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General => General => Topic started by: dBfazer600 on 01 September 2013, 12:29:49 am
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When, why and what was it you did or did not like.
Today
An offer to purchase as they thought it was my sort of bike (I ride a :faz and need no other substitute)
1300 Honda Pan Europe
the most boring bike that I raised a leg to. Honestly 1300cc of mellowness that made me frown after the initial 3 mile run out. Its a good job I had my Bro's son with me on my :faz that I mugged him for.
1300 Honda Pan Europe = No smiles
Daz
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Had a go of a friends Honda nc700x or whatever it's called.
It wasn't a bad bike and you certainly can't complain about the mpg but foc me it was boring... It's the bike equivalent of a 1.4 diesel fiesta... not bad, but very dull. I was very happy to jump back on my fazer after that.
Chris
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I was given a trimuph cafe racers as a curtosy bike it only had a few hundred miles on it black chrome very sleek clipons the works
it was bloody awful uncomfortable noisy handle like the wheels were made of concrete I had it for two days , I couldnt wait to give it back !
that was about 2004
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Got to be a penny farthing...It's a long way down when you fall off....And you will !
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I rode a scooter once.
Just once. Think it was a Vespa 150.
Most dangerous pile of unwieldy crap I have ever had the (dis)pleasure to throw a leg over. It was like it knew I was a proper motorcyclist and therefore wanted to kill me. :b
Full respect to people who ride these things and enjoy it. Very brave.
Scared me shitless :eek
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Hired an Aprilia 50cc 'ped on Symi a few months ago. Not god-awful, but far from great!
Scratch that, the worst bike I ever rode was the first - the (very!) clapped out YBR on which I did my CBT. Talk about the gearbox from the stoneage! :eek
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Hired a 7 year old Hardly Dangerous for a 7 week Great Pacific Highway & Bush ride out in Australia .. Engine was so bad (until I paid to get it rebuilt in week 2) that the crankshaft was in two halves :eek when the guy opened it up!
If it had 'let go' on the move it could have killed us both. Took us 5 weeks to do the 2.500 miles half of it on rainforest dirt tracks or sand and rock desert .. totally crazy .. but quite an adventure.
The brand new UK based Pan European was not much better .. over 12 STONE heavier than a Gen 1 .. yes really !
Stay Safe .. stick with the Den 1 .. best all rounder ever!
Polar Bear. Spain (over 50 bikes in more than 50 years)
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In my very limited experience of riding, it has to be a either a Kawasaki ZXR400 or a Suzuki GS500.
I sampled my riding school's GS during my direct access for the crack, not that I was ever going to take the test on a 500. Took me 20 yards to realise it wasn't for me.
Once I passed, I had a spin on my mate's ZXR and had the same opinion just as quick.
Nothing really wrong with them per se, apart from being far too small for me.
When I sat on the ZXR it felt like my heels were touching my arse and my elbows were touching my knees in typical sports bike fashion.
Riding the GS was pretty much the same except my back was more upright, just as cramped though. :\
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400 Superdream. I bought it to use as a winter hack, but everything gave up at once - clutch, cam chain. God, that thing used to wobble round the corners! I took it to a local stealer and said what will you give me for it?
We don't really want it mate.
Come on, I don't want much.
No, really, we're not interested.
Well, I'm not riding it home.
£50?
Done!
I once test rode a 2nd hand GS850G, cos I needed a bike but didn't have much dosh. Heavy, slow, totally uninspiring - like driving a bus. I bought a 350 Powervalve instead - a brilliant move!
And I too once rode a 125 scooter. I kept grabbing the brake cos I was used to having a clutch. Yeah, those things are wobbly! I have since sworn that when scooters are the only thing I can ride, it's time to give up 2 wheels...
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Got a few for different reasons :rolleyes
GSWR1000 K5...........most uncomfortable thing ever! (but I am old lol) awesome engine though
BMW800ST ........most boring ride ever!
Bergman 400 Scoot........Very scary lol don't feel right not having something between your legs :\ :lol
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........Very scary lol don't feel right not having something between your legs :\ :lol
:eek
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Harley sportster sport 1200 - 6 month old bike.
