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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: ChristoT on 12 June 2013, 12:56:01 pm
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Right, sorry, here's yet another tyre thread (the forum lives off these, doesn't it)
Here's the situation: I do a lot of touring miles, but do like flinging it about too - they don't call me Merv the Swerve for nothing! I currently run Maxxis Supermaxx, and to be quite honest, I'm sick of them. The rear has only done about 6000 miles, and they're much too pedestrian for my taste. What I'm after is a set of tyres that won't cost the earth but will handle pretty well. Budget is a bit of an issue though, so will have to scour the internet.
In a nutshell, what I'm after is:
--> Decent durability
--> Sporty enough to scrape footrests without worrying I'm about to lose the back end
All I really know is I sure as hell don't want to go back to the Maxxis! Waay too boring for my taste. Oh, and for any couriers, paupers etc, I'll put up my current front tyre when I change sets. It's only about half worn (if that), no punctures, no nasty gouges, and quite well scrubbed. ;)
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Did you like the feel of mine when you rode it? (Bar the ridiculously bad engine)
If so, I have BT023's at the moment - tempted on trying PR3 or S20 as my next set but I shall see how funds are at the time
(Nothing wrong with my BT023's but its the only tyre I've ever tried apart from some bad Maxxis ones)
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Did you like the feel of mine when you rode it? (Bar the ridiculously bad engine)
If so, I have BT023's at the moment - tempted on trying PR3 or S20 as my next set but I shall see how funds are at the time
(Nothing wrong with my BT023's but its the only tyre I've ever tried apart from some bad Maxxis ones)
I quite liked the ride, but I never really thrashed yours, no sharp conering or good angles. I'm curious how well they perform towards the edge of the envelope: town riding is fine on the Maxxis (bar the lousy longevity), but the minute you get to twistys, you're cursing how badly they handle.
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Not in your option list but I believe Metzeler Z6 sports-touring tyres are meant to be very good and come in FZS600 front tyre size. I intend to try them next
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Metezlers M5 are the best I have ever used especially in the grip to the edge of the tyre and handling. PR3 are a close second. What I really like about the metezlers is thir ability to hold the line even when brakeing
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Metezlers M5 are the best I have ever used especially in the grip to the edge of the tyre and handling. PR3 are a close second. What I really like about the metezlers is thir ability to hold the line even when brakeing
Probably get an M5 front next based on your opinion, just wearing out an old M1 now.
I'm still happy with the BT021 rear so i think i'll stick with that for as long as i can, it suits my riding just fine.
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I set my fastest trackday time with the M1 and the only tyre that I ever had the same feeling with was the M5. I have PR3 on at present but going back to the M5swhen they wear out.
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I set my fastest trackday time with the M1 and the only tyre that I ever had the same feeling with was the M5. I have PR3 on at present but going back to the M5swhen they wear out.
I bought 2 x M1's from M&P in their clearance sale for £35 each, and i don't s'pose i'll find any more now, so the M5 makes sense. :)
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I'm going to support the maxxis, as I've had a few sets of them, and been off the edge of each rear easily in the dry (i ride like a wuss in the wet). I do mostly commuting miles on the boxeye, but there definately ain't no chicken strips on them! My ride to work is 20 miles each way over a good set of twisties.
I'm no cornering god, but they feel no different to the bt021's that were on it before I got it, or the various other brands and styles I've used on fazers over the last ten years of ownership. I've chased bigger bikes on these tyres, my bro-in-law has ridden it, and he rides fairly hard. He said it felt fine to him.
I think a lot of the tyre choice is advert driven, and tbh most of us 'average' riders wouldn't know the difference between an expensive brand and a maxxis if side by side tests were done without knowing what they are.
I think its all in yer head, just like people who use posh sports tyres for the road, it doesn't make you any better/faster, just costs you more money!
Ill put the soap box away now and take my beating. ::)
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The main priority for me is that they have to be good in the wet, if they are then there shouldn't really be any issues in dry weather.
