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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner => Topic started by: Lank on 16 June 2013, 09:12:38 pm

Title: screens
Post by: Lank on 16 June 2013, 09:12:38 pm
which is best? the review on the below states it makes no difference to air flow. I don't want to spend hundreds on a screen but I also want something that makes a difference.


http://www.amazon.co.uk/YAMAHA-FZS1000-Double-bubble-screen/dp/B00A8KDVBM/ref=sr_1_9?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1371412987&sr=1-9&keywords=double+bubble+yamaha (http://www.amazon.co.uk/YAMAHA-FZS1000-Double-bubble-screen/dp/B00A8KDVBM/ref=sr_1_9?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1371412987&sr=1-9&keywords=double+bubble+yamaha)
Title: Re: screens
Post by: stevierst on 16 June 2013, 09:20:56 pm
D/B screens are generally an improvement over oe screens. I've learned over the years that the touring style huge screens generally create turbulence and a lot of noise, so I'd tend to avoid them.

Can you have a ride on a bike that has one fitted to see if you like it or not? That'd be the only way to make sure.
Title: Re: screens
Post by: Lank on 16 June 2013, 09:24:08 pm
I had double bubbles on other bikes, on my GSXR it made massive improvements, on my old bandit it was minimal difference.


might just take a punt on it
Title: Re: screens
Post by: bwizz on 17 June 2013, 10:40:01 am
I don't think you will notice much difference on a thou, tried 3 now, i've settled on a vario as its the quitest but i still get quite a battering at 80 mph
although my foxeye 600 looks similar the screen seems to be mounted higher and the home made vario works well on it
Title: Re: screens
Post by: Lank on 17 June 2013, 11:02:44 am
I don't think you will notice much difference on a thou, tried 3 now, i've settled on a vario as its the quitest but i still get quite a battering at 80 mph
although my foxeye 600 looks similar the screen seems to be mounted higher and the home made vario works well on it


ill have a look at the vario, I dont think being 6 foot 4 ever helps  :\
Title: Re: screens
Post by: stevierst on 17 June 2013, 12:45:09 pm
ill have a look at the vario, I dont think being 6 foot 4 ever helps  :\
Being that tall you'd need an aircraft canopy to keep the wind off! :D :D
Title: Re: screens
Post by: kebab19 on 17 June 2013, 02:41:13 pm
Six foot four ? Perhaps Professor X will call & recruit you

Givi D129 screen might be more up your street, even it it does vibrate a bit up top

http://www.angelfire.com/ia/z/FZ1windscreen.htm (http://www.angelfire.com/ia/z/FZ1windscreen.htm)
Title: Re: screens
Post by: bwizz on 17 June 2013, 03:07:37 pm
Is it for a thou then? if so I don't think you will get any worthwhile inprovement , go bigger more noise!
Title: Re: screens
Post by: Lank on 17 June 2013, 03:19:46 pm
Six foot four ? Perhaps Professor X will call & recruit you

Givi D129 screen might be more up your street, even it it does vibrate a bit up top

[url]http://www.angelfire.com/ia/z/FZ1windscreen.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.angelfire.com/ia/z/FZ1windscreen.htm[/url])



Unfortunately my power is minimal. I have a trip to France in a coupld of weeks may just see how I get on.

Is it for a thou then? if so I don't think you will get any worthwhile inprovement , go bigger more noise!


Its not about noise (i wear earplugs) but my head bobbing around
Title: Re: screens
Post by: seangee on 17 June 2013, 05:05:47 pm
I'm 6'4" and did spend hundreds  :\ . Ended up using the OE screen for daily riding as I never found one significantly better. As others said - I could get better protection, but at the cost of (a lot) more noise.
Title: Re: screens
Post by: jeffco on 17 June 2013, 05:54:35 pm
I agree with seangee I spent hundreds on several screens including a Vario and ended up back with a powerbronze d/b     good luck!
Title: Re: screens
Post by: bwizz on 18 June 2013, 12:12:51 pm
Personaly when I have been abroad I am a bit wary of the local speed cops/cameras  ,The cameras  are in grey boxes usually in the middle of dual carriagways
so I am happy to keep my speed down  so wind batter has not been a problem,
Title: Re: screens
Post by: slimwilly on 19 June 2013, 06:01:28 pm
We got flashed so many times i had to wear sun glasses :lol
Title: Re: screens
Post by: mickdel on 21 June 2013, 10:43:15 am
We got flashed so many times i had to wear sun glasses :lol


