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Title: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: Kentish on 26 May 2013, 11:51:41 pm
Balanced my carbs today and done my valves. I have 2 Fazers but this was my 56k 2003 Foxeye one. I adjusted a couple of valves. Do you think it sounds ok? I guess every engine sounds different ha?
Engine Noise Fazer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCT7Fttp5B0#ws)
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: stevierst on 27 May 2013, 12:06:02 am
They all sound a bit odd on audio. Does it sound a bit rough in the flesh? If not, then just ride it! :D

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Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: darrsi on 27 May 2013, 12:06:44 am
Cam chain noise!
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: Kentish on 27 May 2013, 08:26:06 am
Cam chain noise!

Yeah it's got a cam chain..
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: darrsi on 27 May 2013, 11:02:48 am
Cam chain noise!

Yeah it's got a cam chain..


That's that problem solved then.....  :rolleyes
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: Kentish on 27 May 2013, 11:10:22 am
sorry darrsi i didn't know if you were being scarcastic. I can't here a cam chain noise?
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: darrsi on 27 May 2013, 11:23:02 am
sorry darrsi i didn't know if you were being scarcastic. I can't here a cam chain noise?


No, i wasn't!
It's not bad at all, but i can hear it a bit.
The tickover seems a little fast to me so it's difficult to distinguish it.
My bike has a rattle on cold start up but does totally disappear after about 5mins of warming up, but my tickover is slower than what your bike sounds like, around 1200rpm, and i have a deep sounding Quill race can on so they almost sound like different bikes!
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: Kentish on 27 May 2013, 11:26:35 am
My Tickover is only at 1200 I have the digital carb gauges that give idle speed aswell. The noise I can hear is quite on cold start and more noisy when engine is hot. But then my other fazer has done only 4500miles and that had more rattle to it... I think every engine is different
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: darrsi on 27 May 2013, 11:33:21 am
My Tickover is only at 1200 I have the digital carb gauges that give idle speed aswell. The noise I can hear is quite on cold start and more noisy when engine is hot. But then my other fazer has done only 4500miles and that had more rattle to it... I think every engine is different


Yeah, i've just listened to a video of mine, not too much in it really i s'pose.
You've certainly not got anything bad sounding going on anyway.







Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: darrsi on 27 May 2013, 11:50:59 am
I just uploaded this to compare  :)


Yamaha FZS600 with Quill race can (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlMgEU3wqxI#)
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: Dead Eye on 27 May 2013, 12:03:39 pm
Sounds like its running well to me - I can hear a very very slight cam chain noise, but that's hardly surprising for a Fazer :P
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: darrsi on 27 May 2013, 12:20:08 pm
If you ever have noises you don't wanna hear, get one of these, the end can i just took off and changed for the Quill.
Rattles and squeaks aren't heard, and everyone seems to make you feel welcome by looking at you when you ride towards them.  :lol 

Yamaha FZS600 with SP Engineering Moto GP exhaust can (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Nny3wQGnJ4#)
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: Kentish on 27 May 2013, 01:11:34 pm
So do fazer all have this slight cam chain noise? I had a drz once brand new and it rattled to fook even the top suzuki mechanic said it was normal. The rattle on gazers don't sound bad
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: gerkin on 27 May 2013, 01:34:04 pm
If you ever have noises you don't wanna hear, get one of these, the end can i just took off and changed for the Quill.
Rattles and squeaks aren't heard, and everyone seems to make you feel welcome by looking at you when you ride towards them.  :lol 

Yamaha FZS600 with SP Engineering Moto GP exhaust can ([url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Nny3wQGnJ4#[/url])

 
blimey that is loud
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: darrsi on 27 May 2013, 01:58:24 pm
So do fazer all have this slight cam chain noise? I had a drz once brand new and it rattled to fook even the top suzuki mechanic said it was normal. The rattle on gazers don't sound bad