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I think a lot of the tyre choice is advert driven, and tbh most of us 'average' riders wouldn't know the difference between an expensive brand and a maxxis if side by side tests were done without knowing what they are.
I think its all in yer head, just like people who use posh sports tyres for the road, it doesn't make you any better/faster, just costs you more money!
Ill put the soap box away now and take my beating. : :)
I don't think many Gen 1 riders would go back to the standard fit MEZ3s or 4s or whatever they were. Those things wouldn't grip in the dry! I'm not the world's fastest rider, but I absolutely, definitely notice the difference between different sets of tyres. I'm on PR2s at the moment because they give me confidence in the wet, as well as being OK in the dry.
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I need new tyres soon and am going to go for Metzeler z8 interacts. Have the best reviews that I found and cost the same as all the other bridgestone, michelin etc. Current tyre is dunlop sportmax qualifier, not too bad in the dry but rear is done at 5000 and not great in the wet. My dad has avon storm 2 on his sv650 and really likes them, they are wearing very well after 6k miles too.
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I'm going to support the maxxis, as I've had a few sets of them, and been off the edge of each rear easily in the dry (i ride like a wuss in the wet). I do mostly commuting miles on the boxeye, but there definately ain't no chicken strips on them! My ride to work is 20 miles each way over a good set of twisties.
I'm no cornering god, but they feel no different to the bt021's that were on it before I got it, or the various other brands and styles I've used on fazers over the last ten years of ownership. I've chased bigger bikes on these tyres, my bro-in-law has ridden it, and he rides fairly hard. He said it felt fine to him.
I think a lot of the tyre choice is advert driven, and tbh most of us 'average' riders wouldn't know the difference between an expensive brand and a maxxis if side by side tests were done without knowing what they are.
I think its all in yer head, just like people who use posh sports tyres for the road, it doesn't make you any better/faster, just costs you more money!
Ill put the soap box away now and take my beating. : :)
My problem - I ride it hard round corners, and as you say, I run out of tyre on the rear! I'd like something that gives me the ability to go a bit further.
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If you ride the coners hard and come on the throttle early on the way out of the corner the PR3s will wear out the sides first you will end up changing the rear with plenty thread on the centre and nothing on the sides. Speaking from experience. Not a trait I particularly like in a road tyre.
The M5 wore all round better, but wore the centre out first with the sides close behind, had sharper handling and were less inclined to sit the bike up when braking hard turning into the corners and trailing the front through the corner. It was great fun outbraking a Gsxr 1000 and R1 into corners on a bike run with 2 up a few years ago with the confidence the M5s gave. :lol They were destroying me on the straights :'(
Would love to know how some foccers get more than 5000 miles out of any brand of rear tyre. :eek I have worn out Metezler M1 rears in 2000 miles . My best ever was 6000 miles on a PR3, but that included a trip to France and Spain which helped equalise the wear on the left and right sides. My tuppence worth
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If you ride the coners hard and come on the throttle early on the way out of the corner the PR3s will wear out the sides first you will end up changing the rear with plenty thread on the centre and nothing on the sides. Speaking from experience. Not a trait I particularly like in a road tyre.
The M5 wore all round better, but wore the centre out first with the sides close behind, had sharper handling and were less inclined to sit the bike up when braking hard turning into the corners and trailing the front through the corner. It was great fun outbraking a Gsxr 1000 and R1 into corners on a bike run with 2 up a few years ago with the confidence the M5s gave. :lol They were destroying me on the straights :'(
Would love to know how some foccers get more than 5000 miles out of any brand of rear tyre. :eek I have worn out Metezler M1 rears in 2000 miles . My best ever was 6000 miles on a PR3, but that included a trip to France and Spain which helped equalise the wear on the left and right sides. My tuppence worth
M5s or PR3s? Spoilt for choice now! :lol
As for side wear, I do many motorway miles too, so not too worried about the sides wearing much faster than the centre. I'd just like a tyre that's easier to tip in to a corner than the Maxxis. They're not responsive enough for me.
Agreed on the mileage though. My front can probably do another 4000 miles, no probs, but my rear sure as hell can't!
