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Title: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: Fizzy Pies on 22 July 2013, 10:05:54 pm
tempted by these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/140909334119?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/140909334119?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1438.l2649)

but ive never had much luck from china
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: AdieR on 22 July 2013, 10:10:31 pm
Have a look for ASV levers - more expensive, but probably better quality overall.
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: Punkstig on 22 July 2013, 10:15:00 pm
I have similar Chinese ones, absolutely fine, go for them!
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: Dead Eye on 23 July 2013, 01:01:43 pm
If you do get them, let me know how you get on as it's something that is on my to-do list
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: Punkstig on 23 July 2013, 07:12:56 pm
If they were sent from china (or that general area) they always write 'gift' on the package, not once have I had to pay any duties when getting stuff from that part of the world.
If you do get stung its standard vat on top of what you've paid plus a small paperwork charge!
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: keno on 23 July 2013, 07:53:20 pm
Got these on my zrx1200 they are great quality for the money.
Bought loads of gear from china for my bikes and all good,dont worry about customs from china never had any charges ever.America on the other hand is the one you get charged for.
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: mtread on 23 July 2013, 09:00:31 pm
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Ordered, just hope customs don't try to rape me for import duty and handling fees, does anyone know at what price this applies ?

They won't but TNT might. Low value for VAT free is £15. See my reply at http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,8866.msg88314.html#msg88314 (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,8866.msg88314.html#msg88314)

Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: tkwish on 23 July 2013, 09:08:29 pm
The 15 quid threshold doesn't apply if it is marked as a sample as mine was so add a note to your order asking them not to mark item as sample
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: mtread on 23 July 2013, 09:13:05 pm
Good point. Presumably because a 'sample' is regarded as a commercial importation rather than a personal one.
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: garyb on 23 July 2013, 10:29:59 pm
There's a couple of photos of mine fitted and an eBay link to the seller on this thread if that's any help.

http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php?topic=6412.msg87554#msg87554
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: garyb on 24 July 2013, 09:16:45 pm
I hate that !!

Ah well least you have them and are happy with them too.
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: wannafazer on 04 August 2013, 02:58:07 pm
Adam, they look good. Did they go straight on with no foccin' about ?

Les
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: noggythenog on 04 August 2013, 03:11:46 pm
Agreed, these look ace & i need a new brake lever anyway.


I dont know nowt about the mechanism though, any special tools required???
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: noggythenog on 04 August 2013, 03:37:03 pm
Cool, cheers fizzy, sounds within my limited powers


Hope they feel good when you get oot n aboot.
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: Fuzzy on 08 August 2013, 02:57:46 pm
Hows the adjustment of the clutch lever like? I've always found the standard lever to be too far away from the bar to my liking.
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: Fuzzy on 08 August 2013, 06:15:13 pm
Thanks Fizzy Pies, that's good, they're a bit of yummy bling too so I think I just might!
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: Exupnut on 08 August 2013, 10:39:45 pm
Fuck cnc levers.... A FOCCER HAS CRASHED....
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: noggythenog on 08 August 2013, 11:00:13 pm
Im crashing


Crashing out!!!


God night exup


You sneaky foccer!!!!!!


You do realise this all gets stored in a warehouse in Finland & trees get cut down for your bandwidth wasteage :evil
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: Fuzzy on 12 August 2013, 12:34:35 am
Just ordered some of these. Wanted some standard length ones but couldn't find them anywhere so settled on a nice silver pair  :D
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: Mav121 on 13 August 2013, 10:29:10 am
Hi, My first ever post on here, hope it helps.

I got these levers from eBay (China) and have been using them for about three weeks. Like you I was not too sure about how they would turn out but I am more than happy with them. As for the company, I had no problems with them, the levers actually turned up 2 days before they said they would.
Attached are some pics (i hope) of them on the bike.
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: Fuzzy on 13 August 2013, 02:34:44 pm
Firstly, welcome Mav121! Yes, they look good and nicely colour coordinated too btw. Bit worried about switching to short levers, not sure if I'd like it to be honest. Looking forward to trying them out though.
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: noggythenog on 23 August 2013, 06:35:18 pm
Fizzy how are you getting on with these levers, re the clutch switch?.


