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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: reillypadraig on 13 August 2013, 09:06:57 am
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Just as an off topic, I just wanted to get a broad opinion on how all of you cope with wearing glasses in your helmet, just on if they bug ya just abit of if ya put the helmet on a little awkward and Ur ear hurts the whole trim, or do you wear contacts especially for this purpose???
I'm asking this because I don't wear contacts and its coming back into the glasses fogging up season again soon :rolleyes
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Contacts for me, obviously no fogging but more importantly a much bigger peripheral field of view. For fogging try FogTech - http://www.visorvision.co.uk/shop/index.php?cPath=25 (http://www.visorvision.co.uk/shop/index.php?cPath=25) - I use it on my visor after my pinlock committed suicide and it does the job. Need a new helmet though with a pinlock as that's just fit and forget, until it falls off of course ;)
Cheers,
Rob
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Lol, I was planning on getting contacts to try them out, brother has them but he says they are a pain, can fall out by times and you might forget yourself if looking at someone welding, then your fuked, lol.
It's not so much the vision but my glasses themselves that fog, last winter I had to leave the visor up.....all the time. Everytime I put it down it fogged up, also, I seem some shark helmets with a sticker on the padding just behind the visor with( easy on glasses) or some sorta crap written on it? Anyone purchase a helmet like this?
The glasses do create a small reflective glare by times, not sure if many experience this or does everyone have tinted visors?
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Get a pinlock anti fog insert. Cut out some pieces to fit ur specs. Stick em on. Job done. Hehe
Jokin aside...have u heard of OPTIFOG ?
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I've had a Nitro N500 helmet for a few years and i don't have any probs with the glasses, other than if they do happen to get a bit of rain on them, if for some reason i have to lift the visor (which is tinted).
My glasses are varifocal with reactolite lenses and i don't really have much of a problem with them misting up, although in really crappy weather, i use the car.
G ; )
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Had my eyes lasered......sorted :)
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iam on a free contact lens trail at the moment,had to improvise on my perscription as i have a lazy eye......i know,i know goes with the rest of my body :rolleyes ......great on the bike ,just a pain putting in and taking out ;)
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Never heard of the optifog? Don't think ill get laser treatment either( darrsi show off lol). I'd say ill try the contacts out,
Just the duchinni helmet I have is the right fit for me and everything, just the padding squashes the crap outa my ear and I don't have a thin "leg" on my glasses.
a thin "leg " with the fancy crap they can put in lenses might work but ill get a supply of contacts to try out.
No-one has the squashed ear problem?
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I wear contacts virtually all the time. Dislike glasses at the best of times but they're horrible under a helmet, not for the comfort so much but because they reduce your field of view. I do however keep a pair under the seat in case I end up needing them.
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I use these, got a clear one and a slightly tinted one on two visors for summer/winter.
Only thing i will say is that you need a clean and dust free enviroment when putting it on, 'cos the double sided tape will not come off in any decent condition if you foc it up.
You work out exactly where you want it first (tape helps) then bend it from the middle, stick it down and work your way outwards.
They're very good for anti fogging, and even after a few years of wear and tear when the rain gets the better of the tape, all i did was buy some 1mm thick double sided and cut a strip 4mm wide that was long enough to shape around the whole visor in one go, then i put a small blob of clear rubber glue at the join to make it airtight and it was like new again. :D
**** They have a very slight reactolite lens in sunshine, and also filters (polarizes) headlight glare at night time, which is especially helpful if you already wear glasses too, so it will turn a star shaped glare into just a single beam. :smokin ****
http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313&_nkw=Progrip+3000+Visor+Insert&_sacat=0&_from=R40 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2047675.m570.l1313&_nkw=Progrip+3000+Visor+Insert&_sacat=0&_from=R40)
As for the squashed ear problem, i think that's literally a different make/model of crash helmet issue.
