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General => General => Topic started by: JoeRock on 13 September 2013, 02:59:52 pm
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Well we all know that the Fazers are good all around bikes, but I thought I'd go out and ask a properly damnable question - what, if anything, are you all planning on getting next, and why?
The next bike I'll be having will either be either another late model ZX9R (2000-2004), or an early GSX-R1000 (same years), funds allowing.
I miss the acceleration and handling of a proper liter sports bike, yet both of these bikes are more than comfy (for me at least, the 9 I imagine pretty much for anyone) and have enough luggage options and tank range that mean I'll still be able to do long distance riding. I think the only real downer will be the pillion provision won't be as good, but then in fairness that's not exactly that much of a surprise!
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When my 600 gives up the ghost I'll probably look at a Ducati Hyperstrada (£££) or a Triumph Tiger Sport.
Don't REALLY want to have another sports bike, they were fun but my licence is point free right now
One of my neighbours has a VFR 1200 which looks lots of fun, no clutch or gear lever, 3 automatic modes for gear change
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Something like a Blackbird. Borrowed one for 3 weeks and loved it. I'll either get one to go with my Fazer, or if that expires of gets smashed, then to replace it. The Fazer will never be sold as it's worth cock all.
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+1 for the Blackbird as well... forgot to mention that one
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As mentioned elsewhere, I was looking at the Triumph Sprint 1050 ST as an additional bike for fun whilst keeping the Fazer for loading up with luggage etc when needed.
I'm still thinking about it, but maybe next year...
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Once the fz1 gets retired/sold, its time for a complete change. Possibly a cruiser for dawdling about, and some kind of 600/800 sports streetfighter stylee for getting my kicks.
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i'll probably get a versys. oh, just remembered, i've got one!
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Actually a Blackbird is probably the only other bike on my "possibly" list - love the look and the reputation, only thing that would put me off a bit is just how bloody big they are! Be lovely on the motorways, I would imagine less so on the twisties!
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Big bikes !!!! :eek
i dont get it with you lot loving those big bikes, like bulky,heavy.
A bloke brought his Busa to Italy, we had to wheel the bikes backwards out of the garage in the mornings, well what a palava with the Busa,,so bloody long and awkward,a mate rides out with us on his 1400zxr kwak, its a bit like a ship.He does not feel comfortable keeping up with us,Fz1s and Gsxr 750 on the twisties.
I value the ease of moving the Fazer , weight and size will always be at the forefront on any bike i buy.
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Ah, but the name,,, Blackbird! Appeals to a certain generation and actually looks as good today as it did when it was launched.
(think SR-71)
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Lockheed_SR-71_Blackbird.jpg)
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(http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQtZRfwd3YGp5FdyOPu3LM5coObtKKd8nk0dEiQMtr2BiRhRnp2tA)
Sorry, last photo was pointlessly big,,,
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Anybody care to point out that black is slow?... :lol
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Never seen one painted hi viz with reflecting stripes :lol
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not my cup of tea
(http://i909.photobucket.com/albums/ac294/biblebasher_photo/blackbird_zps0e865101.jpg) (http://s909.photobucket.com/user/biblebasher_photo/media/blackbird_zps0e865101.jpg.html)
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Anybody care to point out that black is slow?... :lol
They do a fast model too...
(http://dropbears.com/gallery/honda/images/cbr1100xx99.jpg)
It's the way everything is so effortless that I like about it. It's also pretty easy to filter on although not as comfy around town as the fzs due to the seating position.
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Apart from the height / knee issue I'm having I'm actually looking forward to having a LESS powerful bike than my fazer 600, so I too don't get all of this super uber mega bike lark. Especially down here on the fantastically surfaced (sarcasm) devon roads, riding about under the watchful eye of the law with some dunce pulling out on you left right and centre. At least if you drop a supermoto, sure it sucks but its not the end of the world. If I dropped something like a hayabusa (I prefer the GSX1400) I would be distraught. I couldn't imagine just popping down to spar on a hayabusa either but I've always been anti sport bikes and my mates all think I'm an old man so maybe I'm the weird one. Oh and in answer to the OP I'm looking at something like a CCM 644 dual sport, KLX 650, MZ Baghira or Husqvarna 610 as my next bike :)
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Would love to be able to afford a Tiger but for now my 99 Fazer is enough for an old guy.
