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Title: scamera's ???
Post by: johnakay on 07 August 2013, 08:20:00 pm
while riding along the A64 to york doing 80mph or there about.
I notice a speed scamra on the opposite side of the dual carriage way.
it was one of them unmarked type van's and just above the drivers seat a little flap open yes seen the lenze!
now I'm not sure if the scamra was aim onto my side of the road or his.
the question is do they work like that? or do you need to be on the same side of the road for them to nab ya.
must admit I have that feeling that the bastids has got me :eek
Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: chaz on 07 August 2013, 08:34:05 pm
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Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: chaz on 07 August 2013, 08:38:42 pm
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Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: johnakay on 07 August 2013, 09:01:00 pm
don't know what speed I was doing but when I  looked down at my clock it read 75mph so my guess would be around 80mph.
look like I'm with in the limit for speed awareness course. so if I do get a nip I'll take that rout.
I don't have a fast bike but fast enough for me and my wife.
we usually ride around 60mph but we went to Matlock bath so we wanted to get to Whitby for cuppa quickly and then home..time was getting on.
we live in Stockton so it was a canny ride.
thanks for the replies and info.


I used to own a 03 Fazer 600 had that bike for 4.5 years.I still like to pop in now again to see what you lot get up to :)
I traded it in for a ER6F big mistake I just couldn't get a long with it,the seat was very uncomfortable etc
fazer I bought new- some times wished that I'd kept it but I'm very happy with what I've got now.
its Honda NC700XDCT.
Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: steviebhoy on 07 August 2013, 09:53:40 pm
If you were heading towards the camera you will be ok they don't have your number plate have a nice sleep tonight.
Stevie
Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: rustyrider on 07 August 2013, 11:18:15 pm
If it was on the other side of the road looking at traffic in the other carriageway, then it could have got you as you were riding away from it.  I once made the mistake of seeing the van but assuming as it was looking at the traffic heading towards it, I would be OK.  I wasn't.........

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Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: AdieR on 08 August 2013, 08:28:56 am
A64 - was it a single carriageway or dual carriageway section? I know with speed guns they have a nice hideaway at Rillington, and waiting up slip-roads and on flyovers on the D/C sections.

75mph, I reckon your true speed will have been 67 / 68 mph.
Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: johnakay on 08 August 2013, 09:10:15 am
A64 - was it a single carriageway or dual carriageway section? I know with speed guns they have a nice hideaway at Rillington, and waiting up slip-roads and on flyovers on the D/C sections.

75mph, I reckon your true speed will have been 67 / 68 mph.
dual carriageway.
as for speed as soon as as I saw the van I eased off.
been doing 80 most of the time'I just kept the throttle in the same position...
so going down it will speed up a little and slower going up etc.
I'll soon find out if I  get the nip or not.
hope fully my speedo will be out but what I do know at 30mph she is fairly accurate,
 well according to those boards on lamp post that light up your speeds.
Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: stevierst on 08 August 2013, 09:29:01 am
The LED speed indication boards are not accurate and always overread slightly to keep your speed down. (I only know this as my car at work has a calibrated speedo)
Your speedo will be overreading slightly, so with a bit of luck you won't be getting that NIP 8)
Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: Skippernick on 08 August 2013, 01:17:09 pm
A64 - was it a single carriageway or dual carriageway section? I know with speed guns they have a nice hideaway at Rillington, and waiting up slip-roads and on flyovers on the D/C sections.

75mph, I reckon your true speed will have been 67 / 68 mph.
dual carriageway.
as for speed as soon as as I saw the van I eased off.
been doing 80 most of the time'I just kept the throttle in the same position...
so going down it will speed up a little and slower going up etc.
I'll soon find out if I  get the nip or not.
hope fully my speedo will be out but what I do know at 30mph she is fairly accurate,
 well according to those boards on lamp post that light up your speeds.


Those LED boards are great at instant guilt, well with me it does, BUT there is one near me thats flashes 40MPH when doing 35mph in a 40. Not very accurate.
Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: Dead Eye on 08 August 2013, 04:04:20 pm
Whenever I see them my first thought is unfortunately "challenge accepted!"
Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: stevierst on 08 August 2013, 04:12:10 pm
Whenever I see them my first thought is unfortunately "challenge accepted!"
Gotta admit, there's a gatso camera about 100 metres after an led speed board in Blackpool. We used to have a competition to see who could get the highest reading on it then brake back to 30 in time for the gatso. >:D
Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: simonm on 08 August 2013, 06:15:35 pm
No point in worrying about it.  If you were nicked lesson learnt.
Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: Exupnut on 08 August 2013, 10:38:52 pm
There r some foccers on the frog and toad...... Hello.....
Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: Borderraider on 09 August 2013, 06:33:48 am
If you were doing 78 you'll be ok, 79 you're done?

Myth- 3 of us all got 3 points £60 - 76mph :-(
A64 heading home from Hull
Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: simonm on 09 August 2013, 11:19:48 am
If you were doing 78 you'll be ok, 79 you're done?

Myth- 3 of us all got 3 points £60 - 76mph :-(
A64 heading home from Hull

That's not good at all :-(  surely you can contest it somehow with Speedo calibration or something ?
Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: Borderraider on 09 August 2013, 11:58:38 am
If you were doing 78 you'll be ok, 79 you're done?

