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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: CRH on 04 September 2013, 02:43:32 pm
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earlier today went out on foxeye, did just over 60miles!..didnt miss a beat!!..mainley cruising speeds...odd couple a times up to red line!! ran perfect!!!...on the way home came across a line of slow moving traffic!..so went for a overtake..2nd,3rd,4th,..then,,, :eek ...complete cut out as if ide hit kill switch!!...as luck had it i had just about completed my pass,but found myself level with a 6 wheeler!! :rolleyes ...of which i just managed to slip behind!!....anyway i managed to coast into a layby..sidestand down ,shook the shit out me trouser legs and litt up a fag!!....5 minutes later i had a quick look over it,chkd fuel etc, switched it back on and>>>>>>>started up and purred away like nowt had just happened!!!.....so set off again no probs!!...took it up to 60 without any glitches!!..plenty of power etc!!....then fk me :eek did it again!!...but this time it wouldnt start !!....waited for about 15 mins tryed again and this time it started!!....got back home bt hour ago!! had another look over it ,chkd fuel pump that seems ok!!...chkd wiring plugs etc they all good!! only thing i did find was the ecu was very,very hot..dont know if this is normal or not??...but it started again and this time i lett it run till fan kicked in and didnt cut out at all :rolleyes any ideas???????????
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oh no....here we go,the start of another epic thread :rolleyes .........instant cut out points to electrics in my mind,"ecu getting hot".iam sure theres just a pcb in the black box so should not get that hot.....if it was fuel pump you would have got a little warning before it cut out ;) .......i`ll run my 600 tomorrow and see how hot the ecu gets.have you had the tank and side panels off to check all connections ?
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hi paul,...got tank off now as we speak!!...cant find anything amiss under there!!...got t agree with you though?...does seem electrical doesnt it?...no warning at all...scary moment there matey? :eek ....trouble is it wont fkn do it now?...went up n down our lane b for i took off tank and it ran perfect again!!...but this ecu is fkn scortchin hot!! :rolleyes ....have ran it for 3wks without any glitches ran lovely !..so think whatever it is its on its way out?
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I'm surprised your ECU is still working if it's getting that hot.
Have you checked the voltage across the battery when the bikes running?
It should be 15 volt. If it's a lot more maybe the voltage is not being regulated properly.
Or may be excess current is not going to earth.
And you've got excess current going through the ECU to get to earth.
Check the earthing of the regulator/rectifier and the connections to it (finned bit close to the head stock under the tank)
I caveat all the above with (I'm not that good on electrics).
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I'm surprised your ECU is still working if it's getting that hot.
Have you checked the voltage across the battery when the bikes running?
It should be 15 volt. If it's a lot more maybe the voltage is not being regulated properly.
Or may be excess current is not going to earth.
And you've got excess current going through the ECU to get to earth.
Check the earthing of the regulator/rectifier and the connections to it (finned bit close to the head stock under the tank)
I caveat all the above with (I'm not that good on electrics).
..hi just chkd that and ime getting 14.6...with lights off and 13.5 loaded up?.....have chkd connection to rectifier and that was ok!...but that is also very hot but seeing its got cooling fins on it think that may be normal?
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Have you tried revving the engine and seeing what the voltage is?
It should remain at up to 15 volt. If it goes higher, then the regulator isn't working properly.
I don't know how hot either the ECU or the regulator/rectifier should get unfortunately.
Often when a bike cuts out like yours has, it's a 'short' from live to earth or a poor connection.
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not too good on electrics either as you know :rolleyes ....all electrics are going to generate a bit of heat and i like your reasoning with the regulator......battery terminals tight ?,you`ve probs already checked that.....good excuse to get out on it and try and replicate the cut out,take your multimeter with you for some roadside checks ;) .
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got me thou with me at work today,going home shortly so will see how hot the ecu gets.....
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got me thou with me at work today,going home shortly so will see how hot the ecu gets.....