Front brakes were pure crap, no stopping power at all.
Rear shocks also bottomed out at every opportunity even with pre load up to max, I weighed around 14 stone at the time so this shouldn't have been an issue.
Engine was the new rubber mounted model which was supposed to better dampen out the vibes from the previous models, I think I'am still shaking 2 years later!
Pulling in the clutch was unbelievably difficult and was a killer in town.
Not for me thanks!
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Aprillia Futura. Its one of those quirky bikes which I find good looking. Its comfy as an arm chair, big effective screen, and ace riding position.
Its got the worst fuel injection ever! Trying to dial in the throttle for a bend, you start to turn the throttle until the engine responds, more, and more, and more, until your at almost 1/2 a twist, already in the corner and leaning over Then BANG!!! About 80 horsepower hits the rear wheel! It was never the same ammount of twist to dial in the power, and in the wet it was quite scary. its just a quirk of the bike apparently. :-[
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Hmmm, interesting question. I have had too many bikes to remember, but I can't recall a bad one really. They all had their own good and bad points, depending on what i wanted at the time. For example, my vn1500 was awesome for cruising and posing, but shit on fuel economy or off roading lol, my crf250l is a cracking little green laner but is unstable on motorways at over 80, my fazers were brilliant all rounders but slow compared to my gixer11, my cx500 rat was brilliant for rallies and dumping overnight infields ccar parks etc but didnt handle too well, rgv250 went like stink and handled like a dream but was a bit cramped..... the list goes on, all bikes have their own merits and limitations.
Even the little chinky 50cc scooter that was in the family for a good few years... it was slow, unstable, ugly, hard to start, fragile plastics and just generally shit, BUT .... it only used £1.30 of fuel a week to get me to work and back every day!!!! Tax was £15 and insurance was £60 fully comp.
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Most boring bike I have ridden was an FJR1300 - bored me to tears - comfy etc... But no spark when riding it.
Seeing above posters - I rode a Vespa 125 in Tuscany and absolutely loved it! Haha I am seriously considering getting one as well as my FZ1!
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Worst bike I ever rode was a Buell Lightning - gearbox and engine were sooo terrible... Never again.
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^^^^ interesting, my buell ulysses was one of the best bikes ive ridden! Engine sounded lovely, pulled like a train in every gear, it was like riding a dumper truck on steriods! Shame it was so expensive to run really or I might have kept it.
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Had an unfaired Bandit 650 as a courtesy bike for a few months, the engine was OK but I just didn't take to the bike...
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Hmmm, interesting question. I have had too many bikes to remember, but I can't recall a bad one really. They all had their own good and bad points, depending on what i wanted at the time. For example, my vn1500 was awesome for cruising and posing, but shit on fuel economy or off roading lol, my crf250l is a cracking little green laner but is unstable on motorways at over 80, my fazers were brilliant all rounders but slow compared to my gixer11, my cx500 rat was brilliant for rallies and dumping overnight infields ccar parks etc but didnt handle too well, rgv250 went like stink and handled like a dream but was a bit cramped..... the list goes on, all bikes have their own merits and limitations.
Even the little chinky 50cc scooter that was in the family for a good few years... it was slow, unstable, ugly, hard to start, fragile plastics and just generally shit, BUT .... it only used £1.30 of fuel a week to get me to work and back every day!!!! Tax was £15 and insurance was £60 fully comp.
Like that Jon, you're obviously a real "glass-half-full" kinda guy!
Fizzy, got to ride Exups today, and it proved what I always suspected about blue ones: S----L----O----W. :rollin
To give him his due tho', he's a good guitarist - get a different colour bike Pete, and you'll be complete!
Back to subject - RG500 as a motorway commuter bike - not a recommended use for it!
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The only go I've had on a sports bike was on a ZX7 being tall as soon as I set off I got cramp in my leg went to put my foot down and my shoe lace was caught on the gear change, nearly dropped it, ok I shouldn't have tried riding with trainers on but that was the end of my sports bike test ride about 400yds,
The worst bike brakes was on a 1950's Royal Enfield Bullet 500, you could stand on the rear brake and it would only slow you down and the front wasn't much better to say it was a twin sided one.
