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Title: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Enceladus on 12 June 2013, 10:14:35 am
was driving in my cage on friday night and had this complete nutter overtake me and about 3 others going into a 30 zone weaving in and out of traffic.
got it on my dash cam.
is there any way i can send this video to the coppers to get something done about it ?
thanks :)
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: snapper on 12 June 2013, 10:38:33 am
I have no idea but Im sure there is ! but the'll probably do nothing !  if it was a bike on the other hand !
 
you could try a quick call to your local police station, if you can find the number ? if not 101 non emergency number might help
 
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: andybesy on 12 June 2013, 11:22:19 am
I would dial 101 (the police non-emergency number) and ask the question.

Even if they don't prosecute, they'll likely drop round the registered owner's house for a word in his ear.

I know people who've been on the end of this - and deservedly so - splashing people with puddles is not nice! But shows they do often act even in absence of evidence.

Then I'd post it to YouTube with the reg in the video name so that it'll come up in a search for that reg number.

Then I'd post a linky here so we can all watch the muppet

Andy
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Doddsie on 12 June 2013, 12:41:55 pm
Id just get over it!!!!!!   :rolleyes
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Enceladus on 12 June 2013, 12:47:11 pm
Id just get over it!!!!!!   :rolleyes
normally i'd just let it go, but as he was overtaking vehicles well into a 30 mph zone that's more than i'm willing to let go.
if he does this too much it won't be long before someone gets knocked over or worse killed.
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Doddsie on 12 June 2013, 01:12:48 pm
Ok so the bloke was a cock, but if your gonna drive round with a cam on your dash and report every twat on the road to the police youre gonna be a busy chap!!
 Splashing people in puddles might not be nice but its hardly the crime of the century and its bloody funny. If your gonna tie the plod up reporting stuff like that, dont moan when they are late coming to your house when your bike gets nicked. They really have got better things to do!!!!
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Skippernick on 12 June 2013, 01:17:57 pm
Ok so the bloke was a cock, but if your gonna drive round with a cam on your dash and report every twat on the road to the police youre gonna be a busy chap!!


So with that in mind all twats on the roads should just be let off then?
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: adeejaysdelight on 12 June 2013, 01:19:42 pm
I would report it and stick it on Youtube, with the reg number as said. I don't have one of these sportscams, but I think I will get one for this very reason. How many times have you been cut up by some toolbag and nothing is done about it.
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Doddsie on 12 June 2013, 01:23:05 pm




So with that in mind all twats on the roads should just be let off then?



 Youve never done anything even remotely silly ever then?????
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: smithfz on 12 June 2013, 01:57:00 pm
 :rolleyes
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Hedgetrimmer on 12 June 2013, 02:15:15 pm
I'd probably curse them at the time, then forget about it. If that's how they ride, they'll get their come-uppance in due time, hopefully without harming anyone else, but I can't change the world.
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: stevierst on 12 June 2013, 02:46:39 pm
That's the problem, they just might hurt someone if they carry on like that. They need reporting!
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Doddsie on 12 June 2013, 03:58:14 pm
Then maybe we should all sit outside squires every saturday with dash cams on and report every speeder and wheelie thats seen???? Cant believe there is anyone on here that hasnt done 80 up the motorway, how would you feel if you got some saddo going to the police with video evidence just cos they didnt think you were driving safely????


 Might have been stupid but one was hurt, forget it,
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Grahamm on 12 June 2013, 04:37:42 pm
splashing people with puddles is not nice!


Quote
Driving through a puddle to splash bystanders is an offence of "careless, and inconsiderate, driving" under the Road Traffic Act section 3 and carries a fine of up to £2,500.

Four years ago, a driver who admitted soaking a workman by driving through a puddle was fined £150 and given three penalty points by magistrates in Yeovil.


http://news.sky.com/story/731893/driver-charged-for-splashing-school-kids (http://news.sky.com/story/731893/driver-charged-for-splashing-school-kids)
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Doddsie on 12 June 2013, 04:42:33 pm
But its still funny!!!  :lol
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Chillum on 12 June 2013, 04:46:32 pm
Yeah, I suppose getting soaked by someone driving through a puddle is funny - as long as you're in the dry.