....thanks for that paul!...one to cross off the list hey?...hope t fk its not going t b one of those ...????/ er best/worst seller times again? :'( .....
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sure it wont be matey....probs something simple that you will find when your not looking for it....if that makes sense :rolleyes
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thinking out loud.....the ecu is well inclosed in the tail unit.if its normal to get hot i think mr yamaha would have mounted it elsewhere......just a thought ;)
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Have you tried revving the engine and seeing what the voltage is?
It should remain at up to 15 volt. If it goes higher, then the regulator isn't working properly.
I don't know how hot either the ECU or the regulator/rectifier should get unfortunately.
Often when a bike cuts out like yours has, it's a 'short' from live to earth or a poor connection.
...reving engine without any loading ime getting 14.85....with load.....14.2....thats reving it up to 4k..
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thinking out loud.....the ecu is well inclosed in the tail unit.if its normal to get hot i think mr yamaha would have mounted it elsewhere......just a thought ;)
...mmm hope so paul?....lets hope thers not a fazer virus in the air?....dont think i could go through all that again? :rolleyes
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ok clive...just got in......ecu is only slightly warm,hard to detect,why it would get so hot i dont know.......someone with electric knowledge will be along shortly :)
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ok clive...just got in......ecu is only slightly warm,hard to detect,why it would get so hot i dont know.......someone with electric knowledge will be along shortly :)
....thanks for that paul?...so mine sounds a bit iffy then" dont you think?.....in these situations you wish it would just pack up n be done with it dont you?...fkn hate shit like this!!....going t go out on it tomoro and get my lad to follow me t see what happens?...ile take me meter with me n see if i can trace it?......
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oh that would be too easy :lol ..........got a spare ecu here somewhere if you need one,i`ll be surprised if yours is faulty though ;)
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oh that would be too easy :lol ..........got a spare ecu here somewhere if you need one,i`ll be surprised if yours is faulty though ;)
....yes it would wouldnt it?.....thanks for the offer paul....ile keep thee posted ;) ....had it running again earlier for a good hour!!....didnt miss a fkn beat :'( ,,,,and within 15mins the ecu was red hot again??....dont know what t think? :rolleyes
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mmmmm....dont know what to suggest.was hoping a sparky would have come along by now ...
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I would suggest you lift the tank and open the box with all the connectors in it. Take them apart one by one and check them for corrosion. Dose them with WD 40 instead of contact cleaner as it leaves a film which prevents further corossion.
A common problem is for the red block with 2 connectors in it to show signs of burning due to arcing and is the main 12volt wire from the ignition. This can often lose contact causing the bike to cut out temporarly due to the corrosion and vibration.
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rover 400 would do the same and that turned out to be rotor arm failure or more the diode that it contained. I know bikes don't have rotor arms but does the rotor it have a diode or maybe the condenser
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It only ever happened on really hot days as well
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I would suggest you lift the tank and open the box with all the connectors in it. Take them apart one by one and check them for corrosion. Dose them with WD 40 instead of contact cleaner as it leaves a film which prevents further corossion.
A common problem is for the red block with 2 connectors in it to show signs of burning due to arcing and is the main 12volt wire from the ignition. This can often lose contact causing the bike to cut out temporarly due to the corrosion and vibration.
....cheers for that unfazed!...ile do what you suggest and see what happens?..it must be something like that to cause the ecu to get that hot surely?..i went in me garage at 5am this morning whilst everything nice and cool? started her up ,ran to temp ,but again within 15 t 20 mins the ecu was untouchable!!....but as before it still" didnt cut out!!!!....
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It only ever happened on really hot days as well
...yes you may be on to something there midden?...i did notice i had to let it cool a few mins before it would start?....
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To CRH
If it's that hot there's too much current going through it.
Therefore it is likely that something is allowing current to go to earth after it's been through the ECU.
A short circuit of sorts.
Stab in the dark, but, the wiring is subject to the most stress through movement when it exits the frame and goes to the steering head.