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Really? I thought 5000 miles was quite poor, like a bit less than average? Maybe I have too high expectations then, I've heard claims of the pr2/3, bt023 z8 etc all getting great mileage as well as having great performance wet and dry, people claiming around 8-10k miles. I've only had these dunlops on mine so don't actually know what other tyres wear and grip like yet.
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got this mail through about "special offers" on Maxxis tyres - not sure if the prices are good though :
http://2wheeljunkie.co.uk/index.php?_a=viewCat&searchStr=maxxis&x=-1072&y=-58 (http://2wheeljunkie.co.uk/index.php?_a=viewCat&searchStr=maxxis&x=-1072&y=-58)
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got this mail through about "special offers" on Maxxis tyres - not sure if the prices are good though :
[url]http://2wheeljunkie.co.uk/index.php?_a=viewCat&searchStr=maxxis&x=-1072&y=-58[/url] ([url]http://2wheeljunkie.co.uk/index.php?_a=viewCat&searchStr=maxxis&x=-1072&y=-58[/url])
I paid about that last time. Regretted it soon after.
What do people say about the Pirellis? I had to Pirellis to my 125, and loved them! I'd be quite happy having them again, but curious as to what people think before I shell out.
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What do people say about the Pirellis? I had to Pirellis to my 125, and loved them! I'd be quite happy having them again, but curious as to what people think before I shell out.
Very good tyres. Riding Diablos on boxeye - nice.
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Remember that some of the latest tyres don't have a 110/70-17 front tyre option, or charge extra £££ if they do.
Seems to be a move towards 120/60 or 120/70 fronts by the manufacturers, I suppose they are the most popular front tyre sizes
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I'm going to support the maxxis, as I've had a few sets of them, and been off the edge of each rear easily in the dry (i ride like a wuss in the wet). I do mostly commuting miles on the boxeye, but there definately ain't no chicken strips on them! My ride to work is 20 miles each way over a good set of twisties.
I'm no cornering god, but they feel no different to the bt021's that were on it before I got it, or the various other brands and styles I've used on fazers over the last ten years of ownership. I've chased bigger bikes on these tyres, my bro-in-law has ridden it, and he rides fairly hard. He said it felt fine to him.
I think a lot of the tyre choice is advert driven, and tbh most of us 'average' riders wouldn't know the difference between an expensive brand and a maxxis if side by side tests were done without knowing what they are.
I think its all in yer head, just like people who use posh sports tyres for the road, it doesn't make you any better/faster, just costs you more money!
Ill put the soap box away now and take my beating. : :)
I will defend the Maxxis slightly as well as my opinion is based on the set I had. The problem with that is the crazy ass previous owner stuck a 120/70 on the front and a 180/55 on the rear which he failed to tell me had a nail through it so would slowly deflate itself. Maybe the proper sizes would have felt better, unfortunately I'm not willing to spend the money to find out :P
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Tried the Bridgestones and the Road 3s.
Personally I prefer the Pilots, they tip a bit faster into a corner which I like, and feel a bit more stable in the corner, and also seem to have a bit more wet grip. However if you're doing a lot of motorways, you may prefer the more "planted" feeling of the bridgestones when they're upright, and just live with the slightly slower feeling turn in speed.
Personally though, next time I come round for tyres I'll be checking out the new angels. Supposed to be extremely capable tyres, and you can ride them almost as though they're proper sports tyres apparently, as compared to the others where you can't take the piss outright.
That said, on standard footrests I imagine any of them will be enough to comfortably ground the pegs out!
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I do like the look of the Pirellis, just not sure what they're like in terms of longevity... :rolleyes
Does this look like a decent price for them?