Try having that done to you on the way to an interview.

I don't want a nanny state, but neither do I want a lawless society. Zero tolerance is the way to go - if we don't like the laws being enforced then lobby for them to be changed.
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: andybesy on 12 June 2013, 04:50:57 pm
It was a mate of mine who got reported after doing it to a bus stop full of people.

Police knocked on his door and basically said "don't be a pratt".  :rollin  I thought that was a fairly balanced way to deal with it.

I've had it done to me a few times when walking to work. Can I see the funny side? Yes. But it sucks to turn up to work piss wet through.

Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Skippernick on 12 June 2013, 05:03:07 pm




So with that in mind all twats on the roads should just be let off then?



 Youve never done anything even remotely silly ever then?????


Speeding yes i admit weaving through traffic in a 30 limit whilst going faster than 30. NOPE. because i'm not a twat.
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Doddsie on 12 June 2013, 05:04:17 pm
Yeah, zero tollerance...... Everyone take your loud cans off your bikes, put your big number plates back on and clear visors. NEVER EVER break the speed limit EVER. Put all those headlight mods back to normal if your running on main beam, do not do wheelies or carry a pen knife in your pocket.... etc etc.
  A bloke overtook in a thirty and weaved between the traffic, If he got caught then I dont have a problem with him being nicked for it, but do we really want jo public running to the police with video camera evidence every time some one does something wrong??


 
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Skippernick on 12 June 2013, 05:07:05 pm
Yeah, zero tollerance...... Everyone take your loud cans off your bikes, put your big number plates back on and clear visors. NEVER EVER break the speed limit EVER. Put all those headlight mods back to normal if your running on main beam, do not do wheelies or carry a pen knife in your pocket.... etc etc.
  A bloke overtook in a thirty and weaved between the traffic, If he got caught then I dont have a problem with him being nicked for it, but do we really want jo public running to the police with video camera evidence every time some one does something wrong??


Yes because thats the only way, because there are no traffic police any more so he won't get caught.
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: caretaker on 12 June 2013, 05:08:43 pm
lets face it, we all ride fast at times, but mostly on roads where there is less chance of killing or maiming someone. but if someone is a danger to the public especially where children are, i would try and get something done about it. years ago there was an old fella who coudnt drive or see very well and would weave about and we thought it was funny. one day his foot slipped off the clutch and he sailed into a lady walking past, severing her leg at the knee. it wouldnt have happened if i had made that call. the guy you mentioned may not get prosecuted, but a visit from plod wouldnt do him any harm.
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Doddsie on 12 June 2013, 05:14:21 pm
The point here is.... You might be speeding where you think its safe, but someone else might see you and think you are driving/riding like a twat. Do you want everyone to video you and hand it to the police???


  If I parked up near box hill or squires videoing bikes and handed it into the police. Id expect to get lynched.
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: stevierst on 12 June 2013, 05:30:17 pm
Dodsie, where do you think the complaints to police come from, outer space? A lot of them ARE from the general public.
If you think something isn't right, report it. No matter how well you THINK you know the law, ill bet In reality all you really know is the highway code. Traffic law is considerably more complex than that. Let the cops decide if any, what action to take. Its their job believe it or not!
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: snapper on 12 June 2013, 05:44:40 pm
I think we need to understand that theres riding or driving like a knob !  something we all do or have done at times yes I did say ALL
 and then theres riding or driving like a knob thats dangours ! and a slap on the wrist just isnt good enough !
 
The difficulty is who are we to judge ?
 