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exup's fazer thou :lol
I'll second that :lol
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Suzuki TL1000s
had the weird rear shock set up.
Had a go on a mates, all went well till I tried to exit a bend, the wallow and tankslapper that followed, nearly ended with me in a hedge :eek
A week later he crashed it :rolleyes
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Probably the SV650. Wouldn't be had for a first bike I suppose, but it was underpowered, underbraked and very basically suspended. Did have a sweet chassis though, and once my mate had GSXR-D the brakes and suspension it was a lot better - but still bloody slow!
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Nick's fart lol
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The absolute worst for me would be a Vespa or my sons moped. Both had silly little wheels with no real stability.
For bigger bikes, GarethG's Enfield Bullet was a bit weird but his Goldwing had to be the worst big bike I have ridden.
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Actually, now you mention it, my mate had an sv650, and on the few occasions when I rode it I found it totally uninspiring, underpowered and it looked and sounded naff.
sv650 then. The worst bike ive ever ridden... still better than a car though
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my old cx500 would qualify for both worst and best. it just didnt handle and weaved round the bends, but i bought it with 16000 on the clock and it died on 88000. just went on and on. a mate's buell didnt go down too well as the rake is so steep, it fell into bends too quick.
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I found the Honda Varadero 1000 a truly awful bike that scared the sh*te out of me in high winds.
2nd would be the Honda CB250 I did 30k miles on in the early 90's. "Interesting" handling would be an understatement.
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Honda CB50J it was a restricted 50cc 4 stroke, 5 speeds of slow the brakes were crap and it handled like a drunk fat bloke on roller skates :lol :lol
Mark
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Got a P Reg GS 500 as a loner a couple of weeks ago. Scared the crap out of me and thought I'd end up pushing it back as it really disliked water and I got caught in a rainstorm. New respect for couriers that have to ride them.
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I used to love the handling on my old cx500! Being a shaft drive with a v twin engine mounted sideways it certainly behaved 'interestingly' seemed to remember giving it a handfull of throttle coming out of a long right hander and the whole bike kinda twisted lol. The back wheel sort of dug in and felt like it was trying to overtake the front by laying on its side and coming underneath! Loads of torquesteer made me feel like I was cocking my arsecheek up to squeeze out a fart everytime I cracked the throttle open! :rollin
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I called my cx 'britney' cos (at the time) it was 26 years old, not too pretty, fun to ride but always breaking down in public.
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1250 Bandit was pretty nasty, tested an FZ6 when they first came out, totally useless bike, never been so glad to get back on the FZS. Had an ER5 courtesy bike once, that was horrible too.
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1250 Bandit was pretty nasty, tested an FZ6 when they first came out, totally useless bike, never been so glad to get back on the FZS. Had an ER5 courtesy bike once, that was horrible too.
:lurk Any minute now.....
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1250 Bandit was pretty nasty, tested an FZ6 when they first came out, totally useless bike, never been so glad to get back on the FZS. Had an ER5 courtesy bike once, that was horrible too.
:lurk Any minute now.....
What, we'll twig he's on an FJR? :lol :lol
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1250 Bandit was pretty nasty, tested an FZ6 when they first came out, totally useless bike, never been so glad to get back on the FZS. Had an ER5 courtesy bike once, that was horrible too.
:lurk Any minute now.....
What, we'll twig he's on an FJR? :lol :lol
Bloody hell, Christo, there's only so much popcorn I can eat! :lol
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1250 Bandit was pretty nasty, tested an FZ6 when they first came out, totally useless bike, never been so glad to get back on the FZS. Had an ER5 courtesy bike once, that was horrible too.
:lurk Any minute now.....