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110-70-17-160-60-17-HR-Pirelli-Diablo-ROSSO-2-II-Motorcycle-Motorbike-Tyres-/300691554731?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item46029d01ab (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/110-70-17-160-60-17-HR-Pirelli-Diablo-ROSSO-2-II-Motorcycle-Motorbike-Tyres-/300691554731?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts_13&hash=item46029d01ab)
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You know those are H speed rated right? Should be enough but just so you are aware this means they are rated up to 130mph - just something to bear in mind
http://www.blackcircles.com/general/speedrating (http://www.blackcircles.com/general/speedrating)
Edit: Price seems about right - Black Circles has them for about £155 a set
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On 33hp, I max out at 110 anyway. But true, something to bear in mind.
Any more info on the Metzelers?
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Diablos are sporty and sticky, but wear a lot faster than sport-tourer tyres. I found them a bit unstable. They caused handlebar wobble at 80km/h too (Although my bike is not standard). On road I lean sharper with tourers BT021s now due the superior stability. I have even scrubbed a crash bobbin. On track I would stick to the Diablos.
H rated wouldn't pass Spanish MOT, as the original mount was W. Check your country's law. I think they will wear faster too. The codes are intended for only 10 minutes of use at that speed.
Next I will try BT023, the newer T30 or the Pilot Road 2. I've been told the PR3 works worse on very hot asphalt.
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I got some H rated Diablos - cheap. They wear fine. I almost never ride faster than 180 km/h. Highest steady speed I do is 160 km/h (motorway). Guess W speed rating is just Yamaha's safety margin. Though, I'm not heavy and neither is my pillon.
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It is good to know, incase economy becomes tighter and radars continue spreading over here. On the other hand I wouldn't consider W rating as safety margin. Fazer's top speed is way higher than H can endure (210km/h during 10 minutes).
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By the bye, how about the Contimotions? The ones I had on when I bought the bike were rubbish, but partially because they were very, very knackered. Any one got any inof, good or bad on 'em?
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It is good to know, incase economy becomes tighter and radars continue spreading over here. On the other hand I wouldn't consider W rating as safety margin. Fazer's top speed is way higher than H can endure (210km/h during 10 minutes).
Yes, agreed.
The only situation where, at least for me, it is safe to go over 200 km/h is the track. Apart from track, even on motorways, over 150 is dangerous, other drivers don't pay attention, move left without noticing you if you go much faster and you slam into them. Not to mention other roads (animals, careless drivers etc).
By the bye, how about the Contimotions? The ones I had on when I bought the bike were rubbish, but partially because they were very, very knackered. Any one got any inof, good or bad on 'em?
Not very good.
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Right, thanks.
I've found Diablo Rosso IIs at W rating though, so all is good. My final lineup is:
Bridgestone BT023 --> £183
Pirelli Diablo Rosso II --> £187
Michelin Pilot Road II --> £200
Metzeler Roadtec Z6 --> £154
Those are for bundle deals I've found on Ebay, all from the same shop to give a comparison.
Any thoughts about these 4? How do the Metzelers fare against the Maxxis?
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I don't know about what equipment you have to hand but do t forget you'll be paying more to get them fitted if you can't do it, it sometimes doesn't work out cheaper buying online then getting them fitted tbh, easy enough to shop around your local garages for prices too!
I was given a set of contimotions for free to do a video for them (continental) and got on with them well, but they only lasted 6000 miles, which in my experience was'nt that good, they're branded as sports touring but with that mileage? and the rear constantly stepped out on me but in a controlled manor tbh, so not so much sport either! For free I was happy with them but personally I wouldn't buy them!
Tyres are very personal, if you have the extra money pr3's are the best wearing, but as far as I'm aware the compound is supposed to be very very similar to the previous pr2's, the main difference being the extra water dispersing sipes on the 3's
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I don't know about what equipment you have to hand but do t forget you'll be paying more to get them fitted if you can't do it, it sometimes doesn't work out cheaper buying online then getting them fitted tbh, easy enough to shop around your local garages for prices too!
I was given a set of contimotions for free to do a video for them (continental) and got on with them well, but they only lasted 6000 miles, which in my experience was'nt that good, they're branded as sports touring but with that mileage? and the rear constantly stepped out on me but in a controlled manor tbh, so not so much sport either! For free I was happy with them but personally I wouldn't buy them!