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To CRH
If it's that hot there's too much current going through it.
Therefore it is likely that something is allowing current to go to earth after it's been through the ECU.
A short circuit of sorts.
Stab in the dark, but, the wiring is subject to the most stress through movement when it exits the frame and goes to the steering head.
...thanks for that paul!..you could be right there matey?..seems its only going to do it when ime on the move?...like ive said it wont bloody do it stationary!!..going to strip the lot down today and see what i can find :rolleyes ...
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As always when there are electrical problems, it's well worth checking the connectors make decent contact and the harness hasn't chafed through anywhere, but it's hard to see how an external short circuit could cause the ignition unit to get excessively hot when the engine runs normally.
If the supply volts are OK then it's overheating is most likely due to an internal failure… though it would be unusual, they're extremely reliable.
I'd jump at red98's offer, substitution is the easiest way to prove whether the ignition box is the culprit.
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As always when there are electrical problems, it's well worth checking the connectors make decent contact and the harness hasn't chafed through anywhere, but it's hard to see how an external short circuit could cause the ignition unit to get excessively hot when the engine runs normally.
If the supply volts are OK then it's overheating is most likely due to an internal failure… though it would be unusual, they're extremely reliable.
I'd jump at red98's offer, substitution is the easiest way to prove whether the ignition box is the culprit.
....yes fazerider if i dont get anywhere with re,doing the connectors i think i will take up pauls offer?...what is bothering me now is, has all this high temp going through the box done damage long term?...and yes it is odd the engine running normaly isnt it?.....like i said previously today ime goin right through it!!..thanks for your input ;)
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morning clive....offer still stands,just let me know ;)
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morning clive....offer still stands,just let me know ;)
....morning paul!..thanks for that matey i will let u know the verdict later?.....or will i? :( ....
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ok, chkd over all visible connectors ,parted them sprayed with wd40 all good and all looking like new?..although its a 2002 bike its only clocked up 6500 miles and was told before i had it ,it hadnt seen rain or ever been jet washed!!....and on closer inspection i would say he was being truthful?...the only thing i did find where several wires scattered around the loom not doing anything :rolleyes ..all chkd out dead!!...think he had a alarm removed at some point ;) .....took out the ecu no cracks or any smells of burning etc!!...plug again in good condition but gave it the wd40 anyway!!...basically every plug and part i came across where in as new condition!!..(not as this helps me much}...there was a little bit of green" around the starter solinoid where the live bolts on so stripped that and cleaned it!..battery connections clean and tight!..fuses and holders clean and good!...anyway thats as far as i got today!..in the morning going to take off the faring and check all wiring around and see if anything shows up there!!
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no no no.......ecu hot means one thing and one thing only.......that side is cooked !! now get a spatula and flip it over before it gets cremated ya bozo ! oh and hello big Clive....hows ya bits? :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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no no no.......ecu hot means one thing and one thing only.......that side is cooked !! now get a spatula and flip it over before it gets cremated ya bozo ! oh and hello big Clive....hows ya bits? :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
....ade!!...where ya bin ya wizard :b ......good t hear from you!...so you think its grilled then?..pauls got a spare for me to try so think ile be takin up his offer? ;) ....what you been up to then matey?...not heard owt from you in weeks!!....we miss the crazey banter mate dont leave it so long next time?....oh and morris? love ya new add!! :lol ......that horse reminds me of me ex!!...she allways had a...long face" :rolleyes ..
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whooooooooopppppdooooooooo.........morris is back,bike problems,silly posts.........aaaarrrrrr just like the good old days :lol :lol :lol
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A piece of advice, do not replace the ECU with a known good one if you have not determined the reason for the problem. If there is a wiring fault you will end up with 2 blown ECUs. It would be best to try the possible faulty one in a working bike first.
It may not necessarily be a short circuit in the wiring, it could just as easily be a bad earth and the ECU trying to find another way to earth.