Myth- 3 of us all got 3 points £60 - 76mph :-(
A64 heading home from Hull

That's not good at all :-(  surely you can contest it somehow with Speedo calibration or something ?



No, law allows speedo to over read but not under read.
Asked about speed awareness course but not a option
Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: Fazerider on 09 August 2013, 12:13:36 pm
Whenever I see them my first thought is unfortunately "challenge accepted!"
Gotta admit, there's a gatso camera about 100 metres after an led speed board in Blackpool. We used to have a competition to see who could get the highest reading on it then brake back to 30 in time for the gatso. > :D

When a Gatso first appeared at "The Winning Post" on the A316 near Twickenham I used to enjoy riding past at exactly 40mph then as I crossed the final measurement mark on the road would accelerate as hard as possible. The bike would still be in the range of the microwave speed sensor when it exceeded the limit by enough to trigger the unit. The double flash amused me, knowing that without the corroborating evidence from the road markings their pictures were useless. :evil

Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: chaz on 09 August 2013, 01:13:57 pm
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Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: chaz on 09 August 2013, 01:34:09 pm
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Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: simonm on 09 August 2013, 01:43:34 pm
I would have thought you could use many reasons to validly excuse this small lapse of speed such as feeling tailgated and trying to move out of the vehicles way or that a vehicle was doing 65 and you made progress momentarily to overtake.
Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: Lawrence on 09 August 2013, 01:44:55 pm
FACT NORTH YORKSHIRE POLICE ALLOW 10% + 1MPH

Got anything to back up this fact?  Facts on the internet aren't always as factual as you'd think  :D
Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: Borderraider on 09 August 2013, 03:15:18 pm
If you were doing 78 you'll be ok, 79 you're done?

Myth- 3 of us all got 3 points £60 - 76mph :-(
A64 heading home from Hull

FACT NORTH YORKSHIRE POLICE ALLOW 10% + 1MPH



What road were you on? The A64 doesn't go to Hull what was the speed limit? must have been less than 70 mph

FACT- We where on the A64 and all got done for 76mph, if I hadn't just renewed my licence I would have copied and posted.
Route was indirect route home.
FACT.  You can be prosecuted for ANY speed over limit.
I don't know you, however never ever imply I'm lying
Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: Dead Eye on 09 August 2013, 03:29:26 pm
I would have thought you could use many reasons to validly excuse this small lapse of speed such as feeling tailgated and trying to move out of the vehicles way or that a vehicle was doing 65 and you made progress momentarily to overtake.

Pretty sure you'll find that the highway code says you should slow down if being tailgated :P
Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: chaz on 09 August 2013, 09:30:19 pm
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Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: richfzs on 09 August 2013, 11:40:23 pm
Chaz, your own link gives the lie to your words. Acpo guidelines say 10%+2,they also make it clear it's down to the officers discretion, which must be done consistently.  If he's decided to nick 4 guys (3? Can't remember, don't care) for the same speed, he's consistent.

Acpo guidelines are guidelines, not law, and don't (I believe) apply to scamera vans. So your "facts" are not facts, they are your opinion, which is worth, frankly, Jack Shit.
Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: johnakay on 10 August 2013, 01:28:40 pm
(((So your "facts" are not facts, they are your opinion, which is worth, frankly, Jack Shit.)))


let not fall out fellas we have enough problems to contend without bickering with each other on who's right or wrong.
Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 10 August 2013, 01:37:14 pm
I would have thought you could use many reasons to validly excuse this small lapse of speed such as feeling tailgated and trying to move out of the vehicles way or that a vehicle was doing 65 and you made progress momentarily to overtake.

Pretty sure you'll find that the highway code says you should slow down if being tailgated :P

Sometimes I think the Highway Code is full of shit. Personally what I normally try to do if being tail-gated in traffic is overtake a couple of cars and leave the twat behind. On motorways, I tend to gas it for a bit, then find a gap to pull into until said twat has gone past. Slowing down only makes the problem worse.
Giving such reasons as an excuse for speeding won't wash, I would've thought. If you're caught, you're caught. If you've been able to argue your way out of it once a ticket has been issued, I'd like to know how? (Apart from technical cock-ups on the part of the issuer, that is).
Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: richfzs on 10 August 2013, 06:19:47 pm
No falling out, just pointing out that his facts aren't facts!

To misquote the old joke, 99% of facts on the Internet are made up on the spot...
Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: Lawrence on 10 August 2013, 07:13:36 pm
99% of facts on the Internet are made up on the spot...
Got any proof to back that up?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 :lol
Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: johnakay on 21 August 2013, 08:04:35 pm
well its over 2 weeks now so look like I'm OK :)


I've never known a busy forum like this one. ya all must be keen to post.
is there a post count competition??  ;)
Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: JZS 600 on 21 August 2013, 08:29:13 pm
70% of all statistics are made up on the spot by 64% of people that produce false statistics 54% of the time they produce them.
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Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: JZS 600 on 21 August 2013, 08:31:26 pm
and now a GP Hero  :lol
Title: Re: scamera's ???
Post by: chaz on 21 August 2013, 09:19:42 pm
well its over 2 weeks now so look like I'm OK :)

that's good news better than getting done like I did, however you would have got ALL THE FACTS on the ticket, lol.