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: taylor on 12 June 2013, 05:54:49 pm
it prob was an unmarked police car :lol .
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Andy FZS on 12 June 2013, 05:57:19 pm
I had a bit of a rant at a couple of men in a car that cut me up once they just held up some sort of police id and drove off..:-\
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Doddsie on 12 June 2013, 05:59:03 pm
I just find it very sad that someone would drive round in their car with a cam on the dash, then take it to the police when they see something they dont like. I just hope this bloke never drives to any bike meets around the country cos he is gonna have a field day!!!
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Punkstig on 12 June 2013, 06:00:23 pm

I ride with a gopro and see arseholes many many times every day, do I send that to the police? No.
Do I stick it on youtube? Occasionally.
I really can't be arsed to go through the rigmoral of giving details to the police, as I'm going through an accident claim atm I've pulled the majority of my videos down under advice of solicitors, as soon as its finalised they will go back up.


If you believe the driving was dangerous and you feel that a visit to the cop shop is needed then go for it, if thats what you need for peace of mind then that's your choice,  if you're unsure stick it up on youtube give us the link and we'll all comment on whether the muppet deserves a knock on the door by plod or not!
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: snapper on 12 June 2013, 06:01:00 pm
I stopped a car once while on my bike , car had darkened windows it pulled out in front of me and drove off with no lights on . pulled up next to it at traffic lights knocked on the window two blokes sat in the front back seats were full of coppers ! i could hardly speak i was lauging so hard ! they must of thought i was mad !
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: smithfz on 12 June 2013, 06:03:52 pm
Nothing winds me up more than a dash cam!!
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: snapper on 12 June 2013, 06:04:20 pm
"I just find it very sad that someone would drive round in their car with a cam on the dash, then take it to the police when they see something they dont like. I just hope this bloke never drives to any bike meets around the country cos he is gonna have a field day"
 
have a look on you tube if you havent just search car crash compliation ! youll be there for hours , some of it is so scary , i guess its the latest thing to have a camera on your dash in russia
 
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: richfzs on 12 June 2013, 07:23:11 pm
they do it in russia due to the amount of insurance fraud that was going on (and probably the poor standard pof driving as well!)
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: smithfz on 12 June 2013, 08:11:41 pm
Nothing winds me up more than a bloody dash cam!!!
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: dBfazer600 on 12 June 2013, 08:22:38 pm
So you have CCTV coverage from your point of view and the angle of the camera you may argue that it was dangerous riding/driving. But would you be as fast to to give your services if some one was involved in an accident or drive on by?
 
Use the CCTV for your own safety, security and evidence if you are brought into question but remember its not you or I who are judge and jury. Use it for entertainment by all means but giving someones personal details out in the public forum is not good or wise if you have got it seriously wrong because of your own bias on judgement.
 
It only takes those who hate vehicles/bikers that will report you for doing something totally legal but they thought they were right. I had to explain my actions to my manager as to driving standard as they put it but it was found out that they took offence to the kids in the bus giving the Focc off sign and I as the driver 33 foot away driving who took the bollocking.
 
Go ahead and report them from your point of view but do not tell me that you or anyone hear has not made a mistake through momentarily laps of concentration. For i is guilty
 
Daz
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: smithfz on 12 June 2013, 08:28:43 pm
Dam people with cams can and should get done with breach of privacy.
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: caretaker on 12 June 2013, 10:55:57 pm
especially cyclists! (that should effectively hijack this thread)
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Fuzzy on 12 June 2013, 11:30:35 pm
I have a helmet cam for my commute thru London. Have reported a couple of people when I was involved or when it was seriously dangerous. Mainly for insurance or if there was a hit and run etc. Don't bother otherwise,not worth hassle and it's silly to get hung up on little bits of bad driving. If you witness truly dangerous driving I see no problem at all in reporting. If one drives around actively seeking to film and report that is sad but I don't think it's the case here!
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Grahamm on 13 June 2013, 03:30:03 pm
Zero tolerance is the way to go

"Zero Tolerance" = Zero Common Sense.

I got pulled on the M27 for making a bit too much progress and the copper said "I'm not going to give you a ticket because you weren't riding like an idiot".

