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General => General => Topic started by: Hedgetrimmer on 15 July 2013, 08:10:05 pm
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Curious as to what Fazer riders would choose if you couldn't have a Fazer, money no limit. Wonder if there'll be any kind of consensus, perhaps what led us all to buy Fazers. Or will everyone's choices be different?
To make it a little more interesting - one bike only; but discuss possibilities discarded along the way to your choice.
This is going to be the bike you must live with from day to day, so think carefully...
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If it was a bit of exotica, a bimota SB6R. Yummy ::)
A modern bike would be a Ducati multistrada 1200 pikes peak.
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Just to prompt you to think a little more carefully - this is going to be the bike you have to live with from day to day...if you can fit the Bimota into your "lifestyle" (and I shudder to use that word!) Stevie, then OK. Will edit the question accordingly.
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Hmm... Half a dozen bikes!!
I'd keep a Fazer as an everyday bike (but maybe a Thou?)
Distance tourer - Pan European or FJR1300
Trackday bike - R6, or CBR600
Nip to the shops - Varadero 125.
And a dozen spares (any design / brand. Bar Harleys). :lol :lol
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Re-read the question Christo. Have edited it slightly, but it already said no Fazers!
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dream bike for me is an FJR1300, comfort, reasonably fast, I like the looks. winner. insurance is crippling for me though so Ill have to wait a few years yet.
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Re-read the question Christo. Have edited it slightly, but it already said no Fazers!
Replace Fazer Thou with either an XJ6, or maybe a TBM900.
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Norton commando 850 :D ,
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I only bought the Fazer last year so I know what I would have gone for instead. My plan was to buy a cheap (about £1000) bike. It didn't really matter what it was because the plan was to trade it in the next year for a different £1000 bike. Rinse and repeat until I got bored.
I'd still like to do that but right now, I'm enjoying the Fazer too much!
I have also discovered that what I really need is a bike for commuting, for twisty roads on Sundays and for longer holidays. Not sure what I would get to cover those three bases!
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Good question. The honest answer is that I don't know for sure at this stage, but if weren't allowed to test ride an FZS 1000 (to compare to my 600) then I'd take an XJR 1300 out instead.
I like the character, and it looks comfy which is really important for me.
I understand it's maybe not much of a sports bike, but so long as it's still fun to ride through the twisty bits.
I'd need to add some fairing for the motorway miles involved in any serious touring.
Andy
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I'm on my 9th Fazer so at the moment wouldn't get anything else as it ticks all the boxes for me.
If I "had" to then a FJR1300.
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Fazer is a great bike ,but would have to be the Triumph Tiger 1050 8)
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Re-read the question Christo. Have edited it slightly, but it already said no Fazers!
Replace Fazer Thou with either an XJ6, or maybe a TBM900.
Would love to see a picture of a TBM900 :lol
Me, I guess MV Agusta Tamburini, but would always keep the Fazers
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Nope, no Fazers. Whatever you do on your Fazer, this choice has got to cover it, unless you'd change what you use your bike for if Fazers were out.
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Typo - I meant a TDM.
Well, I don'r ride as hard as I'd like to on the Fazer (I run out of tyre round corners), so a sportier bike would allow me to do that. Maybe a CBR600F2?
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I think of my new Ace just as a sporty superfazer. Its engine response is very similar, just much stronger. Its good as an all-round bike and it has exactly the same handlebar's switches, footpegs and indicators.
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Triumph Bonneville America.
Like them.....alot
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hard one as i already have a T140 so maybe a JOTA.
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erm? would have to be a Brough Superior SS100, never seen one in use, although there was a SS 80 at Squires last week.
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moto martin cbx every time.
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I think to cover all basis/fazer replacement it would be Kawasaki Z1000 SX
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I've still got my eyes on a Triumph Sprint 1050 ST at some point in the future...
