bars
« on: 26 August 2017, 10:09:04 pm »
Yamaha did a couple of different engine bar variants for the FZS600. Pretty both are genuine and are for FZS600, just different styles. I think both came in black of chrome variations too.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Engine Bars
« on: 25 August 2017, 07:36:26 pm »
I've some the same as Fazersharp, they're one of the genuine Yamaha models. I can attest they work, have saved my engine several times after binning the bike. They usually bend up a bit and/or get dented. Rubber mallet can sort them out from a minor off, but still fairly sacrificial from a bigger off. Rather replace one of these, then half the engine and not be able to ride home... On the track I can usually get within about 0.5 cm of tyre limit (Metzeler Z8's) have yet to grind them. Have ground pegs before these mind.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Screen bolt size?
« on: 19 August 2017, 09:54:13 pm »
Yep, definitely deja vu!

But I still don't know for sure what size I bought last bloody time!

Yep, I can get genuine ones from Fowlers/AJ Sutton, but at £1.40 each - pah! I'm sure I bought a bag of dozen generics for around £2 off ebay last time.

Yeah, maybe I should get some fancy coloured ones. The cheap plastic ones did fade pretty bad TBH.

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FZS600 Fazer / Screen bolt size?
« on: 18 August 2017, 10:18:45 am »
Anyone know off hand what size the standard screen bolts are?


Not in front of bike, and need to order some new ones. Have ordered some generic black nylon bolts in past, but can't find a record of what I ordered! Would rather stick with plastic bolts, as in a previous crash the bolts gave way saving the screen.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: No one said anything about the neck ache!
« on: 17 August 2017, 10:52:35 pm »
What screen do you have? Standard or a double bubble one? And how tall are you?

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For Sale & Wanted / Re: FZS front end parts needed!
« on: 17 August 2017, 10:48:22 pm »
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/yamaha-fazer-fzs600-1998-2003-front-sub-frame-fairing-stay-bracket-/272753861623?hash=item3f8165a3f7:g:V-oAAOSw0TxZYLBx

Hope this helps matey?


That's an old box eye one, no good to me I'm afraid, not same as later Foxeye ones.

I've picked up isn't the best, and not 100% straight. What do still need, is some of the self tapping screws to bolt headlights to fairing and lights to fairing bracket. Part no. 90164-05001 and 9016705077.

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For Sale & Wanted / FZS600 / Thundercat rear wheel - free!
« on: 12 August 2017, 03:15:28 pm »
Got a FZS600 / Thundercat rear wheel free to good home. Good nick, no dents, just a little paint wear from security chain use. Only caveat is, it's got my old brake disc stuck to it with a bunch of rounded bolt heads. Two came out ok, but four rounded. One I tried to drill out, but gave up before I got too close to threads in wheel. If anyone wants to come a pick it up and thinks they can make use of it, you're more than welcome to.

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For Sale & Wanted / Re: FZS front end parts needed!
« on: 12 August 2017, 03:10:46 pm »
Stuff from breakers turned up:

Bits nearest camera.

Clocks in good nick, got 46K on them - just a spot less than mine. Also confirmed fuel gauge no responding is indeed my old bashed clocks.
Head light missing one lug as expected, but has a scratch on right hand lens. Spent morning plastic welding on lug from my old lights to it.
Bracket was a bit ben, twisted and much rust TBH, needed some time with my rubber mallet to get it back in line. Was hoping for better, but I've got it vaguely straight again and have now Hammerite'd it, so it will suffice. Also got a spare headlight wiring loom in deal too.

Either way, by no means perfect but was a reasonable deal at £140 and will suffice to get me back on road.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: front mudguard woes
« on: 11 August 2017, 09:14:04 am »
May or may not help, but I never used screws to hold on my fender extender, seemed a shame to go drilling holes in decent body work. I used a load of PU adhesive and some big clamps on it whilst it set. No problems with it coming loose over the last few years, even after binning it a few times!

Maybe I got lucky on my Fazer with my bolts though, didn't have any hassle with them coming off. Though one on Mary's CBF was seized and needed drilling out.

