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Title: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: Frosties on 11 September 2013, 12:50:39 pm
In a predicament fellas and need some advice.


My main 50 mile each way commute is a Triumph Tiger 900 which is currently off the road until i receive some new coil packs. The Fazer is my Friday early getaway bike (and backup bike) because it is so much better at slipping through the traffic leaving London to go back down the M4.


As a result I have been using the Fazer since Monday and each day has been a bit of a bitch getting out (Monday especially). The main area is leading up to Earls Court Rd on the A4 through to the end of the M4 elevated.


The Fazer simply gets through the gaps so much easier than the Tiger and I can still make progress even when nearly gridlocked - Tiger is bloody hard work when traffic like this.


Now, due to a bad fall some 5 years ago, I can't last more than 3 days on the Fazer due to the slightly leant forward position hence the preference for the Tiger with its upright riding style.


With the traffic seemingly getting worse, I'm looking at what would be a hybrid of the 2 bikes (sell the Tiger). The bike needs a 200 mile range, decent weather protection as I ride all year, be able to have a top box and be as good as the Fazer for traffic busting but with an upright riding position. Must also be able to sit at 95mph with no issues.


The only 2 that come to mind is a 650 V-Strom :D  or a Dullville  :'(


Any other ideas would be appreciated. Cheers in advance.
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: mickvp on 11 September 2013, 01:01:10 pm
The deuvilles are not the worst bikes ever. Not the most exciting, granted, but not the worst.

Isn't the yamaha diversion a little more upright than the fazer?
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: Fraser on 11 September 2013, 01:40:27 pm
Kawasaki Versys, I've had 2 of them, the Mk1 is great, only problem I had was my 29 inch inside leg, but if you are OK with a Tiger I guess the Versys would be OK. Not as much topend bhp as a Fazor but lots more bottom and midrange.
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: bigbluebear on 11 September 2013, 01:45:59 pm
Gen1 with raised up Renthals....sorted
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: Buzz on 11 September 2013, 02:24:57 pm
..some risers with Renthals?


http://www.mandp.co.uk/productinfo/595726/Off-Road/Hard-Parts/On-Two-Wheels/Adjustable-Handlebar-Raiser (http://www.mandp.co.uk/productinfo/595726/Off-Road/Hard-Parts/On-Two-Wheels/Adjustable-Handlebar-Raiser)
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: Punkstig on 11 September 2013, 04:22:45 pm
As others have said,  raise the bars.
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: Frosties on 11 September 2013, 04:47:44 pm
Hadn't thought of the bar raise option. Just been out and had a look at it and there's next to no play left in the cables so reckon trying to raise them is out of the question.


Gen1 thou was mentioned - anyone know the tank size and rough range it would give me?


There's this [size=78%]http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,9680.0.html (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,9680.0.html)[/size]   :D
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: tkwish on 11 September 2013, 06:03:53 pm
Think mine are up and back and there seem to be no problem with cables
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: UG on 11 September 2013, 06:41:37 pm
Scrambler.
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: jon on 11 September 2013, 06:46:08 pm
Longer cables? Aint exactly difficult, you can get cables and hoses any length you like, after all, the chopper boys use them all the time. Earls made me up braided hoses to my specs for my dirtbike, any length ya want!
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: Stradaman on 11 September 2013, 07:10:14 pm
Gen 1 thou had 21ltr tank, gently will do around 180 range,
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: dazza on 11 September 2013, 07:26:09 pm
Gen 1 thou had 21ltr tank, gently will do around 180 range,
:lurk
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: rayburn600 on 11 September 2013, 08:41:31 pm
Kawasaki ZRX1200S
Mind I've never got more than 160 miles to the tank. :lol
Good bike tho.
Loads of go. Comfortable. Good riding position.
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: Frosties on 12 September 2013, 08:22:12 am
Gen 1 thou had 21ltr tank, gently will do around 180 range,


Well that looks like the Gen1 thou is out........doubt it will touch 200 miles if i sit at 95 on t'motorway and I get bored taking it easy.

[/size]ZRX1200S looks nice but like the CB1300 or XJR 1300 i doubt I'd get near 200 miles on a tank[size=78%][/size] [size=78%] :'(


Looking like longer cables etc (think mine's been raised already).


No thoughts on the the Dullville or V-Strom ???? Like MickVP said....a Dullville isn't the worst bike around (close tho) aaaaaaand it's only a 500 mile a week commuter not a weekender.