That did more good than a simple "£60 fine, three points" zero sense attitude would have done.
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Bazza1366 on 13 June 2013, 10:16:00 pm
hiya mate, on some of your vids, you've got a picture in picture frame, what software are you using for that? 
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Chillum on 13 June 2013, 10:55:46 pm
Zero tolerance is the way to go

"Zero Tolerance" = Zero Common Sense.

I got pulled on the M27 for making a bit too much progress and the copper said "I'm not going to give you a ticket because you weren't riding like an idiot".

That did more good than a simple "£60 fine, three points" zero sense attitude would have done.

But you did get pulled over for a chat, which is fair enough.

I didn't say zero tolerance, assume everyone is guilty then throw the effin key away for FOCS sake.

God knows I've done some twatty things whilst on my bike, and if someone had video'd them and had to take points/ban whatever I would have been pissed off, but at myself, not the coppers and not the video'r.

I don't believe zero tolerance = zero common sense - I believe it makes a level playing field. And by zero tolerance I mean something should be done about *all* cock-headed driving/riding, including my own. The actions taken as a result of the offence shouldn't be zero tolerance, that should be where the common sense crops up.
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: mickdel on 13 June 2013, 11:48:32 pm
If somebody cuts me up, or I see driving like a total disregardful person,  then I'll follow him, and then challenge him.    Not the best idea.  I once sprinted after a @black muslim@ guy driving about 60 in a 30 and leaned in through his window and scared the sweet fuck out of him.  It all depends on how much the idiotic behaviour of other drivers affects you.    One cunt in a new mini cut me up, and gave me the finger.  80 metres later, he was stuck at a red light,  and I had hoofed it up out of my car,   screaming wife inside,  with a mini crowbar, having told my wife I'm going to smash his fucking face to a pulp.     I just reached level with him, when the lights turned and he raced away.    You should have seen the look on his coupon. He was white as a sheet.     I can guarantee the sight of a 6'4 20 stone skinhead running and screaming at you will make even the most ignorant of cunts, think  twice.   I didn't even notice the queue of cars stuck behind mine.   But they were all very quiet.


Some cunts just need a battering.


ps- I mentioned the color, as I'd just watched Chris Brown video the nite before,  and reckoned the black guy must have nicked the car. 


pps - this behaviour was all pre diagnosis.   It's got a label now,  so I can get away with it.     :rollin
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: snapper on 14 June 2013, 12:31:06 am
  I can guarantee the sight of a 6'4 20 stone skinhead running and screaming at you will make even the most ignorant of cunts, think  twice.
 
 well I like your style just, less of the swear words please ! 
see you Next Tuesday I find very offensive !
 
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: mickdel on 14 June 2013, 12:56:44 am
  I can guarantee the sight of a 6'4 20 stone skinhead running and screaming at you will make even the most ignorant of cunts, think  twice.
 
 well I like your style just, less of the swear words please ! 
see you Next Tuesday I find very offensive !


God Damn Motherfuckers.  I typed out a polite apologetic reply, and got a 404.   Where's my shotgun. Oh, just remembered, my family took it away.   The second to last computer is in danger of having it's bolloxed punched out.     I do apologise for all the swearing, but my 28 year  old, stunning brunette,  therapist tells me it dissipates anger much more effectively than whacking things.   In fact, I find myself using the most vulgar, profane,  language imaginable in our sessions.    I dont' know if it's helping me or not,  but it certainly beats jerking off to the recorded messages on the 0900 numbers, or so I've been told. 
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Grahamm on 14 June 2013, 12:33:49 pm
But you did get pulled over for a chat, which is fair enough.


Yes, however under every other Zero Tolerance approach I've ever heard of, that would not have just been a quiet chat, but a fine and points.