Caretaker: Hows the Versys?? Is it a tad underpowered being a twin anall? Seen the ER6 which in effect is the same motor in a smaller frame so does that compromise some ooomph ??
Ta Buck
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After I kill this bike I shall probably go for another Thundercat, does anything and everything and is just as comfy for my weekly thousand miles, just has that tiny bit more power than the fzs600!
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I had a bird for 2 years before my beloved Fazer...got to admit its the most awesome enginenI have ever ridden, but it is heavy, I couldn't move it, had to get my OH to shift it around (one of the reasons it had to go) it really is a touring bike, personally I don't think it's great for twisties but mates that have them recon it me, hate to admit it but it's not a bike for a girl let alone a granny lol :rolleyes
If I had to choose something else now it would have to be Z1000SX :lol
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I honestly have no idea... I'm still fairly fresh to this whole biking world and would end up going on the recommendations of others really
Bar a Gen 1 thou, I think I would potentially look at a triple - bit more torque without completely compromising top end - or at least that's as far as I understand it :\
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MT 09. It just catches my eye, ticks all my boxes for the kind of riding I do now, and its different to the last few bikes I've owned. And a good price for a brand new bike. And looks like it might be quite nuts. :b
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Still loving this
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-RcQPKAANBiM/UcNUKJneFGI/AAAAAAAABUM/KfxONjd0cTU/w824-h618-no/NewCanlrg.png)
Have replaced that can with a more conventional carbon stubby though
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MT 09. It just catches my eye, ticks all my boxes for the kind of riding I do now, and its different to the last few bikes I've owned. And a good price for a brand new bike. And looks like it might be quite nuts. :b
Me too. I'm seriously liking those bikes right now.
Either that or a DiBlasi for the novelty.
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+3
From what I've read it sounds really appealing... unfortunately there's something about its looks that doesn't quite sit right with me...
But here's some blasphemy, I've always thought that cars are prettier anyways :evil
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Big bikes !!!! :eek
i dont get it with you lot loving those big bikes, like bulky,heavy.
A bloke brought his Busa to Italy, we had to wheel the bikes backwards out of the garage in the mornings, well what a palava with the Busa,,so bloody long and awkward,a mate rides out with us on his 1400zxr kwak, its a bit like a ship.He does not feel comfortable keeping up with us,Fz1s and Gsxr 750 on the twisties.
I value the ease of moving the Fazer , weight and size will always be at the forefront on any bike i buy.
A lot of people that can't ride properly get the same hang up with big bikes so I can see where you are coming from. The Busa is a heap of shite apart from a straight line so understand that too, and it seems the owner can't ride either so he is wasting his time. The Fazer 600 is a far better bike than the thou to be sure as it is nimble, with decent bars, and can be both a commuter and scratcher and fantastic when you are in the mood and with decent tyres. That is to say NOT BT45s.
I reckon the Bird can be hustled with the best of them, the most usable hyperbike, it's like a big twist and go I understand. A bit of a long reach to the bars but a great sports tourer, at least that's what the rest of the world seems to think.
Some riders cannot get the best out of any bike and waste their money on penile extension and then look like wankers being overtaken and outridden by Fazer 600 riders, I love baiting big bikes on the 5DM.
I think the Bird is 223kg kerb weight, heavy ys, but not heavy like my XS1100E, the Fazer thou is no lightweight and shows that in the poor handling unless modified. The 600 is spot on but my 600 with me on is heavier than a Bird or ZX12R with a less than bloaty rider too :D
Like implied, a lot of people diss that which they cannot understand and obviously it's the bikes fault if they can't ride it as they are riding Gods. Not.
Still opinions are like arseholes, everyone has one, and this is just my opinion. I am sure there are much more experienced and better rider and KAFAs that know better than me.
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([url]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/97/Lockheed_SR-71_Blackbird.jpg[/url])
awesome image, awesome.
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My next blackbird
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/14/zuvy8epu.jpg)
One fer christo and nog and dead
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/14/he8u8aqe.jpg)
A V.fast honda
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/14/va2ane9u.jpg)
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My next blackbird
([url]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/14/zuvy8epu.jpg[/url])
A V.fast honda
([url]http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/09/14/va2ane9u.jpg[/url])
she looks like a better ride than my blackie.,
not a v fast honda, it is a slow blue one
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Exup last night......help me please, anybody....i dont care what colour you are!!! :'( ,where are yous guys! :'(
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Seriously though, this guy made a bike outta his broken down car in the middle of the desert.
