Post by: Wootan on 11 September 2013, 01:33:09 pm
Thought I best introduce myself as no doubt I will be asking for some help before too long. I'm not sure how I ended up in this position but I have effectively been given my Uncle's Fazer. It's a 2001 FZS600 with 16k on the clock. Before you all start calling me lucky it has a bit of a sting in tail. He has owned the bike for around ten years but it hasn't moved for more than a year; in itself this wouldn't be a problem except it was parked outside his house which is 20yds from the beach in Brighton. It's fair to say its seen better days. A breaker offered him £150 but I hate to see things scrapped so I've been talked into a full restoration. I've done classic cars before but not bikes so should be interesting.
I'll try and post some pictures later, I've started tearing it down so the frame can be powder coated, the engine is out and looks shocking; to be honest I can't believe it still ran but after a year of standing a bit of fresh petrol and a charged battery and it fired up first time!
I'll keep you posted.
Thanks
Paul
Post by: Chris on 11 September 2013, 01:37:56 pm
Get plenty of pics up for us to see the progress.
Chris
Post by: red98 on 11 September 2013, 03:20:46 pm
Post by: Punkstig on 11 September 2013, 04:25:46 pm
Nice to know its getting a full strip down and rebuild.
Post by: Lumpy on 11 September 2013, 07:14:44 pm
All of us on here know the black engine paint on the 600's is shocking to say the least so that wouldn't put any of us off!mine is bloody good considering its 94k
Nice to know its getting a full strip down and rebuild.
Post by: Wootan on 11 September 2013, 08:39:14 pm
Here are a couple of pics so you can see the scale of the problem. Assuming it works obviously!
Post by: Wootan on 11 September 2013, 08:40:12 pm
Post by: Chris on 11 September 2013, 08:59:08 pm
Need a new chain by the looks of that one, discs might be salvageable but I imagine the calipers will need rebuilt with new seals etc.
Will be a good project and will look sweet when it's done. Plenty spare parts in the classifieds section on here plus loads on ebay too.
Chris
Post by: reillypadraig on 11 September 2013, 09:28:09 pm
Any probs you have just throw them up, lots guys on here that know their Fazers inside out so this was the right place to come,
If you need parts just ask,
I have a full engine sitting up( the old one was given to me but cylinder 3 is fried, all other parts are in good enough nik, plus I have 2 sets of carbs, but none complete but if you need certain small bits I can help.
Good to see that restoration is being done on these and not scraped. Good project!!
Post by: Wootan on 12 September 2013, 07:19:00 pm
Thanks for the support, a couple more pictures for you. The carb rubbers were rotten through and a fair bit of debris has gone down the inlet ports, I was planning on taking the head off check through everything so not a complete disaster.
Post by: Punkstig on 12 September 2013, 07:33:13 pm
Post by: Buzz on 13 September 2013, 08:38:49 am
Doesn't look like it has the front sprocket nut issue in fairness! :lol
Doesn't look like it has the front sprocket nut
Post by: Dead Eye on 13 September 2013, 09:14:01 am
Post by: red98 on 13 September 2013, 09:21:30 am
Post by: Wootan on 19 September 2013, 07:45:01 pm
Nearly there now, just the front end and swing arm to come off. Trying to decide on colour combination any suggestion for frame, swing arm and fairings?
Post by: elbrownos on 19 September 2013, 08:55:59 pm
Post by: Chris on 19 September 2013, 09:33:19 pm
As for colours then everyone will just suggest the same colour as their own bike (because everyone thinks their colour is the fastest... haha) I do love the origonal yamaha colour of deep purplish blue metallic cocktail, same as my foxeye but got for something completely different. I always think the fazers shape lends itself well to a strip of different colour down the middle. the tank has the raised centre section, the tail unit has the centre section and the front can easily be seperated between the lights or whatever. Go on give it a racing stripe then it'll be super fast. haha.
I had my wheels done gloss black and think it looks much nicer than the standard satin black too as they never looked clean and shiney to me.
Keep us updated!
Chris
Post by: Dead Eye on 19 September 2013, 09:44:37 pm
I still like the deeper red of the early Boxeyes
But, so far, its the "Lava Red" scheme you get on the Gen1 thou's that I like the most ^^
Post by: Buzz on 20 September 2013, 08:19:02 am
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,1380.msg46361.html#msg46361 (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,1380.msg46361.html#msg46361)
Post by: Wootan on 20 September 2013, 02:19:15 pm
Post by: Wootan on 24 September 2013, 10:20:46 pm
Frame is naked now aside from one head bearing race but that shouldn't be too tricky. Took me a while to figure out how to remove the swing arm bearings without damaging them but got there in the end. Powder coating should start early next week assuming I get chance to clean everything at the weekend. I'm really not looking forward to starting on that engine!