My old Shoei crash helmet had no issues at all with my glasses, but when i bought my Arai it was so fitted around the sides of my eyes i used to have to physically force my glasses on, although that could have also been the fact that it was a new lid.
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I wear contacts all the time now which is so much easier (want to get lasered one day) but when I wore glasses I used a foggy mask in my Shoei and removed the pinlock as there was no more need for it. That set-up worked really well.
Whether you wear specs or not a foggy mask can be really good on cold dark winter days, keeps your snout warm and you can see better at night without a pinlock insert and it's starring of headlights etc.
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What most folk that don't wear glasses misunderstand, is that its the glasses lenses that fog up, not the visor!
I haven't got the option of contacts as I only need glasses for driving, and work at a p.c. so can't wear them all the time. This means I have to choose my glasses wisely, i.e. large lenses for a good field of view and straight arms so I can put them on easier.
Regarding fogging up, I always have my visor open a crack, which minimises it but doesn't get rid completely.
However, I find that the misting comes from my breath, and when I tried a Shark Raw helmet on last week, the goggles completely isolated my eyes which I thought would really sort it.
Problem is I didn't like the lack of peripheral vision with them and the sales guy said they're a bit shit in the wet, which kind of defeats the object as I don't fog up in the dry. :\
Oh, and since posting I've just googled Foggy Mask. That looks like it'd be the best thing rather than a new helmet! :D
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Oh, and since posting I've just googled Foggy Mask. That looks like it'd be the best thing rather than a new helmet! :D
Got to say they worked really well for me, only stopped using them because my current Arai lid has a coolmax lining which the velcro on the foggy doesn't stick to! If you have a normal fabric lining it should work a treat.
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Had my eyes lasered......sorted :)
Me too.
Personally I started to find it dangerous riding around with glasses-
Couldn't take a quick glance at clocks or mirrors, and offset junctions were a nightmare as you're looking out the side of the glasses, so blurry traffic everywhere, got them lasered and was back on the bike a week later.
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I haven't looked into lasering properly but I reckon it'd be majorly expensive for me as I have a -6 or -7 prescription
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Mine was about £2500 and worth every penny!
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Mine was about £2500 and worth every penny!
£555 all in, beat that :D
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unfortunately my eyes cannot be lasered as wrong prescription, I have being wearing glasses since I was 3 and now I am 46, i still wear glasses the majority of the time, i have now been using contacts when on my bikes, i would recommend them i wish i had tried them years ago
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The fella who lasered my eyes was virtually fighting me to get near my eyes, and eventually said if i wouldn't relax then he couldn't do the surgery.
The thought of contacts makes me cringe, i simply don't like my eyes being touched, even by me, so when i saw his sausage fingers aiming for my mince pies then i couldn't help but react. :lol
That was 9 years ago, after wearing glasses for 25 years, so it was well worth the grief. :thumbup
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wore glasses most odf my life (what a relief when they started making the lenses from lighter plastic)
dont have a problem riding with them apart from once (in ireland - visor misted up. Opened it up and my glasses steamed up too - foggy/cool morning. was fooked)
tried contacts - couldnt get them in. after 45 minutes trying, I had one lens in and the other eye practically bleeding.
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Contacts take practice. I spent ages in the store trying to get the buggers out when they were making sure I could do it. After a few weeks it became second nature and was easy enough to do - now and again one of them is a pain (my left eye) as I have a slightly mis-shapen eyeball apparently :|
Definitely will look in to laser surgery but uncertain as to how well I'll cope during as I have no idea what's involved. I'm fairly relaxed with poking my eyes and although I don't mind others trying my eyes seem to have another idea and just begin to water uncontrollably :|
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Contacts take practice. I spent ages in the store trying to get the buggers out when they were making sure I could do it. After a few weeks it became second nature and was easy enough to do - now and again one of them is a pain (my left eye) as I have a slightly mis-shapen eyeball apparently :|
Definitely will look in to laser surgery but uncertain as to how well I'll cope during as I have no idea what's involved. I'm fairly relaxed with poking my eyes and although I don't mind others trying my eyes seem to have another idea and just begin to water uncontrollably :|
Surgery itself is a piece of piss, it's very quick and 100% painless process during actual surgery.