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I think to cover all basis/fazer replacement it would be Kawasaki Z1000 SX
(http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr61/slimwilly/kawasakiz1000sx20111g_zpsf6a34f3d.jpg) (http://s470.photobucket.com/user/slimwilly/media/kawasakiz1000sx20111g_zpsf6a34f3d.jpg.html)
Too right , this Kwaker really is the bollocks, my mate who likes my fz1 has a gixxer 750 and gets cramp after 3 or 4 hundred miles,
he now sees sense and is checking out the market for our style bikes and found these.
(http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr61/slimwilly/kawasakiz_zpsb6e84bdc.jpg) (http://s470.photobucket.com/user/slimwilly/media/kawasakiz_zpsb6e84bdc.jpg.html)
I really love this bike,,
Well i love my bike but if i had to have another make !!!
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It would have to be:
1) Under 750 cc for registration and insurance costs to be bearable.
2) Under 220 kg kerb weight for me to be able to push it up hill.
3) Good brakes, good handling on pavement, but still able to be taken a bit off road.
So....
Kawasaki Versys, in spite of that UGLY headlight.
Or, in spite of that full fairing which is a pain in the neck to clean, repair when sliding etc, Honda CBR600F4.
(http://cdn.tradebit.org/usr/tismanual/pub/9002/111034478_CBR600F4LX-R157.jpg)
(http://www.motorcyclespecs.co.za/Gallery%20B/kawasaki%20versys%20%2008%20%202.jpg)
But I would prefer to keep the good old FZS600. Perhaps with added Wilbers shock absorber and stronger springs, but still keep it.
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I think to cover all basis/fazer replacement it would be Kawasaki Z1000 SX
([url]http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr61/slimwilly/kawasakiz1000sx20111g_zpsf6a34f3d.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s470.photobucket.com/user/slimwilly/media/kawasakiz1000sx20111g_zpsf6a34f3d.jpg.html[/url])
Too right , this Kwaker really is the bollocks, my mate who likes my fz1 has a gixxer 750 and gets cramp after 3 or 4 hundred miles,
he now sees sense and is checking out the market for our style bikes and found these.
([url]http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr61/slimwilly/kawasakiz_zpsb6e84bdc.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s470.photobucket.com/user/slimwilly/media/kawasakiz_zpsb6e84bdc.jpg.html[/url])
I really love this bike,,
Well i love my bike but if i had to have another make !!!
3 or 400 miles, as early as that, huh?...
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Zx1000sx is about the only bike that tempts me from the gen 1 as a everyday and only bike.
1050 tiger maybe if I could afford the servicing costs
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If I had room for several bikes rather than one excellent all rounder. Then I would have a
BMW k1600gt
Moto Guzzi California touring
Suzuki gsxr1000
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However a replacement all rounder would be a
Z1000sx
I could be forced to put up with one of my other 3 listed above lol.
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1050 tiger maybe if I could afford the servicing costs
And £800 for new suspension all round! The standard shock and forks are dreadful!
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Money literally no object, then an MV Agusta F4 CC.
I use my bike for everything; commuting, fun and distance riding, but luckily being 21 I find most things reasonably comfortable!
http://www.latimes.com/news/la-hy-throttle28-2008may28,0,2379848.story (http://www.latimes.com/news/la-hy-throttle28-2008may28,0,2379848.story)
Realistically though, I think my next bike (next year, or possibly year after that) will be either another FZS 1000, or possibly another ZX9R - both need some money spent on them to sort out their key weaknesses, but are then cracking road bikes. Couple years after that I can see me going for a liter sports machine, probably 1st Gen ZX10R, or 04/05 R1, but if I were going to have one of those, with the current motorway/twoup riding I do I'd probably need a second bike as well!
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Cr500 in supermoto trim
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1050 tiger maybe if I could afford the servicing costs
And £800 for new suspension all round! The standard shock and forks are dreadful!
All it needs is the oil weight changing and then its well sorted.
Everyday - WeeStrom & a Tiger 800 (better balanced than big brother)
Playtime XJR1300/Suzuki GSX1400
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All it needs is the oil weight changing and then its well sorted.