Tyres are very personal, if you have the extra money pr3's are the best wearing, but as far as I'm aware the compound is supposed to be very very similar to the previous pr2's, the main difference being the extra water dispersing sipes on the 3's
Well, for my own budget, I'm adding about £50 for fitting down my local bike shop, and I'll get my carbs balanced at the same time.
Chatting to the bloke down the shop, he said the Michelins were sharper at tipping you in, and that they "fell" into the corners rather than going fluidly. Any comment?
I'm still trying my hare-brained attempts at knee down, albeit with a knee a good foot (maybe?) off the tarmac!
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Roadtec are too slippery - but I heard from several different folks that roads in England are more grippy and wear tyres quicker. For Serbia, I'd avoid Roadtec and rather go for Sportec model, but then again, sport tyres last long on our slippery pavement.
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Knee downs a different topic, don't force it!
All those tyres are more than capable, michelin's have a lovely feel to them, as with any tyre after you've scrubbed them in and start pushing more and more you get used to whatever their particular characteristics are so I wouldn't over think what anybody says about things 'tipping in' etc
My new Bridgestone S20 front was £80 fitted, that's why I mentioned asking around shops what they charge instead of the hassle of buying on line, waiting to be delivered then having to carry the tyres down the shop to be fitted!
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Knee downs a different topic, don't force it!
All those tyres are more than capable, michelin's have a lovely feel to them, as with any tyre after you've scrubbed them in and start pushing more and more you get used to whatever their particular characteristics are so I wouldn't over think what anybody says about things 'tipping in' etc
My new Bridgestone S20 front was £80 fitted, that's why I mentioned asking around shops what they charge instead of the hassle of buying on line, waiting to be delivered then having to carry the tyres down the shop to be fitted!
Do you prefer the PR2s or the PR3s? And what about those Metzelers? The price is certainly attractive, but not sure about grip and longevity... Any takers?
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Had PR2s on the 600 once and removed the front before it was fully worn. I could not trust it on very fast cornering, it always felt like the front was going to slide, it felt even worse on the 1000 and we took it off also before it was fully worn. The PR3 are miles ahead by comparsion in every way.
the Michelin 2CTs and Dunlop Sprotsmarts felt good, but do not come in the 110 size. I found the Roadsmarts good, but slower to warm up in comparsion the the PR3 and the M5s
The only bike I rode with Diablos was a Gisxer 600 and I stopped to check the tyres as I though they were down in pressure as it was very hard to turn in to the corners witout some serious counter steering. It was like riding a completly different bike when he fitted M5s to it. It was effortless dropping into the corners and felt like it was on rails.
A few post here are discussing different speed rating, I wonder about the insurance implications and possible MOT failures for fitting tyres below the recommend manufactures specifications.
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Had PR2s on the 600 once and removed the front before it was fully worn. I could not trust it on very fast cornering, it always felt like the front was going to slide, it felt even worse on the 1000 and we took it off also before it was fully worn. The PR3 are miles ahead by comparsion in every way.
the Michelin 2CTs and Dunlop Sprotsmarts felt good, but do not come in the 110 size. I found the Roadsmarts good, but slower to warm up in comparsion the the PR3 and the M5s
The only bike I rode with Diablos was a Gisxer 600 and I stopped to check the tyres as I though they were down in pressure as it was very hard to turn in to the corners witout some serious counter steering. It was like riding a completly different bike when he fitted M5s to it. It was effortless dropping into the corners and felt like it was on rails.
A few post here are discussing different speed rating, I wonder about the insurance implications and possible MOT failures for fitting tyres below the recommend manufactures specifications.
Thanks for that Unfazed!
All the tyres I've found (and all the prices above) are for W or better speed ratings. What brand are the M5s - Metzelers?
Has no-one ridden with Z6s fitted?
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Yes. SWEEET. :)
http://www.metzeler.com/site/com/products/tyres-catalogue/Sportecm5.html (http://www.metzeler.com/site/com/products/tyres-catalogue/Sportecm5.html)
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Yes the M5 are Metzelers. I did try the old Z6 and it was good, but road to the edge to easily, its limit ran out before my did . :lol I have not tried the new Z6 Interact.
