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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: noggythenog on 06 August 2013, 11:09:58 am
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Oh well it is a old bike so it's not bad considering.
Failed on lights, they're apparently a foreign unit pointing the wrong way :\ , so does that suggest my bikes been crashed in its history & had a new headlight unit stuck in bought off ebay & ending up being a foreign one???, never failed on it before but anyway the tester says he can get round it on re test by sticking some tape on to deflect the beam properly.
Also failed on 2 bushes in the swing arm where the dog bones bolt in to-not sure how expensive they are to replace or how many there are in total but i'd like to replace them all if not too costly.
Trouble is ive searched an old post here & the consensus was that this play was common & replacing all the bushes makes no difference, her's the link [font=.HelveticaNeueUI]http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=336.0[/font]
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[font=.HelveticaNeueUI][/size]Anyone got anyideas on this as it wasnt just an advisory, straight fail![/font]
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If the tester has gone to the trouble of identifying specific bearings as having failed then it's pretty likely they do need replacing. I wouldn't bother to replace all the other linkage bearings though, if they're not knackered you won't reduce free play by changing them.
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Tape and a couple of easily accessible bushes doesn't sound to bad for another years riding. Can't see it costing too much.
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Cool well i think the plan as you say Fazerider is to get the ones he identified & then get him to replace them,
That way if theres still slight play he might be on a guilt trip & class it as pass worthy since he fitted them.
All in all should be an easy fux, hopefully!
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Take your centre-stand off so he can't wiggle them as easily next time
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Take your centre-stand off so he can't wiggle them as easily next time
Ha ha, very crafty!!! :thumbup
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@noggy, are you talking about number 15 in the diagram?
£100 for 4 of them! :'(
http://www.yamahamotorcyclespares.co.uk/spares/epc2.asp?modelID=9656&PageiD=23&m=YAMAHA+FZS600+Fazer+REAR+ARM&uID=0 (http://www.yamahamotorcyclespares.co.uk/spares/epc2.asp?modelID=9656&PageiD=23&m=YAMAHA+FZS600+Fazer+REAR+ARM&uID=0)
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I believe that's the ones Darrsi, oh & thanks for the parts finder, ill order from that now. 8)
Yep he said both from that side were gone, funny how they go on 1 side.
Such an expense for some poxy little bits!, bikes just about clocked 13k miles.
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I'll try check mine later, mind you, it passed it's MOT a couple of weeks ago anyway :D
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£ thats me £58.17 down now. :o
It sounds like one of those things that mot testers are gonna differ on.
He better pass it now the Foccer!
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If it's only the upper ones that have died then you only need two bearings, but the sleeve (collar) will need changing too.
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If it's only the upper ones that have died then you only need two bearings, but the sleeve (collar) will need changing too.
Collar too :eek
But they is another 15 bucks each. :'(
I dont want you to say told you so but ive already ordered the 2 bearings now so ill try & cuff it for now, no doubt the other bearings will fail bext year & then ill replace them & the collars.
Cheers! :thumbup
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If it's only the upper ones that have died then you only need two bearings, but the sleeve (collar) will need changing too.
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Oh & it wasnt upper or lower that failed, as far as i could tell it was the left ones upper & lower,
That's what he pointed at anyway.but the mot fail sheet only says - Lower rear suspension bush has excessive free play.either way it looks like i only need 2 bearings.i hope!
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Things tend to go on the left quicker on any bike due to the side stand- water and crud drips that way and works its way into things plus weight of bike loading more on the left!
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Mine's a German import and last MOT the tester put tape on for me.
I don't know how you're supposed to do it yourself without a beam tester to show you where to put it.
Your tester sounds like a knob.
(http://i.imgur.com/8z7QzXi.jpg?1)
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He did say he could do it but ive no idea why he didnt just do it then pass it.well that part anyway.
& its quite annoying that it passed the last 2 mot's with the same lights
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There are a shedload of FZS600 swingarms on ebay, you could risk buying 3 or 4 and it'll still be cheaper than replacing those bearing / bushing parts
Currently 7 suitable headlight replacements too
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@elbrownos, what's the tape for?
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get it all done m8. better safe than sorry, don't want a dodgy one one there.
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@elbrownos, what's the tape for?
It's a German import so the lights apparently point the wrong way.
Last MOT the tester put the tape there so it would pass.
Dunno if there's a proper solution - the tape does pretty well! Its been there 10 months and not fallen off yet..
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There are these kind of things, you'd have to make sure you got Euro to UK tho'.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Headlight-Beam-deflectors-/261178859433?pt=UK_Car_Accessories_Touring_Travel&hash=item3ccf791fa9 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Headlight-Beam-deflectors-/261178859433?pt=UK_Car_Accessories_Touring_Travel&hash=item3ccf791fa9)
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@elbrownos, what's the tape for?