There's quite a bit more to it than that, but its a start. The bad suspension is the only reason I got rid of mine. Rear spring is weighted for a 10 stone rider, rear shock is way, way under damped, and that's coming from suspension experts who rebuild them. A good bike ruined imho.
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Mercedes SL55 AMG :car
But that Kawasaki does look pretty.
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I think I could really live with the new KTM 1190 Adventure, if the first report I've read is an accurate representation. I have also considered Tiger 1050, latest Z1000, Ducati Hypermotard (but doesn't tick enough boxes), a few others - but KTM does seem to be very versatile whilst still doing what, in my opinion, a bike is for - fun factor.
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A garage full would be nice..
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Boxer SSR 1000. Bit out of the price range at the moment, but maybe one day..? :'(
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If cost was an issue then a Bandit 1000. I blame the wheelie school all those years ago!
Cost no issue - probably a Sprint, maybe a Blackbird. That Kwak I hadn't seen before and looks nice too. It'd be nice if there were a modern firestorm equivalent but never found a suitable option (SV looks lovely but my legs were too cramped, Aprillia Futura too ugly, same with the Ducatti ST2)
Although as I only really ride in town now could lose the fairing and go for a Monster or something similar.
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If money was no object then it'd probably be a Ducati 996 so I could pay for taxis when it didn't start in the winter or pay for the spring rebuild if it did. Realistically though I like the look of the Triumph Sprint, I was thinking about the VFR as well but haven't got the room for either of them anyway....yet
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Ducati Diavel - why - look at it!
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Fz-09 2014 3 cylinder model. Or maybe I'd get bugatti to design a one off for me.
Really a custom bike would be a no brainer, you'd be daft to go for something off the peg if you had an infinite budget and could get Ducati to design you something.
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You've got a point there Simon. It'd be ace to walk into a bike shop with a big wad of cash and say "build me a bike".
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You've got a point there Simon. It'd be ace to walk into a bike shop with a big wad of cash and say "build me a bike".
sod that !
if i had a wad of cash, i'd buy the gear and do it myself !
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But what kind of bike would you build? Let's stick to the rules I imposed on this thread for the moment, and say it's going to be your only bike - would you go sports/sports-tourer, adventure style, all-rounder?
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We all do that on here anyway, it just takes a while! Id get them to build me one from scratch just because I'm filthy rich. (we can only dream....)
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But what kind of bike would you build? Let's stick to the rules I imposed on this thread for the moment, and say it's going to be your only bike - would you go sports/sports-tourer, adventure style, all-rounder?
would have to be a sports tourer type for me.
maybe something with a (slightly) lower seat height than the fazer and a nice big engine in it !
hmmmm......
wonder if i could put a jet engine in a fazer type frame ;)
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mmmmmmmm...tough one that.....always wanted to try a v twin for the torque....so only one choice....a ducati in RED :lol
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But what kind of bike would you build? Let's stick to the rules I imposed on this thread for the moment, and say it's going to be your only bike - would you go sports/sports-tourer, adventure style, all-rounder?
Pure sports bike, but with a 24L endurance tank, and some kind of brackety allowing hard luggage to be fitted!
I won't ever be going off road, and want the best from a bike in terms of it's engine, handling and brakes. To be honest, something like a K5 GSX-R1000 would probably suit me down to the ground, as I'd be after a bit of a midrange. That, combined with a bigger tank and hard luggage, and I'd have the perfect bike, able to do long distances with luggage and then hammer round the twisties when you get there. Until I hit about 40 at least, and can no longer ride one comfortably :lol
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Most people seem to be heading off in to highly predictable red Ducati territory :lol
I'd say it has to be a sports tourer of some sort if you have to use it every day. I like Punkstig's direction, take a bike you like and bastardise (forgive the profanity, I think it's justified) it until it's what you want it to be.
The things you can't really change easily I suppose are engine size, fuel tank apart from that most of the aficionados seem to change the front forks/disc/suspension, the rear swing arms/suspension, the full monty.