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Dammit, there's too much bloody choice!! :lol
Now looking at the Pilot Road IIIs and those Metzeler M5s; I might have to toss a coin to decide!! The Bridgestones will be my fuck-it-I-can't-be-bothered-to-look-anymore backup. :)
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Dammit, there's too much bloody choice!! :lol
Now looking at the Pilot Road IIIs and those Metzeler M5s; I might have to toss a coin to decide!! The Bridgestones will be my fuck-it-I-can't-be-bothered-to-look-anymore backup. :)
Get one of each.....sorted!
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Dammit, there's too much bloody choice!! :lol
Now looking at the Pilot Road IIIs and those Metzeler M5s; I might have to toss a coin to decide!! The Bridgestones will be my fuck-it-I-can't-be-bothered-to-look-anymore backup. :)
Get one of each.....sorted!
If I could... As it is, one set represents half my food budget this month... :'(
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Dammit, there's too much bloody choice!! :lol
Now looking at the Pilot Road IIIs and those Metzeler M5s; I might have to toss a coin to decide!! The Bridgestones will be my fuck-it-I-can't-be-bothered-to-look-anymore backup. :)
Get one of each.....sorted!
If I could... As it is, one set represents half my food budget this month... :'(
I meant get an M5 front and a PR3 rear :)
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Call me old fashioned, but I prefer to stick with sets. It's why I'll be getting rid of the Maxxis front I currently have, even though there's 4mm of tread left on it.
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Nothing wrong with mixing tyres, but personal preference and all that.
You want longevity then pr3's, I've not had less than 15000 out the rear on the 3 I've had! They cost a little more but in the long run are cheaper per mile and nt at the forfeit of grip!
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Nothing wrong with mixing tyres, but personal preference and all that.
You want longevity then pr3's, I've not had less than 15000 out the rear on the 3 I've had! They cost a little more but in the long run are cheaper per mile and nt at the forfeit of grip!
I think I'll go for the PR3s then, they seem to be getting the most rave reviews. And they can't be worse than the Maxxis I have at the moment! Now, about knee down... (It ain't for nothing I'm known as Merv the Swerve!! :lol )
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You're only across the road from me (I'm in Berkhamsted) if you fancy an afternoon out and a 3rd parties opinion on your body positioning I'm free next weekend (22/23)!
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Nothing wrong with mixing tyres, but personal preference and all that.
You want longevity then pr3's, I've not had less than 15000 out the rear on the 3 I've had! They cost a little more but in the long run are cheaper per mile and nt at the forfeit of grip!
I think I'll go for the PR3s then, they seem to be getting the most rave reviews. And they can't be worse than the Maxxis I have at the moment! Now, about knee down... (It ain't for nothing I'm known as Merv the Swerve!! :lol )
You won't go far wrong with PR3s and they are definitely way better than the maxxis.
When is your restriction due to be binned?
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Nothing wrong with mixing tyres, but personal preference and all that.
You want longevity then pr3's, I've not had less than 15000 out the rear on the 3 I've had! They cost a little more but in the long run are cheaper per mile and nt at the forfeit of grip!
I think I'll go for the PR3s then, they seem to be getting the most rave reviews. And they can't be worse than the Maxxis I have at the moment! Now, about knee down... (It ain't for nothing I'm known as Merv the Swerve!! :lol )
You won't go far wrong with PR3s and they are definitely way better than the maxxis.
When is your restriction due to be binned?
Not for another 12 months...
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Ooooh, if you get the PR3's it would be nice to try them out on your bike :) Thinking about them for my next set potentially
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Nothing wrong with mixing tyres, but personal preference and all that.
You want longevity then pr3's, I've not had less than 15000 out the rear on the 3 I've had! They cost a little more but in the long run are cheaper per mile and nt at the forfeit of grip!
How do you get 15000 miles from a rear tyre? Is it all motorway riding you do or what?