I really really really need some new levers now, they cant take any more impacts.these ones seem the only option at a sensible price & they do look the part.


Fras
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: Fuzzy on 23 August 2013, 08:49:48 pm
Mine should be here next week - not looking forward to any charges  :thumbdown
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: noggythenog on 23 August 2013, 09:58:39 pm
Well ive just sent them a message asking if they have any of the Blue ones & can i have the same price as the gold.


Ive also asked how they'll package them so hopefully ill get some Blue ones soon enough. 8)
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: noggythenog on 24 August 2013, 04:47:43 pm
 
Finally ordered some for my now soon to be mad max fazer.
annoyingly only gold ones available at much much cheapness, but they told me they could do Blue but there was no way i could figure out to buy blue ones on ebay so ive bought the black ones with a message to them explaining that i want Blue not black.
 
i also explained that since they were close to 20 gbp can they mark as such and i suggested they were a gift, a gift from me to my myself no less! :b .
 
so basically now im playing the will i get customs raped waiting game
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: noggythenog on 24 August 2013, 06:56:58 pm
Oh foc fuzzy so i just ordered too soon before you did your post,


This shit is too complicated,


So ive really got to stress to them now to put gift on the packet or im focced!, can you pull out of an ebay buy in such a case because im getting to the stage where ill just blow my dosh on some Titax & not worry about this customs nonsense.


Fingers crossed
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: Fuzzy on 24 August 2013, 07:01:37 pm
I'm in the same boat as you noggythenog. Have a feeling I'm going to be focced over by TNT, not looking forward to it!
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: noggythenog on 24 August 2013, 07:21:09 pm
Never mind fuzzy, its only money, we still get focin kick ass levers in the end :smokin ,shit jus realised my last post related to Fizzy...not Fuzzy.i may as well be Frazy! :lol


Cheers


Fras
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: bbb on 24 August 2013, 10:00:37 pm
I bought a pair of the shorty cnc levers from China as well, great fit and work fine but...


.. got a letter from TNT wanting £20 - is it a case of cough-up the dosh? (not wanting to thread hijack though so can start another if required)
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: noggythenog on 24 August 2013, 10:26:41 pm
I bought a pair of the shorty cnc levers from China as well, great fit and work fine but...


.. got a letter from TNT wanting £20 - is it a case of cough-up the dosh? (not wanting to thread hijack though so can start another if required)


Out of interest did you ask them to mark it as a gift or anything, i reckon tnt are wise to these chinese sellers by the sounds of things???
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: noggythenog on 24 August 2013, 10:44:44 pm
Well looks like ive focced up big time then, my levers came to about £46 & i was asking them to value at £20 so ill need to try cancel the whole order or something but i dont have a clue how to do that either :'(


I could end up paying about 90 quid for what looked a bargain.


Ill message the guy again & see what they say.
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: noggythenog on 25 August 2013, 08:17:08 am
Yep ive told them now i want a refund unless it is less than £15 & marked as a gift.


Its a bit unfair really, you can buy a plasma tv dirt cheap, which comes from china.or a whole 125 motorbike for £700 but when you're forced to buy some little levers because hardly anyone in the EU makes any then you have to bend over.


Ah well i hope they come back with some good news.
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: tkwish on 25 August 2013, 08:54:27 am
Also remember if it's marked as a sample it is exempt from the 15 quid rule so make sure they don't Mark it as a sample
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: noggythenog on 27 August 2013, 06:04:05 pm
Just confirming that some shiny Blue ones are on their way to me.


Cant wait. 8)
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: noggythenog on 27 August 2013, 10:02:03 pm
Well yeah i basically moaned my arse off & they agreed that the real value was about $20 so that will be marked.