I think that 600's are a nice sweet spot with fuel economy, speed and lightness, so a lightweight 2 or 3 cylinder 600cc sports tourer (I'm guessing 2-3 cylinders will be lighter than 4) with, beyond that, a shack of parts you can swap over will make it how you want, when you want. With regard to tank size, 22 litres seems to be a nice compromise between size and capacity.
No one bike is perfect until you've changed it to how you want it :-P
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Triumph Thruxton or any R1 :)
Mark
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Recently found myself in this situation. My fazer is an ongoing project so I fancied a bike on the road for this weather. My commute is 8 miles of backroads, I am surrounded by fields and potholed roads and there are some nice sandy byways not far from me.... so I went out and bought a new crf250l!
It ticked all the boxes... light, fun, 90mpg, and 8k service intervals.not as highly strung as a mx based road bike, more of a dual sport. Probably the best bike I have owned overall, sure, no good for motorways (although it will do 90), but perfect for my needs and always gives me a big grin.
Me being me though, in its 700 miles of life it has been treated to a full yoshi system, 13/43 sprockets, airbox mods, braided hoses and an electronic jet kit!
What im saying is, there is probably no 'perfect' off the shelf bike. You have to take the best bike for your needs and make it your own.... now, big bore kit anyone? Lol
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a full yoshi system
Finally, Super Mario enters conversation :lol
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Diaval or ZX1000SX If i win the lottery :lol but then again if i do win i can have both ;)
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Always wanted Ducati Monster. Diavel looks very nice but if I was spending my money it would probably be a Multistrada..
That being said the rumours of a naked BMW S1000RR would be worth a look. All that BHP in a nicer riding position for the more ample gentlemen :lol
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BMW F800GT or a Versys
everyday usable bikes. arrghh I want to shopping now..
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I'm lucky to have built up a pot of money, enough to clear off the mortgage (only got 2 years to run, so not much saving by early payoff). I have a strong urge to splash out on something bikey next Spring.
Current FZ1 could do with some TLC, suspension revamp, and possibly a bit of bling. All my bike gear needs renewing.
Thinking of another bike such as a Speed Triple (too similar to FZ1 I suspect) or Street Triple or perhaps something different such as a Tiger or KTM. Don't particularly want a sportsbike again other than as a "toy". Never ridden an adventure-type bike or supermoto. Tempted by something fun, usable, powerful and different for everyday use. Any suggestions?
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Supermoto every time! Had 'adventure' bikes and they aint that adventurous really, unless you want to keep dropping them in the sand and gravel. Too top heavy to pick up again. Go for a dual sport or supermoto for fun factor!
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Blackbird - if I could find a mint example.
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If there was a bike that was better than all others...................there would be only one bike
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And that would be an FZS1000 gen 1. :D
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I would go for the motoguzzi v7 café racer , as most of the time I use the bike for sunday bimbles .
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Hmmmmmm..... I already have a 1200RT as well as my FZS1000. The RT replaced my VFR800 as I will now be touring two-up instead of solo. (Off to Spain next week - wohoooo!)
If the Fazer had to go I would probably get a naked Triumph. The Speed Triple would be an obvious choice but I do have a soft spot for the Bonneville. The problem with the Bonnie, lovely though it is, is that it might not hit the spot in the performance stakes. Right then, Speed Triple it would be :-)
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If the Fazer had to go I would probably get a naked Triumph. The Speed Triple would be an obvious choice but I do have a soft spot for the Bonneville. The problem with the Bonnie, lovely though it is, is that it might not hit the spot in the performance stakes. Right then, Speed Triple it would be :-)
Word for word what I was thinking, but replace Bonneville with Thunderbird. It's mainly cruisers that got me into biking in the first place. That is, until my direct access course showed me how well Bandits can handle. :D
I absolutely love the new Yamaha XV950, but 52bhp, WTF? Why is it that cruisers are so underpowered for their size?
Anyway, I was originally looking at Speed Fours until I saw my Fazer at a dealers (best decision ever!), so if I couldn't have a Fazer and money wasn't a problem, then I'd go for a new Speed Triple R.