Before i had mine done they offered me a deal of two people for the price of one and my brother wasn't interested so i let that one go.
Then about a month later they offered me a cancellation for half price to be done within 2 weeks so i jumped at it.
£60 consultation fee (examination) then £495 for both eyes.
I honestly thought the price would drop as it became more popular but they've really taken advantage of it and the prices have rocketed.
I know the procedure is more advanced now but it's still a lot of money, but once it's done and paid for you won't regret it.
My brother ended up having his eyes done about 3 years later and paid around £2300 i think. :lol
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I quite often have a problem with things looking blurred through my glasses but I just take them back to the bar and get them re-filled regardless!!!
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I quite often have a problem with things looking blurred through my glasses but I just take them back to the bar and get them re-filled regardless!!!
I'll drink to that :b
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Lol, good replies, glad I'm not the only one that gets pissed of with glasses
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yep...i struggled like you DEADEYE...fitting them for the first time in the shop...had trouble seeing to put the first one in,once i had it in i could see to put the other one in :lol .....the girl in specsavers was really helpfull.they are great when on the bike if iam out all day but not worth the time fitting for a short trip to the shops ;)
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Agreed, I use them occasionally for long trips out on the bike, but more often than not I just don't bother with them anymore. I have no real issue with wearing my glasses thankfully but it would be nice to not have to
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Ive always wore glasses for the 30 years ive been riding, back in the day when you could only get your specks from very expensive opticians it was always a case of getting the specks for me first and the fit in the helmet came 2nd, gradually I learned that I need thin frames with taller lenses which made it tricky to get ones that I like to be seen in the rest of the time. But now I use an online glasses seller, you get your prescription from wherever and then order (free) 4 pairs at a time to try, my problem has always been that I have a thin head and the last glasses I had were sponge bob square pants as they were a perfect fit. Now the online seller gives all the dimensions of width height of lens and length of arm so after trying 12 pairs I now have the ones to be seen in and a perfect pair for the helmet, which are wire arms but strong enough to push on, rimless on the bottom and an oval lens that drops down low, and they are actually women's glasses !!. The problem I always had is that I push on the glasses and then they pop up on my face and don't sit right. So now I have the perfect pair and very very cheep.
Never had a problem with misting on the glasses untill I used the mouth mask that came with the hat which just directed me breath to the glasses
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Pinlock. No more fogging even with glasses. This in an Arai Chaser-V.
That and I now wear contacts - which admittedly adds up to more than glasses per year (circa £30 a month), but the money I've saved in petrol changing to a 600 fazer from a 1100 boxer twin more than covers that anyway. :)
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I've always worn glasses, last time I checked I was outside the tolerances for laser surgery due to my astigmatism. Didn't really get on with contacts so I'm stuck with specs for now. I've a got a Shoei helmet that has cut outs for specs I've also got specs with straight arms that don't rely on hooking over the ear. The Shoei has pin lock visor that prevents most of the misting.
As others point out you do need to move your head more at junctions etc so you are looking through the lens and not out the side but this isn't an issue.
The only thing I find an issue with is really dense fog that creates a film on the visor that constantly needs wiping off, without specs you would just be able to flick the visor up and blink but with specs this is no longer an option as the lenses just get coated in a fine mist. Thankfully pretty rare for fog to be that bad.
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Caberg flip front with glasses seating. Done me proud. :)
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So the glasses seating does help??
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So the glasses seating does help??
Like mad.
I had (until a little shit dropped it) an Xpeed lid, which was lighter than my everyday, flip front Caberg. In better nick too. The Xpeed hurt my ears at anything over a 30 min run. And as only spec wearers know, sore ears are AGONY. My glasses have a smallish frame too, which helps.