[font=.HelveticaNeueUI]http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2168061/French-electrician-stranded-Moroccan-desert-rebuilt-wrecked-car-motorbike-drove-civilisation.html[/font]
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Sorry i jacked the post, that was meant to be in exups broken down section.
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Well we all know that the Fazers are good all around bikes, but I thought I'd go out and ask a properly damnable question - what, if anything, are you all planning on getting next, and why?
The next bike I'll be having will either be either another late model ZX9R (2000-2004), or an early GSX-R1000 (same years), funds allowing.
I miss the acceleration and handling of a proper liter sports bike, yet both of these bikes are more than comfy (for me at least, the 9 I imagine pretty much for anyone) and have enough luggage options and tank range that mean I'll still be able to do long distance riding. I think the only real downer will be the pillion provision won't be as good, but then in fairness that's not exactly that much of a surprise!
The question is unfair as I have no plans to get anything else.... however the things that I've seen and catch my eye (note I know nothing about bikes) with your requirements are the Aprilia Tuono(http://www.beechdalemotorcycles.com/showroom.php#585 (http://www.beechdalemotorcycles.com/showroom.php#585)), R1 (can't go wrong with an R1 surely) and BMW 1000SS (Better start saving :-).
My choices, were I to have any, would be the Fazer Thou, G650 GS or most likely the MT-09.
I'm sure none of my input helped, but oh well.
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I love the look of the triumph rocket 3 but honestly would go for anything with plenty of torque, low center of gravity and not much bigger than my fzs600.
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My next blackbird
I don't think I've ever seen so much touching up :-P is it the bird from the second photo post cosmo airbrush department?
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(http://i1087.photobucket.com/albums/j478/lew600fazer/DSC_0307.jpg) (http://s1087.photobucket.com/user/lew600fazer/media/DSC_0307.jpg.html)
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I see she didn't do a very good job of hiding your keys again Lew - does this mean no winter job for me in sunny Spain? :lol
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Consider a YZF1000, sportier and lighter than Blackbird, comfier than Ninja and GSXR.
(http://www.ace31.altervista.org/immagini/ThunderAce/Thunderace-26.JPG)
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Nice leathers!
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+3
From what I've read it sounds really appealing... unfortunately there's something about its looks that doesn't quite sit right with me...
But here's some blasphemy, I've always thought that cars are prettier anyways :evil
+4, fancy a test ride on the MT 09, could also be tempted by a KTM 990 SMT
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I see she didn't do a very good job of hiding your keys again Lew - does this mean no winter job for me in sunny Spain? :lol
Work starts tomorrow as even I am getting a bit bored now just a bit of tiling to break me in easy again after the summer.
Have a mate and his wife down staying just now, will be glad when they have gone as the liver needs a rest.
Still plenty to do if you are stuck for a weekend. :lol
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Unlike the OFOFs, I'm still able to move all my joints. This means you, Fizzy_Pies! :lol :lol :lol
I'd love to really thrash something like a CBR-RR or an R6 round a track. They look very sharp, and I'd like to try their hangling. Nice as it is, the Fazer 600 isn't really racebike material, is it?
Not too keen on Kawas (who could love that gruesome shade of green?), and the Suzukis leave me cold...
Yammys or Hondas, please!
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If the FZ1 went would love a Z1000SX but don't think the budget would stretch. Tested a B/bird and Triumph (Sprint and Tiger) but did nothing for me.
Actually looking for another XJR1300 as my 2nd bike (winter bike :rolleyes ). Had one several years ago and it was a great bike.
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I'd love to really thrash something like a CBR-RR or an R6 round a track. They look very sharp, and I'd like to try their hangling. Nice as it is, the Fazer 600 isn't really racebike material, is it?
yamaha r6 [barry] vs fazer 600 [hans] (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BExsiC68fmg#) Depends on the rider I guess, although they both seem decent enough!
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Interesting comparison between those two actually!
Can see that the fella riding definitely knows the track/takes better lines as he's much wider coming into corners, he really uses the full width of the track as well when exiting them which is good. You can also see where he's catching the other fella up entering the corers as well, looks like he's braking much later and harder than the chap on the R6. R6 does get better drive out of the corners though and then somewhat unsurpisingly obliterates him on the straights!