It does appear to be characteristic with Fazers, as i said i still get a rattle when the oil is cold but it soon goes away, but i had the chain replaced 8000 miles ago so i know it's okay.
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: Kentish on 27 May 2013, 02:01:30 pm
I guess anything mechanical is going to make a noise
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: darrsi on 27 May 2013, 02:09:24 pm
I guess anything mechanical is going to make a noise

Basically yeah, it's also how much you personally read into things as well.
Before i had the cam chain changed the noise would drive me mad, whereas it simply wouldn't bother other people!
Plus you can hear by the 3 videos how exhaust tones can dampen noises as well.
I was never a fan of the whining gearbox which is primarily why i changed exhausts in the first place.
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: Kentish on 27 May 2013, 02:21:53 pm
But when u had it changed did it still make a noise? My other other one has 4500miles that's got a slight noise.
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Post by: darrsi on 27 May 2013, 02:27:44 pm
@gerkin it is loud and sounds wicked when you're just pottering around streets on short journeys or giving it a blast, BUT, once you get onto a motorway i found it to be like having a thousand angry bee's in your crash helmet.
It sounded even nicer when i removed the baffle when i first fitted it, but that would make it louder still and also illegal.
The above video is with the baffle in!!
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: darrsi on 27 May 2013, 02:30:56 pm
But when u had it changed did it still make a noise? My other other one has 4500miles that's got a slight noise.

Only when cold for around 5mins, then the noise totally goes away.
There's a poll on the forum about what mileage people changed the cam chain and the results are very varied.
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: Kentish on 27 May 2013, 02:41:02 pm
Can u remove those tensioners without taking the carbs out?
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: darrsi on 27 May 2013, 03:14:42 pm
Can u remove those tensioners without taking the carbs out?


I've not tried it personally so not entirely sure about that, i know it's a very tight space to get to.
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: Kentish on 27 May 2013, 07:41:39 pm
Also I have heard that the noise can be because the CCT is stuck and waiting to move to the next notch?
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: darrsi on 27 May 2013, 08:26:01 pm
Also I have heard that the noise can be because the CCT is stuck and waiting to move to the next notch?


You might get a rattle for a while in between clicks, i think they have about 12 notches on them before the chain is totally shot.
Some people just take it out for a blast and try and encourage the next click, but it will do it on it's own when the time is right.
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: Kentish on 27 May 2013, 08:27:33 pm
I had a look at it today and fook me tight aint the word!! I can't be asked to force it to the next notch...seems hassle carbs off etc..
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: darrsi on 27 May 2013, 08:41:04 pm
When i said take it out for a blast, i meant scream up the road at high speed! (70mph of course)
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: Kentish on 28 May 2013, 11:47:58 am
Went down to my local yamaha dealer today. The head technician was there from yamaha uk diagnosing a fault on a new machine. This man has 40years expertise's! I let him have a listen to my engine and the noise etc. he said if that was cam chain noise it would be a hell of a lot louder than that mate. That sounds normal to me.. He did also say if you hone in on a noise then it will send you totally mental..this from a top yamaha bod..
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: Dead Eye on 28 May 2013, 12:46:00 pm
Pretty much sums up what most people have said; videos seem to really highlight some specific noises of the Fazers engine. It's very hard to hear your cam chain noise and its probably impossible when stood next to the bike - if it needed adjusting / changing you would hear it immediately and it would be clear as day :)

So, time to get out and enjoy it! :D
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: Kentish on 30 May 2013, 12:04:16 am
also he did say to me a lot of noises people hear in engines is just metal expanding
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: darrsi on 30 May 2013, 12:59:37 am
also he did say to me a lot of noises people hear in engines is just metal expanding


Okay  :lol
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: Kentish on 30 May 2013, 01:02:47 am
But then I guess he is right metal expands when it's hot
Title: Re: Engine Sound - Video
Post by: darrsi on 30 May 2013, 01:05:04 am
Dead Eye is right about video noise though, and i found that mobile phones highlight noises even more, which can be a good or a bad thing depending on whether you want to hear things or not?