What, we'll twig he's on an FJR? :lol :lol
Bloody hell, Christo, there's only so much popcorn I can eat! :lol
Then gimme. I'm hungry. :lol :lol
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The FJR went about 6 months ago :)
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The worst bike I ever rode simultaneously gave me the experience of vertigo and sea sickness. I'll stop there, since a true gentleman never tells ;)
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The worst bike I ever rode simultaneously gave me the experience of vertigo and sea sickness. I'll stop there, since a true gentleman never tells ;)
:rollin
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a Harley sportster i had when mine was in for its second service the thing was brand new felt like it had wood for brakes no suspension wnd the gear box from a dumper truck :lol
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no bikes I have had have been " bad"...my least favourite was the zx9 c1 model. A bike which for me excelled at nothing. It was a sportsbike which was slower than the rest , it didnt handle that well, wasnt comfy, and didnt inspire me at all. I kept it for 3 months, which is a sad endictment for any bike I have had.The airbox howl was nice, but other than that I really regretted buying it. I had read a lot of reports about how good it was, but it was sluggish up to 6k, and did not have a big top end. My gen1 fazer feels like twice the bike tbh. :)
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Not ridden all that many but the worst would be an ER6F, then probably the Suzuki Vanvan I did my CBT on. Best would be the Blackbird followed closely by the FZS :)
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I rode a Tomas 50cc through a particularly snowy winter some time around 1994/5.
It looked a lot like this - not my vid but same bike and similar conditions:
Tomos Automatic A3 snow drift (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmc1LkXyMVU#ws)
I fell off many times but never at very high speed!
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My worst bike has got to be a 1978 XS250, it was gutless, drank fuel like no tomorrow and the only way to get any speed was to thrash it within an inch of its life, I was going to buy it off a mate but in the end I bought a suzuki GT380
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gt 380..that brings bk memories!!...had one briefly good bike stonking engine, went and bought a kettle!!..now that did like fuel? :rolleyes ....dont think i ever saw 20mpg!!
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Had to deliver a Harley 1340 Soft Tail Fat Boy to Paris and rather than trailering it and getting a return on the ferry for car and trailer, the cheapest option was to ride it over and fly back. I'd ridden it very briefly taking it for an MoT over here but just over 300 miles on it was interesting to say the least. 90 miles before having to switch over to reserve and look for a filling station, the gearbox from a JCB, hope and pray brakes, the weirdest riding position ever and at anything over 50 you are the air brake so there is a distinct danger of dislocating your shoulders if you try to go any faster. It pissed with rain for the last 120 miles and the rain runs down the tank, settles on your balls and no matter how good your waterproofs, are it comes through eventually. I ended up riding with my feet on the pillion pegs, laying on the tank with my hands up above my head somewhere.
Never again and I've no idea why people like the things.
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I have had some bad bikes in my time as well as good ones but the worst has to be a MZ250 a so called mate had one and raved about it so I bought one for a winter hack what a piece of shit it was so unreliable and it cost me £1400 in shares as I took the money out my account to buy it just as the Halifax was bought over and gave every one free shares that had over £150 in their account I only had £120 left in it :eek :'(
Stevie
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no bikes I have had have been " bad"...my least favourite was the zx9 c1 model. A bike which for me excelled at nothing. It was a sportsbike which was slower than the rest , it didnt handle that well, wasnt comfy, and didnt inspire me at all. I kept it for 3 months, which is a sad endictment for any bike I have had.The airbox howl was nice, but other than that I really regretted buying it. I had read a lot of reports about how good it was, but it was sluggish up to 6k, and did not have a big top end. My gen1 fazer feels like twice the bike tbh. :)
You must've had a bloody bad one mate - they top out quicker than all the other bikes of their years (both the R1 and the Blade - the GSX-R1000 was the first bike that beat it top speed wise), they do need the rears lifted to handle properly as they are rather flat as standard. They are a tad sluggish below 6k revs (compared to other big bore bikes), but use the revs properly and they bloody scream - flat out mine would pull away from my dad's FZ1 at any speeds over about 90mph, up to that point it was a dead heat but to be honest it came on tap properly in second at about 100!
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Think it was a Vespa .or something shit like that there all the some to me scooters that is just bad bad bad ooo i still remember that day :'(