I'm 6"3 and the OE gave me huge pressure on the shoulders and head when accelerating or riding at speed.  A DB moved turbulence off shoulders, to head,  so got head bobble at high speed.   Putting butt to rear of seat a bit and slight lean forward cured it.   Much better than the OE screen, which was just plain torture at over 80.   Aching arms and shoulders.    DBs are pretty cheap.   Considered a vario, but read so way too many negative reports about them.
Title: Re: screens
Post by: Strifae on 21 June 2013, 10:27:18 pm
Has anyone tried to Airblade DB screen for their gen 2? They are going quite cheap on eBay and wondered if worth a punt
Title: Re: screens
Post by: FuZzBoM on 21 June 2013, 11:40:58 pm
I am 6'3 and have a powerbronze DB screen. I personally find it a little better than the OE but I also have a set of Renthal bars and so I sit a little more upright due to the bars.. (well it feels that way anyway)
Possibly worth a punt and can always sell it if not for you. In truth I think the protection is fairly good for a half faired bike.

The best thing I have ever done is follow my mate on his R1200GS on motorways and sit in his wake lol.. Like some sort of dead zone behind him.  :lol
Title: Re: screens
Post by: marcusfordus on 22 June 2013, 07:47:37 am
I'm 6'4" and did spend hundreds  :\ . Ended up using the OE screen for daily riding as I never found one significantly better. As others said - I could get better protection, but at the cost of (a lot) more noise.

I've had Seans vario off him and if you are 6ft it works a treat, right up to the point of keeping rain off you when traveling and a rate of knots when you have the deflector set at max height.

Your extra 4" must be in the buffer area of air where it's always going to blast the helmet.


(Thanks Sean, the screen is perfect for me).
Title: Re: screens
Post by: jeffco on 22 June 2013, 07:54:54 am
Im 6ft ..15st  and thought the Vario was a huge disappointment, Tried it all ways up for a month  then sold it.  :\   
Title: Re: screens
Post by: marcusfordus on 22 June 2013, 08:00:31 am
Im 6ft ..15st  and thought the Vario was a huge disappointment, Tried it all ways up for a month  then sold it.  :\

Standard bars or Renthals ?

My bars are Renthal copies and are a touch further back than std. so maybe that's why it works for me.
Title: Re: screens
Post by: slimwilly on 23 June 2013, 07:20:38 am
Screens are like the bikes themselves, you need about four different ones in the garage depending on what you are doing that day.


My FZ1s came with a huge screen, i guess a touring screen, i chopped off about 6 inches and later tinkered with it to make a Vario type hinged top.
Now on the Italy trip it pissed down most of the way there so i was able to adjust it on the move and also check how the other three were coping with the sometimes torrential downpours.
I remanied dry except for the feet, even though i had carrier bags on my feet, it may of bee sweat,haha sweaty feet sydrome.


The screen in the upright position kept the whole of my body dry,deflected the rain up over the top,the others especially the gixxer 750 ,small screen was very wet top half.
(http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr61/slimwilly/screenup_zpsdd2a4733.jpg) (http://s470.photobucket.com/user/slimwilly/media/screenup_zpsdd2a4733.jpg.html)


When the conditions dried up the taller screen meant that with the increase in our speed the wind now being lifted to the helmet area was buffeted and noisey so i lowered the screen and the noise just dissapeared
(http://i470.photobucket.com/albums/rr61/slimwilly/screendown_zpsb462a61a.jpg) (http://s470.photobucket.com/user/slimwilly/media/screendown_zpsb462a61a.jpg.html)