You appear to be trying to use a different definition of Zero Tolerance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_tolerance) to everyone else.
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Enceladus on 14 June 2013, 02:14:06 pm
hiya mate, on some of your vids, you've got a picture in picture frame, what software are you using for that?

using power director 11
nice bit of kit with more power than i'll ever need.
this is the vid of the numpty
tell me what you think.
i'm not saying that i'd report everyone i see that breaks the traffic laws as, to be fair, we all do.
but when someone is driving dangerously and causing other traffic to take avoiding action, that deserves reporting in my book.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yezV-aGEJaE (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yezV-aGEJaE)
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Chillum on 14 June 2013, 04:32:20 pm
But you did get pulled over for a chat, which is fair enough.


Yes, however under every other Zero Tolerance approach I've ever heard of, that would not have just been a quiet chat, but a fine and points.

You appear to be trying to use a different definition of Zero Tolerance ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zero_tolerance[/url]) to everyone else.


Fair enough, my bad - didn't realise it meant the punishment as well as the 'capture' so to speak.
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: dBfazer600 on 14 June 2013, 05:33:14 pm
Enceladus
 
This use to happen to me all the time when I was driving PSV and yes it is dangerous and not good for all present. the oncoming car did the correct thing but the thing is can you identify the driver?
 
Total tool behind the wheel there.
 
Daz
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Chillum on 14 June 2013, 11:42:44 pm
I'm not very comfortable with giving people's reg out with a video like this, mainly because the next person to own it could come in for some stick.
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: andybesy on 15 June 2013, 12:27:20 am
It's a good point Chillum.

I never thought to Google my own reg - just done that and I'm clean so far!

Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Punkstig on 15 June 2013, 02:00:18 pm
Changing the point of this topic a bit but the red Tarmac has no relevance, I asked on the last bike safe I did and they said its only put there for psychological reasons, the same as when there's a sizeable stripe lined divide between lanes (normally for traffic turning right to keep traffic flowing) they started using red Tarmac on these too and it means nothing!
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: pitternator on 16 June 2013, 07:30:09 am
well its a S reg corsa...99% chance its a young lad ....pretty standard wank driving of the lot of them tbh. Its all been said b4, but young lads think they are the best drivers out there, while driving like accidents waiting to happen.
Whats the answer...? I dunno.Report it to the police if you like, but tbh its happening all the time all over the country. You are upset and angered, but you have to learn to control it cos every day I see just as bad. And b4 anyone butts in , tbh it is mostly young lads or audi drivers who drive recklessly ...and young ladies who drive everywhere with their eyes in their lap. Either texting or admiring their handiwork with the ladyshave that day ?
 
 :lol
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: steeeve66 on 16 June 2013, 08:11:17 am
well its a S reg corsa...99% chance its a young lad ....pretty standard wank driving of the lot of them tbh. Its all been said b4, but young lads think they are the best drivers out there, while driving like accidents waiting to happen.
Whats the answer...? I dunno.Report it to the police if you like, but tbh its happening all the time all over the country. You are upset and angered, but you have to learn to control it cos every day I see just as bad. And b4 anyone butts in , tbh it is mostly young lads or audi drivers who drive recklessly ...and young ladies who drive everywhere with their eyes in their lap. Either texting or admiring their handiwork with the ladyshave that day ?
 
 :lol

What is it with Audi drivers?? When ever I see the four rings of an Audi logo, or the small side lights inside the main lights of a VW Golf, in my mirrors I know twat driving is in the post...

Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: Tibbs on 16 June 2013, 11:23:13 am

What is it with Audi drivers?? When ever I see the four rings of an Audi logo, or the small side lights inside the main lights of a VW Golf, in my mirrors I know twat driving is in the post...

I think it's mainly because the cars aren't theirs. Most golfs & audis are company vehicles, or bought by people who know nothing or care anything about cars. After all, if it were your own money why buy a vw or an Audi when you can buy the same car as a seat or a skoda for less money?

These two groups make bad drivers as they are either in a hurry or don't care about driving.
Title: Re: Reporting a dangerous driver with video evidence - how ?
Post by: jon on 16 June 2013, 06:37:47 pm
If the standard of driving upsets you then either follow them and have a word or suck it up and get over it. Running to the police, telling tales with video cameras is one step away  from sitting in the window with a notebook curtain twitching.