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For Sale & Wanted / Re: FZS front end parts needed!
« on: 11 August 2017, 12:07:45 am »
Yeah, quite aware of rareness, not the first time I've had to replace this lot...   :rolleyes

Spotted fairing bracket in Lithuania, but quite clearly bent... Couple in Germany, but more money than new from Fowlers (£160)!
Never seen the side brackets on ebay, but at least these are only a tenner new.
Light clusters are tricky as foreign ones will have wrong light patten and will dazzle all to the right. Plus all those in US and in EU have some damage with lugs missing. Did consider trying to crack one open to swap reflectors from mine, but lot of hassle. Did see some Chinese knock offs for £100, but they seem to be missing the side lights... Otherwise it's £250 from Fowlers.
There are a couple of DPBMC fairings on ebay, but all damaged. Been offered one for free with only some light damage.
Are clocks for FZS1000 compatible with the FZS600? Look similar enough...

As it happens, I found a breaker on ebay who has done me clocks, front bracket and light cluster for £140. Cluster just missing one lug, so took a punt and will try to repair. Will report back once stuff turns up in day or two. Also bit bullet and ordered (another) new fairing from Fowlers. :-) On back order, so figured I'd order sooner rather than later. And bonus for the day, was my local garage happened to find some FZS600 infills in his local skip, so just gave them to me!




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For Sale & Wanted / FZS front end parts needed!
« on: 09 August 2017, 04:06:49 pm »
Need to patch up my FZS 600 (2003 Foxeye), anyone have any of the following:-


Front fairing bracket / stay (preferable not bent!): 5RT-28356-00
Right hand side small fairing bracket: 5RT-2836E-00
Headlight cluster (FZS600 '02-'03 or FZS1000 '01-'05 - same part number), but needs to be UK spec/light pattern: 5LV-84310-10
Foxeye fairing, in one piece, in Deep purplish blue metallic colour: 5RT-2835G-00-P0
Clocks. To swap rear and fuel gauge glass from, any age '98-'03.




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Fazerider:
Yep, seen the fibreglass copies, did buy one a couple of years ago after my last off... Didn't use in the end, as it was more economical to buy a genuine one fully painted for £200, as I was quote £100+ to get one sprayed to match.
Decent fairing brackets and lights for the Foxeye aren't so easy to come buy second hand.

mtread:
Cool. That's definitely an option to help get me back on the road. I'll be in touch.

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Screwed up my poor Fazer again. Doing a track day over in Folembray, France and balls it all up on the last session pushing it too hard and ran out of skills. Video of action here:





Too wide on one bend, kissed the grass and threw me all out of shape for next chicane. Was on grass when I should have been doing me braking, chap overtook my inside and going spot fast, whole combination just messed me up, bottled it and decided to just run off. But was going too fast to keep it up right on grass. Doh! Bike went down, I just went sliding and came to rest sat on my ass - thankfully no injuries.


Straightened forks, bodged front back together with duct tape and cable ties and rode bike home (though Autoroute at 80-90mph was hard work with no fairing or screen!). Fairing shattered into loads of pieces. Fairing bracket super bent and about to snap now we pushed it back. Light cluster in one piece but lost many mounting lugs. Clocks took a bash, fuel gauge no longer works. Mirrors and screen intact. Small scuff to tank and can. Crash bars protected engine, and Renthal look straight still.


Now I've a dilemma as what to do next, do I:
  • Patch it up: combination of new fairing, bracket, possibly lights, clocks, plus whatever 2nd hand parts I can find. Reckon about £700-800.
  • Street fighter it, big single light on front, faff about trying to mount clocks to yoke etc. Prob about £200-300 odd plus time and faff (I don't have fabrication skills or tools).
  • Stick it on ebay and hope to get £400-500 spares and repairs, plus sell off choice bits separately. Then get another bike.
Bike is getting on a bit (2003 Foxeye), 52k on clock, definitely wasn't pristine and I need to replace it regardless by 2019 due to ULEZ in London (commute to centre daily). Bike has been serviced well, just put new rear disc and pads all round, Hagon shock, Hel lines etc. Even patched up with new parts I think I'd be lucky to get £1.5k for it. Insurance is due start of Sept, might be a good time to get new bike. Could scrape together a couple of grand and see what I can pick up (FZ6, Fazer8, FZ1, CBF600, CBF1000 or something along those lines)


What would you do?


