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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner => Topic started by: wraith600 on 24 November 2011, 06:57:31 pm

Title: gen 1 engine size
Post by: wraith600 on 24 November 2011, 06:57:31 pm
can any one help with the dimensions of the gen i engine as ime thinking of an engine swap in me 6  :evil  thx
Title: Re: gen 1 engine size
Post by: dekker555 on 24 November 2011, 07:24:42 pm
How on earth do you find a "size" for an engine? Surely you need engineering drawings to compare (if anyone has such things) or be asking if anyone else has done it or tried it already. I would have thought a far simpler and quicker solution would be to sell it and buy a thou. Best wishes with whatever you decide.
Title: Re: gen 1 engine size
Post by: ghostbiker on 24 November 2011, 10:58:31 pm
i take it all your affter is the dimensions you listed on the pics

IE:
A=
B=
etc
useing the lines you marked?
Off the top of my head i would say not a chance in hell it will fit, but i cant say i have tried lol
Title: Re: gen 1 engine size
Post by: wraith600 on 25 November 2011, 07:12:40 am
thats it ... as its never been done to my knowledge i need as much info as possible it may  be that it wont fit like a gsxr 7/11 or a b6/12 without major surgery in that case its a dead end . if it will then my 6 is allready 180kg wet add another 40 + hp and :eek:  thx for any help
Title: Re: gen 1 engine size
Post by: PaulSmith on 28 November 2011, 02:58:03 pm
Why not just get an R6 instead? 130+hp, 160KGs.
Title: Re: gen 1 engine size
Post by: wraith600 on 28 November 2011, 05:58:04 pm
Why not just get an R6 instead? 130+hp, 160KGs.



basicley i love the old skool looks  on the mk1 600  just would like a bit more power
(http://i1124.photobucket.com/albums/l568/wraith600/DSCF4028.jpg)
Title: Re: gen 1 engine size
Post by: solorider on 28 November 2011, 07:23:18 pm
You could get a fazer thou and fit a early fazer 6 fairing,probably a lot easier and you keep the looks of the 600
Title: Re: gen 1 engine size
Post by: Fazerider on 29 November 2011, 10:22:13 am
You appear to be the first person crazy enough to contemplate this.
Frankly, having taken the existing engine in and out myself a couple of times, it seems unlikely that there would be room for a bigger one.
If a thou can be squeezed in without hacksawing out inconvenient bits of chassis, the exhaust ports may well have the wrong spacing for the frame and, even if they don't, the constraint imposed by alignment of the drive sprocket could cause them to clash with the frame anyway.
A few measurements taken beforehand may prove the job to be impossible, but if you're unlucky they won't and you'll only discover something makes it so when you actually try it.
Title: Re: gen 1 engine size
Post by: PaulSmith on 29 November 2011, 04:22:17 pm
Nothing old skool about the looks of your bike, very highly tricked up I would said.

Ok, so do you want 'that sort' of look, or that 'exact' look. If 'exact' is important, consider big bore or nitrous, but if it is just that sort of look, and you are on a budget, you could consider a street fighter R6? Or you could buy a Gen1
Title: Re: gen 1 engine size
Post by: Kosmic Kartman on 29 November 2011, 08:40:27 pm
Big square peg, smallish round hole comes to mind. As mentioned exhaust headers and sprocket alignment will probably throw the biggest spanner in the works.

Nitrous is a bit impracticle for every day road use. To run Nos effectively you'll need a bottle heater, temp or pressure gauges, plus all the plumbing. This has to run at 700 - 900 psi (70F - 85F) to really get a bang for your buck. Not hot enough and the motor runs rich causing performance loss. To hot and it can burn lean and also wreck performance. It's a bit hit and miss.
Title: Re: gen 1 engine size
Post by: ghostbiker on 29 November 2011, 09:47:37 pm
turbo? :)
Title: Re: gen 1 engine size
Post by: AyJay on 29 November 2011, 09:55:06 pm
Mmmm. Wraight, there's something very Godier Genoud about that Fazer 600. I like it. I wonder if it would't be better to grab a few bits and bobs and pop them on a Gen 1.
Title: Re: gen 1 engine size
Post by: wraith600 on 30 November 2011, 05:28:50 pm
turbo? :)



it has been done with 140 hp result but finding the right turbo in good nick without buying a new one is nion imposable 


Fazer 600 turbo ratbike (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QonZj1rrrHo#)



Title: Re: gen 1 engine size
Post by: fazed600 on 30 November 2011, 08:46:06 pm
Shame the clip didn't show it running! That would suprise a few others on the road.....
Title: Re: gen 1 engine size
Post by: wraith600 on 01 December 2011, 06:53:15 am



hear you go  :D



http://www.youtube.com/user/MattBlackbike#p/u/25/jxO4-4yM9GQ (http://www.youtube.com/user/MattBlackbike#p/u/25/jxO4-4yM9GQ)


http://www.youtube.com/user/MattBlackbike#p/u/18/KltQt54rvrM (http://www.youtube.com/user/MattBlackbike#p/u/18/KltQt54rvrM)