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Whether you wear specs or not a foggy mask can be really good on cold dark winter days, keeps your snout warm and you can see better at night without a pinlock insert and it's starring of headlights etc.
I bought a foggy mask at the weekend, and it's definitely worth the £13 I paid for it as it seems to have cut my glasses misting down a lot.
It's not perfect though, it still mists up if not adjusted properly, but it's 90% effective.
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Whether you wear specs or not a foggy mask can be really good on cold dark winter days, keeps your snout warm and you can see better at night without a pinlock insert and it's starring of headlights etc.
I bought a foggy mask at the weekend, and it's definitely worth the £13 I paid for it as it seems to have cut my glasses misting down a lot.
It's not perfect though, it still mists up if not adjusted properly, but it's 90% effective.
It's summer :lol
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Whether you wear specs or not a foggy mask can be really good on cold dark winter days, keeps your snout warm and you can see better at night without a pinlock insert and it's starring of headlights etc.
I bought a foggy mask at the weekend, and it's definitely worth the £13 I paid for it as it seems to have cut my glasses misting down a lot.
It's not perfect though, it still mists up if not adjusted properly, but it's 90% effective.
It's summer :lol
Still chilly when I leave for work at 4 in the morning. ;)
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:smokin
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i wear contacts most for bike jouneys ,when wearing glasses i find they juder up and down over 70mph distorting vision .just think of eric morcombe jiggigiling them up and down .! get the idea??
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Pinlock. No more fogging even with glasses. This in an Arai Chaser-V.That and I now wear contacts - which admittedly adds up to more than glasses per year (circa £30 a month), but the money I've saved in petrol changing to a 600 fazer from a 1100 boxer twin more than covers that anyway. :)
Caberg flip front with glasses seating. Done me proud. :)
Sorry for the 'thread from the dead' here, but thought I'd share my pinlock experiences. I bought a Caberg Duke and so my foggy mask wasn't useable, but luckily it came with a pinlock. This worked a treat for the visor at first (frigging glasses fogged up straight away - will have to find some way of attaching the foggy mask), but when the recent cold weather hit us I found the visor fogging up inside the pinlock more than outside. Turns out there's a gap between the pinlock and the visor that I couldn't get rid of.
So here's my handy tip for pinlock owners: Get a tube of clear gasket sealant and, very carefully, lay a bead around the edge of the pinlock. I held the visor in a soft jawed vice for this as the last thing you want is to slip and get sealant everywhere. Seeing as it never sets solid, it's perfect for making an air tight seal.
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Don't forget that you can adjust pinlock!
Pinlock "pins" on the visor are eccentric so by turning them you can tighten or loosen the seal between the insert and visor. You should be able to achieve a tight seal by positioning the insert correctly and adjusting correctly.
Depending on the type of pin, you might be able to adjust with a small flat blade or philips screwdriver, small spanner/socket whilst the insert is in place. If the pins are blank, they might be the type where you have to remove the insert, push and then turn the pin before refitting the insert.
Thought I'd remind folks as I've met loadsa people who weren't aware of this design feature :rolleyes Worth checking yours is adjusted correctly before going to the lengths Mr self destruct did, although I imagine that's a sure way to get a good seal too.
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dont wear glasses personally, but HJC helmets have a groove for your glasses to sit in and not push into your head
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Don't forget that you can adjust pinlock!
Pinlock "pins" on the visor are eccentric so by turning them you can tighten or loosen the seal between the insert and visor. You should be able to achieve a tight seal by positioning the insert correctly and adjusting correctly.
Depending on the type of pin, you might be able to adjust with a small flat blade or philips screwdriver, small spanner/socket whilst the insert is in place. If the pins are blank, they might be the type where you have to remove the insert, push and then turn the pin before refitting the insert.