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I'd love the XTZ660 Tenere.
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Valentino's M1
:))
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"Word for word what I was thinking, but replace Bonneville with Thunderbird. It's mainly cruisers that got me into biking in the first place. That is, until my direct access course showed me how well Bandits can handle. :D "
That's an interesting point. I wonder how many of us would change our minds if we all got to try lots of different bikes? I had a big off on an FZR1000 EXUP in 1991, and since have not been able to ride anything with clip-on style bars, so I've missed all the R1s, R6s, most of the GSXRs, ZXRs etc so I know my path through motorcycling may have been quite different if the accident hadn't happened. I've been offered test rides of a couple of new Triumphs recently (even tho' I made it quite clear I wasn't in a position to buy anything, nice of the fella) and I wonder if it'll change any perspective on what I like or don't like?
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A younger wife and a trail type bike.
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The FZS600 suits me so well that I'd only want to replace it with something that is a good match for it's performance, range, comfort etc. The odd thing is Yamaha now have a bit of a hole in their line-up. The Diversion is probably the closest offering, but with only 77 bhp it'll seem tame by comparison. The R6 on the other hand, is a bit extreme for everyday use and the riding position would probably kill my back.
Kawasaki's offerings have a similar gap between the ER6/Versys and the ZX6R, plus I'm quite prejudiced against the marque since I've experienced a lot of reliability issues with them.
Suzuki have the SV650 which admittedly is down on power compared with the Fazer but is so damn pretty I could live with it. The BMW F800 is another on the shortlist, but Honda's CBR600F is probably the closest match to the Fazer and I guess is the one I'd have to go for.
I don't think I'd love it as much though.
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The closest to the FZS600 that Honda do currently is the CBF1000. Just like the FZS to ride but with more torque.
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The FZS600 suits me so well that I'd only want to replace it with something that is a good match for it's performance, range, comfort etc. The odd thing is Yamaha now have a bit of a hole in their line-up. The Diversion is probably the closest offering, but with only 77 bhp it'll seem tame by comparison. The R6 on the other hand, is a bit extreme for everyday use and the riding position would probably kill my back.
Kawasaki's offerings have a similar gap between the ER6/Versys and the ZX6R, plus I'm quite prejudiced against the marque since I've experienced a lot of reliability issues with them.
Suzuki have the SV650 which admittedly is down on power compared with the Fazer but is so damn pretty I could live with it. The BMW F800 is another on the shortlist, but Honda's CBR600F is probably the closest match to the Fazer and I guess is the one I'd have to go for.
I don't think I'd love it as much though.
FZ8?
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The FZS600 suits me so well that I'd only want to replace it with something that is a good match for it's performance, range, comfort etc. The odd thing is Yamaha now have a bit of a hole in their line-up. The Diversion is probably the closest offering, but with only 77 bhp it'll seem tame by comparison. The R6 on the other hand, is a bit extreme for everyday use and the riding position would probably kill my back.
Kawasaki's offerings have a similar gap between the ER6/Versys and the ZX6R, plus I'm quite prejudiced against the marque since I've experienced a lot of reliability issues with them.
Suzuki have the SV650 which admittedly is down on power compared with the Fazer but is so damn pretty I could live with it. The BMW F800 is another on the shortlist, but Honda's CBR600F is probably the closest match to the Fazer and I guess is the one I'd have to go for.
I don't think I'd love it as much though.
FZ8?
Actually, yes. You're right, it is probably the closest thing to an FZS600 in the current lineup.
I'd sort of discounted it because it's a bit heavier and the first impression was that it's hideous, though the half faired version isn't an eyesore, at least from the front (I still don't like the tail stalk that seems to be the new fashion). It's also in a higher tax and insurance bands, overpriced to begin with... and, for the purposes of this thread, disqualified because it bears the Fazer name. :lol
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As a practical, everyday bike discounting the Fazers, it'd probably be Suzuki GSX650F in bronze / black, an older Hornet 600 (2002-ish) or a Kwak Z750 (always wanted one for some strange reason).