It's a German import so the lights apparently point the wrong way.
Last MOT the tester put the tape there so it would pass.
Dunno if there's a proper solution - the tape does pretty well! Its been there 10 months and not fallen off yet..
Apologies for sounding a bit thick, but what is the tape actually doing? :look
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As it's a European bike some of the beam is facing slightly to the right (kerb illumination) which could potentially dazzle oncoming traffic in the UK. Putting a bit of tape across the appropriate part of the glass cuts out this section whilst still giving enough light to see the road by.
Some MOT places don't mind, some do but apparently VOSA are getting stricter on this which may be the reason for the previous passes.
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As it's a European bike some of the beam is facing slightly to the right (kerb illumination) which could potentially dazzle oncoming traffic in the UK. Putting a bit of tape across the appropriate part of the glass cuts out this section whilst still giving enough light to see the road by.
Some MOT places don't mind, some do but apparently VOSA are getting stricter on this which may be the reason for the previous passes.
So it's effectively still aiming the wrong way, even though the "blinding" part has been cut off?
Surely that must make the lights even weaker than they already are?
I'm amazed a tester would even consider doing that, let alone actually passing it afterwards?
I don't think i could put up with that, i'd personally have to get the light unit changed.
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As it's a European bike some of the beam is facing slightly to the right (kerb illumination) which could potentially dazzle oncoming traffic in the UK. Putting a bit of tape across the appropriate part of the glass cuts out this section whilst still giving enough light to see the road by.
Some MOT places don't mind, some do but apparently VOSA are getting stricter on this which may be the reason for the previous passes.
So it's effectively still aiming the wrong way, even though the "blinding" part has been cut off?
Surely that must make the lights even weaker than they already are?
I'm amazed a tester would even consider doing that, let alone actually passing it afterwards?
I don't think i could put up with that, i'd personally have to get the light unit changed.
Agreed, you need to fit UK spec headlamps - it's only a temporary fix to get you through an MOT.
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The bearing required are special sealed needle roller type and the Yamaha Part number is 93317-41761.
Go to this site http://shop.marksman-ind.com/ (http://shop.marksman-ind.com/) look them up as BHKM1730JU the dimensions are 17x24x30 SEALED, they are about a £12 each
When I changed my bearings a few years ago they supplied all all the bearing, but I had to buy the OEM collars as they were not doing the collars then. .
Great company to deal with and very helpful.
On a note about the tape on the headlights, I do not think that tester had a clue as to what he was doing. The tape on the headlights in a previous post in the picture is in the wrong place for the and wrong shape to stop dazzle from a Euro spec headlight..
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The bearing required are special sealed needle roller type and the Yamaha Part number is 93317-41761.
Go to this site [url]http://shop.marksman-ind.com/[/url] ([url]http://shop.marksman-ind.com/[/url]) look them up as BHKM1730JU the dimensions are 17x24x30 SEALED, they are about a £12 each
When I changed my bearings a few years ago they supplied all all the bearing, but I had to buy the OEM collars as they were not doing the collars then. .
Great company to deal with and very helpful.
On a note about the tape on the headlights, I do not think that tester had a clue as to what he was doing. The tape on the headlights in a previous post in the picture is in the wrong place for the and wrong shape to stop dazzle from a Euro spec headlight..
You would think that the tape should at least be on the left side of each lamp as you are looking at it?
Not sure what's going on there, that's why i sounded a bit clueless earlier? :look (it was nothing to do with the fact that i am clueless :crazy )
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Hey Unfazed - you the man!!!! 8)
I was waiting 4 to 5 days for the yam parts but ive just seen your info & they were 9 quid each plus ive paid 8 quid for courier to get them tommorow, all being well i might get my back on the road for meeting up with slim on sunday.
Plus your link is on here now for anyone else that needs them in future.
Even with the 8 quid delivery ive also saved £27 ching ching!!!! :)
Ive had a chat with the mechanic & he'll strip it down tomorrow, best case scenario he just replaces the 2 bearings but he concurs thatnthe sleeves might need replacing also so ill leave it with him.
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Another happy foccer, we are an easily pleased bunch of foccers
They also do the bearing for where the shock attaches to the linkage.
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You would think that the tape should at least be on the left side of each lamp as you are looking at it?
Not sure what's going on there, that's why i sounded a bit clueless earlier? :look (it was nothing to do with the fact that i am clueless :crazy )
As far as I can tell the tape does nothing at all!
So what do you do if you take your bike to Europe, can you get beam benders for bikes?
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You would think that the tape should at least be on the left side of each lamp as you are looking at it?
Not sure what's going on there, that's why i sounded a bit clueless earlier? :look (it was nothing to do with the fact that i am clueless :crazy )
As far as I can tell the tape does nothing at all!
So what do you do if you take your bike to Europe, can you get beam benders for bikes?
No, we just blind them :lol