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Ooooh, if you get the PR3's it would be nice to try them out on your bike :) Thinking about them for my next set potentially
You mean try a bike that works properly? :b
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Ooooh, if you get the PR3's it would be nice to try them out on your bike :) Thinking about them for my next set potentially
You mean try a bike that works properly? :b
ooooooouch :lol
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I have pr3's and they are the most sure footed tyre I have used for wet or greasy conditions. Hope I get 15000 miles out of mine but I think 8000 is more likely :)
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I had them on my tiger 1050, the rear one didn't last long, probably because I was nailing it everyhere! Probably no more than 4k out if the rear. Good tyres though.
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As other posters have pointed out , this whole tyre thing is in your head. not sure how tyres can be defined as boring, If you want good mileage stick to sports touring , if you want to tear around grounding footrests get sports tyres. simple choice, 33 bhp should not stress tyres anyhow. tyres are like oils.spark plugs , screens very subjective!
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As other posters have pointed out , this whole tyre thing is in your head. not sure how tyres can be defined as boring, If you want good mileage stick to sports touring , if you want to tear around grounding footrests get sports tyres. simple choice, 33 bhp should not stress tyres anyhow. tyres are like oils.spark plugs , screens very subjective!
I suppose I'm after a tyre that doesn't exist in that respect!!
The Maxxis I have send me to sleep round corners, they're way too shallow (not enough curvature) for my taste. Lousy longevity too.
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Nothing wrong with mixing tyres, but personal preference and all that.
You want longevity then pr3's, I've not had less than 15000 out the rear on the 3 I've had! They cost a little more but in the long run are cheaper per mile and nt at the forfeit of grip!
How do you get 15000 miles from a rear tyre? Is it all motorway riding you do or what?
A lot of motorway miles, which is worse because its the middles that wear out!
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15000 miles out of a rear tyre ???
what do you do carry the bike in a van ?
ive tried allsorts of tyres on a mixture of bikes over the years and the best ive ever had is 4-4500 miles from a rear ( maybe its the way i ride) but most my mates do roughly same
maybe you could share your riding technique with all of us :lol :lol :lol
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I had 13k out of my rear PR2, only replaced it due to a puncture and it had plenty of tread left :( Managed 21k on the front before I had both replaced.
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I had 13k out of my rear PR2, only replaced it due to a puncture and it had plenty of tread left :( Managed 21k on the front before I had both replaced.
You must've have had helium filled tyres whilst riding on bubble wrap?
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The front one still had a (tiny) bit of tread left, the rear was down to the knobbly bits after 8k, that one was a Dunlop Sportmax Qualifier. Most of my riding is in a straight line unfortunately, the PR2s dual compound setup is excellent though and I've had a new pair fitted a couple of weeks ago.
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I've used Dunlop Roadsmarts for the last 3 years. Admittedly on a much heavier bike (R1100s) though - but they worked fine on my CBR600, so reckon I might try them out on this too. Always found they stick like poop to a blanket and very good in the wet.
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currently on Metzeler z8, very good tyre but in all honesty to much tyre for my type of riding, I'll be trying the Conti Motion next.
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I've used Dunlop Roadsmarts for the last 3 years. Admittedly on a much heavier bike (R1100s) though - but they worked fine on my CBR600, so reckon I might try them out on this too. Always found they stick like poop to a blanket and very good in the wet.
+1 had them on my first Fazer 1000 great tyre.
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just done 700 miles on pilot road 3s and they are superb much better than the bt23s they replaced edge to edge performance great feedback 110 out of 100.
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just done 700 miles on pilot road 3s and they are superb much better than the bt23s they replaced edge to edge performance great feedback 110 out of 100.
Well, I've had the PR3s fitted for quite a while, and loving them. They just inspire so much confidence, there's none of the "oh shit!" wobbly moments when the rear slips a bit that I had a lot on the Maxxis tyres. Even today, in the damp / wet, the tyres were reaching down, grabbing the road by the scruff of the neck and warning it to give them grip - or else. They're just so good!