Was originally toying with buying the GSX650F when I chanced upon an '03 plate Fazer, and (in the same dealer) my current '58 reg FZ6 S2.
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I know you said only one but I really can't decide between the Z1000 & Versys. :D
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KTM - 1190 Adventure
Suzuki GSX 1400 or Yamaha XJR1300
KLX 650r, XR 650r or MZ Baghira
A Buell XB12 lightning, although unlikely I would fit on it if I find the Fazer uncomfortable.
If I HAD to pick one of those, probably the KTM as it's the best mix of my choices. Although theres also the 990 SM...... :evil
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would you go sports/sports-tourer, adventure style, all-rounder?
Yes, I'd go for a bike with all of those. If money was no object in terms of purchase price/servicing/fuel, I'd go for a Ducati MST1200.
Sports from the engine and suspension, sport-tourer as it feels comfy enough once he suspension has been backed of a bit, adventure style - I quick like the upright position and relaxed seat/peg positioning for knees, and its a good all rounder. Its light as well. I'd buy one tomorrow if I wasn't bothered about the cost.
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I use Suzuki GSXR 1000 K7 as my only bike and commuter. As long as I can I will stick to sports bikes, so I would go for the Aprilia RSV4 Factory as money is no object I would add BST carbon wheels, suspension revalve, 24 litre fuel tank and heated grips. Would also add other bling but that would be the main things for starters.
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Tempted by something fun, usable, powerful and different for everyday use. Any suggestions?.....................Aprilia Tuono r 1000cc V Twin.
Absolutely Bonkers. Fast as a sports bike. Easy to handle if you have the guts.
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Tempted by something fun, usable, powerful and different for everyday use. Any suggestions?.....................Aprilia Tuono r 1000cc V Twin.
Absolutely Bonkers. Fast as a sports bike. Easy to handle if you have the guts.
My thoughts exactly when funds allow
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Tempted by something fun, usable, powerful and different for everyday use. Any suggestions?.....................Aprilia Tuono r 1000cc V Twin.
Absolutely Bonkers. Fast as a sports bike. Easy to handle if you have the guts.
Well, technically it is a sports bike as all they did was take the fairing off the RSV and put a handlebar on. Are you challenging me to see if I can handle your Tuono? I'm up for that! :lol
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BMW RR1000
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I'd have her, it would surely be as good ride as a fazer:
(http://imitationobjects.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/stoya610.jpg)
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I'd have her, it would surely be as good ride as a fazer:
([url]http://imitationobjects.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/stoya610.jpg[/url])
Wouldn't last as long and would cost more :lol
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Seat padding looks a bit thin, and could do with bigger heated grips...
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I would not mind a BMW F800 GT
(http://www.bmw-motorrad.co.uk/managed_images/motorcycles/colour_options/f-800-gt-dark-graphite-metallic-large.jpg)
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I would not mind a BMW F800 GT
([url]http://www.bmw-motorrad.co.uk/managed_images/motorcycles/colour_options/f-800-gt-dark-graphite-metallic-large.jpg[/url])
Even WITH a Fazer, the F800 looks more comfy for touring.
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I would not mind a BMW F800 GT
([url]http://www.bmw-motorrad.co.uk/managed_images/motorcycles/colour_options/f-800-gt-dark-graphite-metallic-large.jpg[/url])
Even WITH a Fazer, the F800 looks more comfy for touring.
Agreed although I think the f800 gt is a good all rounder, as I do lots of town riding plus the occasional longer ride. I think they get around 60-70 mpg as well.
I think the 1200 rt would be too big for city riding.
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I would like a custom Cafe Racer using a TRX engine & frame
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I would like a custom Cafe Racer using a TRX engine & frame
Chris, see latest issue of Practical Sportsbikes - some lovely modded TRXs in there :)
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The only bike I'd have in the garage is the blackbird as I love it to bits :lol