Damnit I need another sports bike in my life :lol
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Cool video that, nice little bit of Knockhill action 8)
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+1 for sumos. Full on racing sumo would be the perfect urban commuter if it wasn't for the frightening maintenance required. But now you can get electric ones that only need attention to tyres, brakes & chain. And the added bonus of costing pennies to 'fuel' up. Short range is not a problem if your journey is only 10 miles each way and you remember to plug it in every time you get home. The latest ones are alleged to have power to weight ratio of a DRZ400 but this will only get better. The future could well be electric. Just waiting for reliability/longevity reports to come in, and prices to come down a bit.
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I'd love to really thrash something like a CBR-RR or an R6 round a track. They look very sharp, and I'd like to try their hangling. Nice as it is, the Fazer 600 isn't really racebike material, is it?
Depends on the rider I guess, although they both seem decent enough!
Nah, they're both knobbers.
:pokefun
Both of 'em are members on here, both of them far too quick for they're own good.
Twats.
:rollin
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As my fazer is a longterm ongoing build project I went out and bought a crf250l for my backroad commute and weekend greenlaning. Bloody brilliant bike! Cheap to run (it uses the new cbr250 engine so low maintenance costs), looks the tits and is perfect for tearing about in the mud.
as standard though they wouldn't pull the skin off a cold rice pudding, but I have a stage 1 kit on mine, and it makes all the difference. Currently debating whether to get the 305cc bigbore kit
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Interesting comparison between those two actually!
Can see that the fella riding definitely knows the track/takes better lines as he's much wider coming into corners, he really uses the full width of the track as well when exiting them which is good. You can also see where he's catching the other fella up entering the corers as well, looks like he's braking much later and harder than the chap on the R6. R6 does get better drive out of the corners though and then somewhat unsurpisingly obliterates him on the straights!
Damnit I need another sports bike in my life :lol
At your age I would definitely be riding sports bikes. But just try to remember you're not invincible, cos it'll f**k you up for the rest of your life if you get it wrong on the road. They're designed to do one thing well - go bloody fast, all the time, and that's what you try to do on them. If you could afford one bike for track and one for road, you should definitely go that way, get the aggression out on the track.
But I'm enjoying my biking much more now than when I had sports bikes, so just remember, there's plenty of time to indulge in two wheel fun yet. Still yet to do a track day tho, so it's on my list, along with a good European tour - boxes yet to be ticked!
My next bike? Well, I think it'd have to be a Fazer thou gen 1! :z :lol
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After I kill this bike I shall probably go for another Thundercat, does anything and everything and is just as comfy for my weekly thousand miles, just has that tiny bit more power than the fzs600!
Have you tired Honda CBR600F (F4, or F4i)? How does it compare to Fazer/thundercat?
My favourites would be Kawasaky Versys, or the mentioned Honda.
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Well we all know that the Fazers are good all around bikes, but I thought I'd go out and ask a properly damnable question - what, if anything, are you all planning on getting next, and why?
The next bike I'll be having will either be either another late model ZX9R (2000-2004), or an early GSX-R1000 (same years), funds allowing.
I miss the acceleration and handling of a proper liter sports bike, yet both of these bikes are more than comfy (for me at least, the 9 I imagine pretty much for anyone) and have enough luggage options and tank range that mean I'll still be able to do long distance riding. I think the only real downer will be the pillion provision won't be as good, but then in fairness that's not exactly that much of a surprise!
If I could go back to sports bikes, the GSXR thou K4 is definitely the one I'd be considering. Have you read the latest PB mag? Some good write ups on this one in there, and as they say, the last one before Euro 3 emissions put all the ugly, heavy power-strangling cans on.. I also remember it being said at the time that this was about the most capable sports bike going - the appeal to me was the acres of mid-range and best handling yet of any of the thous. Definitely a benchmark bike.
It has just occurred to me that this would have been a cracking engine for Suzuki to have based a Fazer-style all-rounder on - missed opportunity there! The Japs really need to take a leaf out of Aprillia's book and stop messing around with de/re-tuning their sports bike engines for such bikes, or at least don't overdo it, when they've got a good one like this. The Fazer thous seem to be the only ones that are really right, or am I missing something?
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Just for you Simonm...