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A piece of advice, do not replace the ECU with a known good one if you have not determined the reason for the problem. If there is a wiring fault you will end up with 2 blown ECUs. It would be best to try the possible faulty one in a working bike first.
It may not necessarily be a short circuit in the wiring, it could just as easily be a bad earth and the ECU trying to find another way to earth.
....yes thanks for that unfazed ;) ....like fazerider said ecu" are normaly very reliable and rarely go wrong!!..not given up checking over the wiring yet and today taking faring off to chk front end?..like you say mabe a bad earth?..red98 as got a spare i can try but like you say.no point just swapping it just t fk that one up!!
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:agree .....yep....have a good poke around and see what you find ;)
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well after several hours of poking about the wiring and connectors etc,..think i may have come across the problem?..the kill switch will not budge :rolleyes ...and after having me snout up to it,smells like its been burning!!...now i would imagine that there be a link to the ecu somewhere along the miles of wiring, so could this be my problem??? :rolleyes .....is it shorting it out somehow?..being the reason why its starting to cook!!!...any ideas?
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does red have a spare switch unit is the question .............
or can you bypass the switch altogether as a temp measure
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does red have a spare switch unit is the question .............
or can you bypass the switch altogether as a temp measure
....mabe yes?..i will have a look later and take it appart!! had a hospital app, so had t drop off it for a while!...but its well and truly fkd!!..and defo been hot you can smell it :rolleyes ...i will ask reds m/c parts store if he has one in stock!! ;) ....think this may be the start of my trouble?
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I'd be surprised if it's the source of the problem.
The current through the kill switch is normally not very large, it supplies 12v to the coils and the ignition cut-out relay. A fault with it could cause the sparks to die, but I can't think how it would make the ignition unit overheat. It's possibly an indication of the route that the excess current is taking though, do the coils get hot too? Of course, if one coil gets hot and the other doesn't, that could be the cause of the problem, though it's usual to have a duff coil that still provides a decent spark. My money's still on the ignition unit.
The pong isn't really coming from the main light switch is it? That supplies a high current so slight contact resistance would easily result in overheating and a burning smell in the same area.
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I'd be surprised if it's the source of the problem.
The current through the kill switch is normally not very large, it supplies 12v to the coils and the ignition cut-out relay. A fault with it could cause the sparks to die, but I can't think how it would make the ignition unit overheat. It's possibly an indication of the route that the excess current is taking though, do the coils get hot too? Of course, if one coil gets hot and the other doesn't, that could be the cause of the problem, though it's usual to have a duff coil that still provides a decent spark. My money's still on the ignition unit.
The pong isn't really coming from the main light switch is it? That supplies a high current so slight contact resistance would easily result in overheating and a burning smell in the same area.
...mmmm?..see what you mean there fazerider!..going to strip the unit down later and will have a close look at it?..also i will chk on the coils! ;) ...thanks for that!
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Since the kill switch wiring and lights wiring are in the same switch unit and folow the same route to the loom it is possible that damage to the wiring could be the cause of the problem. The current in the Kill Switch circuit is in mAmps, whereas the current in the lighiting circuit is in Amps and and connecting together of both circuits would have serious consequnces for the Kill Switch, Starter cut circuit and the ECU.
Follow the wiring back from the switch to the connector box under the tank to see if there is any problems of insulation wear or damage which could result in the two circuit coming together.
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hi clive,sorry mate got no spare switch gear........sounds like you getting closer to the problem ;) ...nothing too serious at the hospital i hope ...
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hi clive,sorry mate got no spare switch gear........sounds like you getting closer to the problem ;) ...nothing too serious at the hospital i hope ...