They wouldnt put gift as that was against the rules.


Fair play though their customer service is excellent, they get straight back to you.
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: mtread on 27 August 2013, 10:14:08 pm
TNT try it on every time, even when the value is clearly under £15. Nice little illegal profit for them. How many people who are unaware of the rules just pay up? See my reply at http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,8866.msg88314.html#msg88314 (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,8866.msg88314.html#msg88314) They never even bothered to reply. Just don't pay it.
As to the clutch switch, yes they seem to make the plate a big bigger, so it doesn't cut in. If so, just clip a little bit off the switch plunger with some pincers. About 2mm at a time until the plunger comes out far enough to allow a start.
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: Punkstig on 27 August 2013, 10:51:59 pm
I can't stand clutch switches and have cut them off every bike I've had!
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: mtread on 27 August 2013, 11:13:54 pm
Go on, give it a go. And don't forget to charge them a fee for charging the admin fee  :lol
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: Buzz on 28 August 2013, 10:04:07 am
I can't stand clutch switches and have cut them off every bike I've had!


+1...I use the clutch on every start anyway, that switch ain't the boss of me!
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: Fuzzy on 28 August 2013, 05:33:21 pm
My silver pair came yesterday, managed to avoid any customs as marked as $20.

Look great, fit great, adjust great, quality is great BUT I just can't get on with short levers :\ . Tried the clutch lever for a short ride today but took it off afterwards. Didn't bother fitting the brake lever as I know I won't get on with it.

Anybody clever know if any compatible long levers are available to swap in? Btw I asked the seller regarding long levers and they didn't have them, nobody does for the Fazer as far as I'm aware  :'( (apart from the pricey ones obviously).

Alternatively, if anybody is interested in a pair of silver cnc levers, pm me!
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: mtread on 28 August 2013, 10:21:45 pm
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Anybody clever know if any compatible long levers are available to swap in? Btw I asked the seller regarding long levers and they didn't have them, nobody does for the Fazer as far as I'm aware

Yep, I bought these http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CNC-Adjustable-Long-Straight-Brake-Clutch-Levers-For-YAMAHA-FZ6-Fazer-1997-2003-/300703156216?ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:GB:3160 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/CNC-Adjustable-Long-Straight-Brake-Clutch-Levers-For-YAMAHA-FZ6-Fazer-1997-2003-/300703156216?ssPageName=ADME:L:OU:GB:3160)
They're great
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: Fuzzy on 28 August 2013, 11:29:07 pm
bugger
 
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: Fuzzy on 28 August 2013, 11:34:42 pm
Just realised that's the same seller I bought from who told me they didn't have long versions. Maybe they didn't at the time but it was only a couple of weeks ago. Bugger
 
Thanks for the link though
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: Timbollew on 28 August 2013, 11:47:08 pm
Fuzzy - How come you don't like them? Are they harder to pull the clutch in? I might be interested in buying them, where you from?
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: Fuzzy on 29 August 2013, 12:08:51 am
Sorry, Deadeye's already been in touch about them but if he doesn't want them I'll let you know first.
No, it's far better in terms of reach than standard. It brings the lever closer to the bar and it's easier to pull in, but I feel I have better control with 4 fingers which is handy in traffic and there's a lot of it where I am in London. You should see my clutch side bar grip, seriously worn! Same story with braking,  2 fingers most of the time but in a emergency stop situation I use 4 fingers, more control and no risk of trapped fingers.
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: Punkstig on 29 August 2013, 08:04:28 am
Sorry, Deadeye's already been in touch about them but if he doesn't want them I'll let you know first.
No, it's far better in terms of reach than standard. It brings the lever closer to the bar and it's easier to pull in, but I feel I have better control with 4 fingers which is handy in traffic and there's a lot of it where I am in London. You should see my clutch side bar grip, seriously worn! Same story with braking,  2 fingers most of the time but in a emergency stop situation I use 4 fingers, more control and no risk of trapped fingers.