Thought I'd remind folks as I've met loadsa people who weren't aware of this design feature :rolleyes Worth checking yours is adjusted correctly before going to the lengths Mr self destruct did, although I imagine that's a sure way to get a good seal too.
I should have mentioned I adjusted the pins the first time I got the helmet! :o
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I should have mentioned I adjusted the pins the first time I got the helmet! :o
Sorry, wasn't aiming my comment at you personally, but thought I'd mention it for the benefit of those out there who might have missed that detail (or those guilty of not reading the manual :b )
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No problem wearing glasses with any of my helmets.
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Caberg EGO no problem with glasses for me. Helmet has a flip down sun visor so good on the rare sunny days. Also has the essential Pinlock visor so no fogging.
You could get some of those memory metal spectacles that can bend so sit in any helmet nicely.
I think the armed forced have requirements somewhere that you cannot be selected for certain roles if you have had laser eye surgery. Must be something wrong with it? I would be worried about scar tissue etc..
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Caberg EGO no problem with glasses for me. Helmet has a flip down sun visor so good on the rare sunny days. Also has the essential Pinlock visor so no fogging.
You could get some of those memory metal spectacles that can bend so sit in any helmet nicely.
I think the armed forced have requirements somewhere that you cannot be selected for certain roles if you have had laser eye surgery. Must be something wrong with it? I would be worried about scar tissue etc..
I believe it may have something to do with night vision, which can affect some people who have had surgery, which is kind of weird 'cos if you lost your glasses or contacts in the field then you'd be a lot worse off.
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I use glasses all the time , as i returned to biking after a few years away now wearing glasses i found helmet choice made a difference for me.
Tried all the leading brands and settled for AGV, In the old days i used a spot of washing up liquid rubbed on the lens or visor always worked for me.
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I've just ordered a foggy mask for €19.99 off a local site, should have it tomorrow.
I have glasses but never wear them, my Shark Vision R lid has recesses for glasses so with the foggy mask I may actually throw them on and see a bit better. I'm about borderline, any worse and I would need to wear them for my license but I usually wear them in the car.
Chin curtain may have to be removed from the helmet to let that warm air out of the helmet though :o
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I've always worn glasses so it doesn't bother me one bit.
But with a bike helmet it gets annoying when you go to buy a new one and find one that fits, but the decider is if the padding will give for the glasses and if they are comfortable when you wear them. Another thing which is super annoying is when you stop at traffic lights or at a junction and your glasses fog up when you breathe. I just hold my breath for a minute lol
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I have been wearing glasses for 20 years, when I get a new set I take my helmet with me I narrow it down to a few pairs that don't make me look too stupid then try them with the helmet on. Fogging when sat at traffic lights is a pain but once on the move it soon clears.
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Might aswel give an update on this, I just got new prescription and 2 new glasses, ( thin arms around the ear) and got contacts aswel, so the days I forget about the contacts I have thin armed glasses so won't hurt my ears as much but won't stop the fogging I'm afraid, new shark helmet coming in January me thinks!
Com-on santy!!!! :D
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My 2 penneth on this subject, had my eyes lasered over 10 years ago, now wearing glasses again, I have found best solution for me with steaming up of glasses and visor is to put a bit of plain shaving foam oninside surface, then wipe clear leaving a thin film.Works each time I ride,do the same again next time. :)
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Had my eyes lasered......sorted :)
Me to, about 6 years ago!
I wore glasses for about 30 years, best thing I did was have them lasered!
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Had my eyes lasered......sorted :)
Me to, about 6 years ago!
I wore glasses for about 30 years, best thing I did was have them lasered!
You missed out this bit from your quote of gryphonogram "now wearing glasses again"
Your eyes (musles) change over your life and the lazer is a fixed moment in time as your musles were then.
One thing that always makes me think is that if one eye is not as good as the other say through injury (double image perhaps) your brain is very good at working out which eye is the correct "picture" and filters out the bad ones muck up------ so why dont you just get one eye lazered and let your brain do the rest.