Post by: Punkstig on 24 September 2013, 10:34:38 pm
Post by: darrsi on 24 September 2013, 10:35:44 pm
Pink is the way forward!
If that was the case then you would be called 'Pinkstig' :)
Post by: Punkstig on 24 September 2013, 10:37:30 pm
Pink is getting very popular in the chop scene!
Post by: Wootan on 24 September 2013, 10:44:57 pm
Post by: Frosties on 25 September 2013, 07:38:12 am
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Post by: Punkstig on 25 September 2013, 08:01:10 am
Ideas what I gone and thunk of-
Herbie the love bug paint scheme. (Think this would fit well with a flat tracker style bike)
Dukes of hazard general lee (but been done before)
I've always wanted to have mine painted up like an X-wing and my top box painted up like R2D2 (still a possibility in the future I think)
Someone should throw caution to the wind and do a Tiger stripe bike, that guy would have massive balls!
But, while you have the opportunity I'd definitely think of doing the frame a different colour, I think the Daytona's and the R1's look lovely!
Post by: Doubleclix on 29 September 2013, 08:02:50 pm
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 29 September 2013, 08:22:45 pm
Personally I love the speedblock paint scheme, but when you have a blank canvas then surely go nuts!
Ideas what I gone and thunk of-
Herbie the love bug paint scheme. (Think this would fit well with a flat tracker style bike)
Dukes of hazard general lee (but been done before)
I've always wanted to have mine painted up like an X-wing and my top box painted up like R2D2 (still a possibility in the future I think)
Someone should throw caution to the wind and do a Tiger stripe bike, that guy would have massive balls!
But, while you have the opportunity I'd definitely think of doing the frame a different colour, I think the Daytona's and the R1's look lovely!
Who in their right mind would put tiger stri............oh. :tape :lol
Post by: jason1 on 29 September 2013, 10:12:21 pm
Post by: Wootan on 12 September 2015, 01:16:59 pm
As you might have guessed things stalled a little on the project, mainly due to a baby but I've started again and things are coming along albeit slowly.
I've tried to attach some picture of the engine so you can see the progress. During the break a few bits have been lost, nothing significant but and most are easily replaced. I'm current rebuilding the head and have managed to lose the exhaust valve spring seats, does anyone have a broken engine so have some spare or point me in the right direction so I can source some replacements.
Thanks
Post by: Bretty on 12 September 2015, 08:32:32 pm
I have this pile sat outside my flat. I took the gearbox out and this is the remains of the donor.
By the way, that looks like an awesome job!
Post by: Chris on 12 September 2015, 08:58:28 pm
Chris
Post by: Wootan on 12 September 2015, 09:05:20 pm
Post by: Wootan on 12 September 2016, 06:47:09 pm
I've moved house which put another delay on the restoration; I've also managed to lose all the photos I took during the tear down so that should make things interesting. Anyway I'm moving albeit slowly on with things see the pictures below. I've included a picture of the headlight frame so you can see what I'm working with and appreciate why everything takes so long. Hopefully more regular updates will follow and no doubt lots of questions!
All the best.
Post by: Wootan on 12 September 2016, 06:49:24 pm
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Post by: gingernut on 12 September 2016, 10:48:36 pm
Ginger x
Post by: Wootan on 12 September 2016, 11:03:40 pm
Post by: Wootan on 12 November 2016, 07:28:47 pm
Bike is coming along slowly, I'll post some pics but it wont let me at the moment for some reason.
Couple of questions: There are two pipes coming out of the bottom of the air box and in to a T junction and into a filter and then another pipe to lord knows where. I only know this from the parts diagram as I don't remember this from the tear down and consequently I don't have the bits. Any ideas what it does and where it goes?
Also there is mesh type filter in a black plastic bulb on the top of the carbs, it looks like it should have a pipe on it, any ideas if it should and where it goes?
Thanks.
Post by: bikemad on 17 November 2016, 09:53:58 am
Post by: Wootan on 17 November 2016, 09:56:28 pm
Post by: Wootan on 17 November 2016, 10:07:34 pm
Post by: celticdog on 29 November 2016, 10:01:11 pm
Post by: Chris on 01 December 2016, 04:17:31 am
Like the attention to detail,
Chris
Post by: Fazer99 on 01 December 2016, 10:23:51 am
Post by: Wootan on 03 December 2016, 10:24:37 pm
Anodised Aluminium, also know as primer :lol.
Starting on the forks tomorrow, everything looks pretty grotty so should be interesting.
I'll get some pics up tomorrow.
Post by: joebloggs on 04 December 2016, 12:52:03 pm
Post by: Wootan on 04 December 2016, 05:51:18 pm
Post by: joebloggs on 06 December 2016, 08:39:33 am
I used a specific engine paint and etch primer. It wasnt cheap but worked really well, especially for brush painting. I soda blasted everything first then 3 coats of each. Let me know if you want a link to the paint.