.....hi paul, think the culprit as been found?...stripped the switchgear down tonight and its fkd!!..all melted together inside!!...looks like its the light switch that was at fault?..fazerider mentioned it earlier and it looks like he was spot on ;) ...and i think ive found out why :rolleyes ....some twat previously" had put 100watt bulbs in the headlights :( ...and seeing i run with lights on all the time i think it as overloaded the switchgear and fried it? didnt notice the other day but my headlights had packed up!! the switch itself was moving but not moving the inner bits!! they where toast!...so now ive got to sort out the mess and replace the unit and hopefully it should be ok? :rolleyes ...just a bit bothered about the ecu though? will it have done any long term damage or have i been lucky???....oh and it doesnt get much better?...just been scanned for prostrate cancer today!! got to go again tuesday for camera up me ..jackseye :'(
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unfazed it looks like you was right too?...looks like you said and the wiring had fazered together ;) ....cant find anything else wrong so think we cracked it men ;) ...thanks!
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Wow. It'll be fuse 2 playing up. Had that on mine. Plus fuse 3 gets hot and melts arond the terminals if 100w bulbs are used. Swap fuse 2 and try it, squeeze the terminals if it is loose
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hi clive........not a fan of these high watt bulbs got to put extra strain on the wiring etc....iam sure i dont have the switch gear but will still look through my spares mountain,i`ll be surprised if the ecu is focced as they are tough old things,as mentioned i have a spare that your welcome to but replacing the switch and checking the temp on the ecu will soon tell you...and give you peace of mind that you have found the fault rather than masking it..
i wish you well for tuesday,nhs gets lots of stick,but do a fantastic job,your in safe hands matey .......rather you than me though :\ [size=78%] [/size]
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thanks for that paul ;) ....not one of my favourite places (spent 22months in one in 73)...bike hit me head on, on a bend and put me through a stone farmhouse wall.his front wheel hit my engine on rd250...trouble was my right foot was there :rolleyes ....he and a mate of mine following me wasnt as lucky though!! :( ....killed them both!!...police had been chasing him for several miles and where only feet behind him when he hit me!!!!......any way enuf of that shit!!....going to see if i can get it running later up to temp to see what that ecu,s doing...will let you know later!! :rolleyes
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bloody hell matey.......got to look after yourself you aint getting any younger :rolleyes .....good luck with the test,will keep an eye on forum for results ;)
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bloody hell matey.......got to look after yourself you aint getting any younger :rolleyes .....good luck with the test,will keep an eye on forum for results ;)
....hey"...not only me thats getting older :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek ....its ya BIRTHDAY..ya old git!!!! who would a thought it hey?.....71...yet in your pici ya only look in ya 60"S......... :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin :rollin
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cheeky bastid :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol get back out to the garage and sort those sparks out :lol
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ok, after bypassing the burnt out kill switch have now got her up and running !...so whilst she is warming up ime having a cuppa!!....will know in bt 15mins if its a cure or not :rolleyes .....
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ok gooood news :) .......ecu only getting slightly warm thats after nearly 45mins idling....think :rolleyes ...its going to be ok?....just got to get a r/h switch unit to double chk nothing else is lurking?....oh and if thers any of you out there thinking of fitting 100watt bulbs?....my advice ;) ...DONT!!!!!.....
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well done old man....will keep an eye out for a new switch ;)
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well done old man....will keep an eye out for a new switch ;)
....cheers ..son :D ....
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well done old man....will keep an eye out for a new switch ;)
....cheers ..son :D ....
:lol :lol thats my boy :lol :lol
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Well so much for my theory… totally wrong!
I'm baffled as to exactly how it caused the ignition unit to overheat, perhaps the heavily loaded lighting circuit dragged the supply volts to the coils down. If the unit is clever it might increase the dwell time to compensate, but without a circuit diagram of the innards that's just guesswork.
Anyway, I'm glad you solved it. :thumbup
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Well so much for my theory… totally wrong!
I'm baffled as to exactly how it caused the ignition unit to overheat, perhaps the heavily loaded lighting circuit dragged the supply volts to the coils down. If the unit is clever it might increase the dwell time to compensate, but without a circuit diagram of the innards that's just guesswork.