Funny isn't it because I was 2 finger braking and clutching I had to swap to shorties because of trapping the 2 fingers on the grip with long levers, plus I feel the opposite and that I have far greater control of the bike with shorties.
It's all a personal thing, if you're not used to 2 fingers (oo er) then shorties take a bit of getting used to.
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: noggythenog on 29 August 2013, 08:19:19 am
I usually use 2 fingers for braking as fazer brakes are good, then 4 for the clutch so that will take getting used to.


On my recent off i had to brake hard, but i locked up, either that or hit the car but ive got a feeling i grabbed the brake with all 4 fingers so cant help thinking that the shortys will reduce the likelyhood of me doing this again.


Sorry to hear you dont got on with them Fuzzy, a bit of a pisser after the hassle of getting them, but if you dont try you dont find out.
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: Dead Eye on 29 August 2013, 09:05:51 am
I've been constantly thinking do I get them, do I leave it ever since this topic started

They issues surrounding TNT just put me off for now, but with Fuzzy selling his set I can't really let them go ^^

I've begun to use 2 finger braking pretty much all the time now as I am blipping the throttle on downshifts and do occasionally find the stock levers too long. Plus the clutch one got bent during the crash :P
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: Fuzzy on 29 August 2013, 12:51:46 pm
That was the same for me, it was more like 3 fingers on the lever with the last one dangling off the ball end.
I can see why people like to use just 2 fingers, I too tend to use 2 fingers on the open road and there are times when I don't use 4  fingers at all, like trackdays. But I did an emergency braking exercise as part of a course last year and that made me realise that in an emergency I'm probably better off using 4 fingers for braking. As for the clutch, I guess that's even more about personal choice.
And its not even a choice between 2 or 4 fingers, there are many riders that use 3 and I recall something about a Japanese racer who uses his thumb as well as his fingers!
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: noggythenog on 29 August 2013, 01:10:22 pm
My Blue levers just arrived today.


I ordered bar end mirrors from the uk on the same day as i ordered the levers from China.....they both arrived the same day so big up to china levers inc thats fast delivery.


The levers are really good quality & the adjustors have a good clunky feel to them when adjusting unlike the loose & wobbly action i expected.


Also marked as $20 ;)
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: mtread on 29 August 2013, 08:41:58 pm
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Also marked as $20
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They issues surrounding TNT just put me off for now,
The TNT 'invoice' doesn't arrive with the goods. They tend to send it on a week or so later. Keep the wrapper that came with the goods as proof of the declared value.
Then if they do send an invoice send them an email as per my example above.
Don't let the bastards get away with it. Happy to provide further advice if required  ;)
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: Timbollew on 29 August 2013, 10:50:16 pm
No worries Fuzzy. Might order some soon.
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: noggythenog on 29 August 2013, 10:52:28 pm
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Also marked as $20
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They issues surrounding TNT just put me off for now,
The TNT 'invoice' doesn't arrive with the goods. They tend to send it on a week or so later. Keep the wrapper that came with the goods as proof of the declared value.
Then if they do send an invoice send them an email as per my example above.
Don't let the bastards get away with it. Happy to provide further advice if required  ;)


Cheers mtread


Top banana!!! 8)


They just jealous coz they aint got foccin fazers wi foccin bling levers!!! :b


Foccin TuNTs!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: Punkstig on 30 August 2013, 07:36:47 am
Instead of asking the seller to mark it as gift or a value under £15 why not just ask them to mark it
'Foc u TNT'  :lol
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: noggythenog on 30 August 2013, 08:38:42 am
Fizzy i havent fitted mine yet because im waiting on my Renthals to arrive today, then ill crack on.


Here's a taster pic of them...err..on my hob (i said hob!) :lol
Title: Re: Anyone fitted CNC shorty levers to their fzs600?
Post by: Chris on 30 August 2013, 04:15:42 pm
Those look really smart Noggy my friend! Can't wait to see your bike when it's done!

Chris