Link would be great
Thanks
Post by: Wootan on 08 December 2016, 09:44:56 pm
https://www.paragonpaints.co.uk/ (https://www.paragonpaints.co.uk/)
Post by: devilsyam on 10 December 2016, 04:30:20 pm
Post by: Wootan on 18 December 2016, 10:51:14 am
Post by: devilsyam on 18 December 2016, 07:24:01 pm
Post by: Graham53 on 18 December 2016, 10:39:54 pm
( didn't know if Devilsyam was joking sorry 😐)
Post by: devilsyam on 21 December 2016, 10:32:59 pm
Post by: joebloggs on 23 December 2016, 08:54:46 am
i wasnt never heard of it as a blasting service
Devilsam, if you go on youtube you'll find video's of people blasting complete engines, something you couldn't do with other media as it would risk destroying the motor if it was to find its way inside a casing
Post by: joebloggs on 23 December 2016, 08:56:30 am
Post by: nash on 18 February 2017, 10:34:00 pm
Post by: Wootan on 25 February 2017, 05:10:08 pm
Any progress in this restoration? So far you did a really good job. :thumbup
Thanks Nash. I've not had a great deal of spare time recently but a little progress has been made. I've replaced the rear shock and started the rebuild on the front forks. Pics below.
Post by: Wootan on 11 April 2017, 10:31:53 pm
Managed to get some time in the garage this weekend. All the fork parts have arrived including the new stanchions so hopefully I'll get them reassembled over Easter.
Post by: BBROWN1664 on 12 April 2017, 11:27:03 am
Post by: vinnyb on 12 April 2017, 06:14:11 pm
Post by: red98 on 12 April 2017, 06:33:38 pm
Sorry I know I'm a pedant but where's the 2nd T?
its a restoraion project.......unfinished :rolleyes ........... :lol
Nice work WOOAN........ :thumbup
Post by: vinnyb on 12 April 2017, 07:02:16 pm
Nice work WOOAN........ :thumbup
Get it right Red, It's a projec :lol Only pulling your leg Wootan, cracking job so far :thumbup
Post by: vinnyb on 12 April 2017, 07:05:50 pm
its a restoraion project.......unfinished :rolleyes ........... :lol
Nice work WOOAN........ :thumbup
Get it right Red. It's a projec :lol
Only pulling your leg Wootan, Cracking job so far :thumbup
Post by: red98 on 12 April 2017, 07:16:36 pm
Post by: vinnyb on 12 April 2017, 07:20:30 pm
Post by: Disorderlypunk on 15 April 2017, 10:16:52 am
mine might be getting the full strip and redesign treatment when i get my new house in the city (need it everyday here in the countryside)
will be watching with anticipation of where you go with yours
im thinking of going a metalic high sparkle blue with hydrodip layed over the top
if your wanting to stand out have a look at the hydrograpics options its amzing what you can have done now
Post by: vinnyb on 15 April 2017, 11:12:40 am
Post by: Wootan on 17 April 2017, 05:23:19 pm
That however is the least of my problems. Tried to strip the wheels for powder coating and the brake disc bolts aren't for shifting. One has snapped already so looks like I'll be drilling them out unless a little heat will persuade them.
Post by: vinnyb on 17 April 2017, 09:41:21 pm
Post by: tommyardin on 17 April 2017, 09:57:06 pm
Great progress man!
As for colours then everyone will just suggest the same colour as their own bike (because everyone thinks their colour is the fastest... haha) I do love the origonal yamaha colour of deep purplish blue metallic cocktail, same as my foxeye but got for something completely different. I always think the fazers shape lends itself well to a strip of different colour down the middle. the tank has the raised centre section, the tail unit has the centre section and the front can easily be seperated between the lights or whatever. Go on give it a racing stripe then it'll be super fast. haha.
I had my wheels done gloss black and think it looks much nicer than the standard satin black too as they never looked clean and shiney to me.
Keep us updated!
Chris
Yeah Chris is right about all Fazer owners thinking their colour is the fastest, all except the Silver Owners they don't just think they know LOL :finger
Post by: vinnyb on 17 April 2017, 10:00:43 pm
Post by: savvy on 18 April 2017, 07:13:43 pm
Now then is the perfect time to try the ATF/Acetone mix for us don'tcha think?
Mixed paraffin with ATF for exhaust on Mondeo and worked a treat. :)
Post by: fazersharp on 19 April 2017, 11:36:06 am
I love what you've done with the cooling fins. I think I'm gonna do the same to mine once I've resprayed it.I had to double check what you had done there but, yes I think I may do that too
Post by: vinnyb on 19 April 2017, 10:56:51 pm
Post by: Wootan on 28 January 2018, 01:27:57 pm