Cheers for all the advice fellas, appreciate it  :thumbup
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: Tmation on 12 September 2013, 10:58:36 am
You can normally re route cables and electrics to get a bit more adjustment on them
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: Lazarus on 12 September 2013, 11:16:20 am
BMW 1200 GS?
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 12 September 2013, 11:28:39 am
A Honda Transalp would tick all your boxes. I seen one on mcn for as little as £850 (600 cc version), or if you have the money, a Honda Afriac Twin. The prices of the twins are going through the roof right now. A few years ago you gould get them ten a penny sub 2k  :rolleyes
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: Frosties on 12 September 2013, 12:18:36 pm
BMW 1200 GS?


 :eek Shame on you for suggesting a GS over a Tiger  :lol  ............. width wise, it's actually a fair bit wider than what I have but thanks for the suggestion!
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: Frosties on 12 September 2013, 12:21:17 pm
A Honda Transalp would tick all your boxes. I seen one on mcn for as little as £850 (600 cc version), or if you have the money, a Honda Afriac Twin. The prices of the twins are going through the roof right now. A few years ago you gould get them ten a penny sub 2k  :rolleyes


 :)  We could have a winner!! Not as big as a Tiger, all day comfort, 200 mile range, good weather protection, reliable as fook, looks ok.


Cheers for that fella, will start looking  :thumbup
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: Lazarus on 12 September 2013, 02:34:57 pm
BMW 1200 GS?


 :eek Shame on you for suggesting a GS over a Tiger  :lol  ............. width wise, it's actually a fair bit wider than what I have but thanks for the suggestion!


well if you dont want it for yourself, you can buy it for me. I wont turn it down ;)

Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: Borderraider on 12 September 2013, 03:17:31 pm
Versys 650 or TDM 900, I've got both & they'll easily fill your requirements.
Of the two the Versys is better in traffic, the TDM can be snatchy at slow speed/revs.
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: Yamazer-92 on 12 September 2013, 03:27:14 pm
TDM 850? The last generation they made had a different crank and sound amazing with an upgraded exhaust can. Worth a look, may struggle with 200 miles if you're going 95 though...
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: rayburn600 on 12 September 2013, 03:32:25 pm
BMW F800GT
 
Supposed to do 60mpg +
Plus its a belt drive.
 Test rode one a couple of months back....ok ish.
----------------------
Now looking at the new Versys 650 tourer.
Complete with twin boxes MRA screen, hand guards, heated grips.  Under £7k. Lots of specials on the 2013 models, white or black.
Well worth a look.
 
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: Grahamm on 12 September 2013, 03:50:56 pm
Quote
Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What?

A Tazer :D

(Better than a Figer... :pokefun )
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: Frosties on 12 September 2013, 04:27:29 pm
Versys 650 or TDM 900, I've got both & they'll easily fill your requirements.
Of the two the Versys is better in traffic, the TDM can be snatchy at slow speed/revs.


That's the second shout for a Versys so will start looking at them seen as a Transalp only seems to do high 40's mpg!


The TDM 850 was nearly a winner over the Tiger some years back - very similar to the Tiger size wise so may have to leave it - more so with tank size..........the Tiger has a 25 litre jobby and does 53mpg regularly with my riding style. 200 miles, fill it up and i've still got 7 odd litres left.


BMW F800GT is a good shout - will give it a look!


A friggin Tazer...... :lol . Thought these comments would have come first but at least someone had a go  :lol
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: Bornagain again on 12 September 2013, 04:35:08 pm
a FOCRAT?
 
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: dazza on 12 September 2013, 05:37:22 pm
Gen 1 thou had 21ltr tank, gently will do around 180 range,


Well that looks like the Gen1 thou is out........doubt it will touch 200 miles if i sit at 95 on t'motorway and I get bored taking it easy.

Wouldn't be so sure about that. I recently came back from Hereford fully loaded with luggage 80 -95 MPH most the way and my fuel light came on just before I got home at 193 miles. I know for a fact that there is over a gallon left in the tank, so you do the maths.
Title: Re: Combine a Fazer With a Triumph Tiger And You Get a What? - Ideas Please
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 12 September 2013, 05:56:28 pm
For me it comes back to, would you actually want to do 200 miles before you stop for a break? If so, hats off to you; if not, perhaps you're limiting your choice unnecessarily?