But i shall soon be getting a smaller double bubble for English riding and keep a vario for touring,,it is a must, in strong head winds i lifted the screen and rode slightly in a ducked down position to get below the wind , that works to but dont get back ache as thats not good.
Title: Re: screens
Post by: bwizz on 23 June 2013, 01:04:48 pm
I got a set of vario adjustable from the mri importer , seem to remember they were around £25. I then cut the top of a standard screen to make the top vane .
Strange how it is very effective on my 600 , but a proper vario not so on my thou.
cheeper option than paying £100 + and being disappointed
Title: Re: screens
Post by: boxer1 on 29 July 2013, 06:26:32 pm
If you hav,nt sorted a screen i have a vario for sale, used once on a trip round scotland, was excellant, let me know if you are interested, Martin. :D
Title: Re: screens
Post by: sure2ride on 29 July 2013, 07:23:20 pm
I've had Skidmarx double bubbles on all my fazers, and been well pleased.  :)
Title: Re: screens
Post by: AyJay on 29 July 2013, 08:06:49 pm
6 foot 1, and I wouldn't be without my Givi touring. As others have said, they are noisy, but with the standard screen, 80 was the speed at which motorways stopped being tolerable. Now I can stay sat up all the way to 130. They also introduce a bit of a weave at really high speed (150 plus), but as I said, I wouldn't be without it.
Title: Re: screens
Post by: Noj on 30 July 2013, 12:21:19 am
In my opinion, the only screen that made a noticeable improvement is the Givi. I don't think it's the best looking but it's best single improvement made to the Fazer 1000 Gen2
Title: Re: screens
Post by: Tmation on 30 July 2013, 03:52:33 pm
I have tried nearly every make of screen and they all have drawbacks, but basically the fairing is too far away from the rider and changing screens doesn't make that much different.
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[/size]These are my personal opinions, but as stated it depends on your size and what you are wearing that makes as much difference.

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[/size]For day to day normal riding I like the shorter street fighter screen its like riding a big naked (no noise or buffeting but 80 max speed).
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[/size]The standard screen put air on to my chest which the goes up into my helmet making my eyes water (I am 5'10")
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[/size]Most double bubbles make my head shake at above 80-90 mph, some so much I couldn't see, and they just get worse as speed increases.
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[/size]Not tried a Givi touring but most people like them, other touring screens including Yams own one just make more noise.
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[/size]MRA Vario, good idea but main screen same as standard so too short, mostly just makes more noise.
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[/size]Tech 7 (cross between DB and Flip) not bad and only cost £20 in Busters sale)
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[/size]I am now using a Puig DB with an MRA X-Creen fitted. Just returned from 1800 mile trip to Germany, with blade right up I can cruise at 120 on autobhan  without too much buffeting although it is noisy. Form normal riding I put blade down but angled away from screen and it allowed 90 without problems.
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[/size]Puig DB
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[/size]Puig DB with X-Creen (extra height of DB helps)
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(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh285/Tmation/Photobucket%20Desktop%20-%20Kevin%20Smiths%20Computer/IMG_0088_zps8d96a9ff.jpg)


(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh285/Tmation/Photobucket%20Desktop%20-%20Kevin%20Smiths%20Computer/IMG_0089_zpseebfe17b.jpg)


Tech 7 Screen


(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh285/Tmation/UKSummer10080.jpg)


Zero Gravity screen, I had to cut sides off as the handle bars fouled on them, it was also the worst (for me) in terms of noise and buffeting.


(http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh285/Tmation/crg.jpg)

Title: Re: screens
Post by: solorider on 31 July 2013, 10:32:38 pm
I modified a standard blackbird screen which I just had collecting dust in the garage, the screen is a low screen but is a lot wider than the fazer screen, the outcome is no buffeting at all, but you do still get wind noise as you do get on the standard screen, but it was a lot more comfortable than the original screen, im goinf to try a spoiler on top to see if I can push the air over my head.