Anyway, I'm glad you solved it. :thumbup
....its not 100% yet fazerider?....still got to get a new switch unit and connect it up!! yes its proved the fault is there in that region and yes it does look like it was the high wattage bulbs at fault?....but i dont know yet if anything else is fkd do i? :rolleyes ....if its been contained in that switch unit fine? but i havnt looked any further into the loom for any more damage yet? i could still have more burnt wiring yet?...
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fazer put back together minus switch gear!...should be here thursday ebay £10.00...cheap fix if thats all it is? :rolleyes ...run out today 20miles not missed a beat!! ecu nice and cool ;) ...100watt bulbs hit with hammer!!...replaced with std...
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just wired up new switch unit!...after sorting out burnt wiring etc !!....fitted correct headlight bulbs :rolleyes ....going out for a run now to make sure its sorted!!.....been running for twenty mins now and ecu still cool so hopefully its fixed :rolleyes .....
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looking good clive.........fingers crossed :)
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running spot on !!..ecu cool ;) ....headlights working, indicators working left and right!!...BUT..not on 4way :rolleyes ...so back t the fkn bench!! :'( .....
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good god man......you want it all you, dontcha...penny and dat bun. whinging old tart. just get on with it pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze. ( glad its sorted matey ;) ) xxx just for you !
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by 4-way do you mean hazzards.........old morris getting a bit lovey dovey,has barrrrrrbra given him the big E :lol
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good god man......you want it all you, dontcha...penny and dat bun. whinging old tart. just get on with it pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeze. ( glad its sorted matey ;) ) xxx just for you !
.... ade ya big old pussycat doll ya? :) .....no am not whingin? am pissed off!!....just when ya think ya cracked it?..sumat else crops up!! :rolleyes .....fkn hazards playin up now!!....anyway enuf a that shit?....hows ya dick hangin donkey boy :b ....XXXXX n these are f you lamb chop!! :b ......
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by 4-way do you mean hazzards.........old morris getting a bit lovey dovey,has barrrrrrbra given him the big E :lol
....yes paul me fkn hazards now not workin!! :'( .....chkd fuses n that they ok!! so ???//......n yes atb,s being bit sheepish bt baabs ya think??....nice t know he still wants sex with me though int it? :b ........
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hes always up for a bit of lamb bashing :lol .....could it be a dodgy switch,could you strip the old one and swap it over ? ;)
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hes always up for a bit of lamb bashing :lol .....could it be a dodgy switch,could you strip the old one and swap it over ? ;)
.....no wrong side isnt it?....hazards on left hand!!....dont think its related to this surely? :rolleyes .....sprayed it with wd no diff!!...ile strip it down later n have a look at it?...ps keep hold of that one on cristos in case? ;) ....miss the banter with morris dont you? :( ........
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hes always up for a bit of lamb bashing :lol .....could it be a dodgy switch,could you strip the old one and swap it over ? ;)
.....no wrong side isnt it?....hazards on left hand!!....dont think its related to this surely? :rolleyes .....sprayed it with wd no diff!!...ile strip it down later n have a look at it?...ps keep hold of that one on cristos in case? ;) ....miss the banter with morris dont you? :( ........
doh,dont listen to me :o ....christos is a box eye,so no hazzards.....will still look tonight though :lol ..................yep ,hes not as chatty as he used to be,he thinks hes a bit better than us foccers,we know different though ;)
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Mine's a boxeye, i've got hazards! :thumbup
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hes always up for a bit of lamb bashing :lol .....could it be a dodgy switch,could you strip the old one and swap it over ? ;)
.....no wrong side isnt it?....hazards on left hand!!....dont think its related to this surely? :rolleyes .....sprayed it with wd no diff!!...ile strip it down later n have a look at it?...ps keep hold of that one on cristos in case? ;) ....miss the banter with morris dont you? :( ........