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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Clutch slip
« on: 08 August 2017, 11:09:40 am »
Keep rotating the pressure plate and slotting it on. In all but one position it'll jut out by about 5mm. But in one position it'll be nice a flush with plates.

Measure your springs. I had loads of clutch slip with new genuine springs, steel plates and EBC friction plates, new cable and everything. Compared to my old original springs, the new genuine ones were about 0.5-1mm shorter. Reverting back to the old original springs pretty much eradicated my clutch slip (except occasionally when really pushing hard in 3rd when clutch still cool).

I also tried EBC heavy springs. They were longer still and really stiff, and caused opposite problem of loads of drag, and impossible to keep bike stationary when hot! Seems there's a tight tolerance required to get a decent clutch action and it's really bad that brand new genuine springs don't meet it!


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FZS600 Fazer / Re: Rear caliper required
« on: 03 August 2017, 09:29:31 pm »
FZS1000 rear caliper is a fairly straight forward swap. Just needs a tiny bit of mount filing away, not much, can be done by hand and very obvious to see what once you attach the caliper with one bolt and try to swing it into place. Definitely a preferable option, better quality caliper, bit stronger, but more robust and less prone to seizing.
Just need FZS1000 caliper and pads. Stick with FZS600 mounting bracket. Optionally pop on a Thunderace tension bar if you don't like the stock black FZS600 one. Consider picking up a Hel braided brake line for £20-30 (plenty of discount codes floating about), whilst you're there and bleeding stuff.

Some snaps here from when I fitted mine.
http://www.beginnerbiker.com/2014/06/fitted-fazer-1000-blue-spot-rear-brake-calipers/
But have a search on here, others have put up better pics in various threads on here.

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General / Re: Tape to fix fairings
« on: 01 August 2017, 10:30:20 pm »
Errr, is there no genuine fairing left for you bike? Or is it some custom colour?

https://www.fowlersparts.co.uk/parts/4158528/fzs600-fazer-5dm1-1998-070-a/cowling-1
(deep redish cocktail red 1 - so double check your colour)

£173 + vat for genuine, painting box eye fairing from Fowlers . In Stock.
Won't include decals though.

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FZS600 Fazer / Re: 2002 Fazer 600 Rear Wheel
« on: 31 July 2017, 10:28:59 pm »
Garage did have a quick attempt at bolt, but suggested the very same plan of another wheel when I rang them! Picked up a Thundercat wheel for £25, then just let local garage swap tyre, sprocket over and pop new bearings in. Let them fit my new Brembo disc (£80) with fresh Yammy bolts (£10 for set) too. Garage charged me £50 total for time. Wheel back on now, and can definitely feel the difference of fresh bearings! - either that or a week riding my wife's CBF500 has made me really appreciate the Fazer! Maybe my old ones were showing their age (14 years old and done 50K).

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General / Re: Yamaha Price Increases
« on: 27 July 2017, 06:58:02 pm »
Quote
Cash buyers currently seen as a nuisance by many dealers
It’s true and I’ll never understand that.  Why would you ever want to turn away the dudes who actually have the dosh! 


Because dealers earn a nice commission on the finance they can sell. Profit margins on the vehicle itself will always be tight, so they'll be somewhat reliant on profit from selling finance.


Best plan is to negotiate price/extras etc, then disclose you're a cash buyer.

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General / Re: Yamaha Price Increases
« on: 27 July 2017, 01:04:50 pm »
The key thing that has put me off PCP deals, is the often low mileage allowance. So, you're either stumped with excess mileage charges or end up negotiating a not so cheap monthly rate. I've been averaging close on 10k a year just from modest commuting and not even much touring...

Also, as a London commuter, I'm always going to pick up the odd scuff and scrape, is inevitable. All of which will bite you in the ass when 3 years is up and the dealer works out if the bike is really still worth the value it is supposed to. If not, again you'll be out of pocket.

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General / Re: cooling system flush
« on: 23 July 2017, 10:45:38 pm »
Yep use Radflush. Flushed mine with it a couple of years ago, as it all came out super brown like yours sounds. Flushed it again last month and all came out a nice bright pink, so it must have done the job.

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