doh,dont listen to me :o ....christos is a box eye,so no hazzards.....will still look tonight though :lol ..................yep ,hes not as chatty as he used to be,he thinks hes a bit better than us foccers,we know different though ;)
.....paul ade may be able to pull the..WOOL..over baabs eyes but not over ours matey!! ;) ...is it cus we white n he,s from wales a sumat?....OR is he just playing hard to get??? :rolleyes
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Mine's a boxeye, i've got hazards! :thumbup
....trying to make me jealous are we darrsi?... :'(
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Mine has hazards too and its also a Boxeye ^^
Pretty sure it was added for the '00-01 models, the '98-99 models don't have it - same with the time on the clocks ;)
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hes always up for a bit of lamb bashing :lol .....could it be a dodgy switch,could you strip the old one and swap it over ? ;)
.....no wrong side isnt it?....hazards on left hand!!....dont think its related to this surely? :rolleyes .....sprayed it with wd no diff!!...ile strip it down later n have a look at it?...ps keep hold of that one on cristos in case? ;) ....miss the banter with morris dont you? :( ........
doh,dont listen to me :o ....christos is a box eye,so no hazzards.....will still look tonight though :lol ..................yep ,hes not as chatty as he used to be,he thinks hes a bit better than us foccers,we know different though ;)
.....paul ade may be able to pull the..WOOL..over baabs eyes but not over ours matey!! ;) ...is it cus we white n he,s from wales a sumat?....OR is he just playing hard to get??? :rolleyes
ah....i see your on first name terms with "baabs" baaaarrrrrrrbra........you want to tell me something :rolleyes :rolleyes
ok...ok...ok i got that wrong as well,christos bike does have hazzards :o .....my 98 600 does not,so i addad 2 to 2 and got five,thinking all box eyes are the same :o :o :o :o .......thanks for putting me right chaps
not checked if switch works yet as that dozy frenchman has taken the keys with him :lol :lol :lol looks faded but undamaged ;)
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well had me switch to bits and proded about with me meter and everthing chks out!!..according to meter the switch is working :rolleyes ....so what else could it be?....if it was the relay it would do it on l/right would it not??...
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well had me switch to bits and proded about with me meter and everthing chks out!!..according to meter the switch is working :rolleyes ....so what else could it be?....if it was the relay it would do it on l/right would it not??...
pretty sure it uses the same relay...will have to look at wiring diagram ;)
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well had me switch to bits and proded about with me meter and everthing chks out!!..according to meter the switch is working :rolleyes ....so what else could it be?....if it was the relay it would do it on l/right would it not??...
pretty sure it uses the same relay...will have to look at wiring diagram ;)
.....Mmmmm...ile dig me haynes out and have a look then?...i have a spare off me fjr somewhere hiding in garage could always try a swap? ;) ....nothing off atb then?? :rolleyes
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ok, so swapped the flasher unit for one off me fjr!....working perfectly again now?...at least its nothing to do with the other? :rolleyes .....
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are you fully sorted now clive ?
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are you fully sorted now clive ?
......think so at the moment paul thanks! ;) .....everything is working again so just going to run it and see?..........see you had a good day at brighton?.....oh nearly f"got ?....nick crisp says to remember him to ...err...someone called ...dolly? :eek :D .........topic approaching 40"...in general!!....
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yeh .ok......it took me a while but ive just seen it......i took a battering in that thread :\ ......think your all confusing me with morris from wales ;) ......cheeky bastids,should have respect for your elders :lol
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yeh .ok......it took me a while but ive just seen it......i took a battering in that thread :\ ......think your all confusing me with morris from wales ;) ......cheeky bastids,should have respect for your elders :lol
.............well i got respect for you matey? ;) ....cheeky young focers arnt they :rolleyes .....i mean?..twinning you up with the likes of morris? :eek ...just not on bud!!.....oh forgot to mention?...pm from morris?....says can you ask paul if hes finished with my ..wellies?.... :rolleyes ....Mmmmmm?
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i`ll return them in person..........welsh bastid :lol