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General => General => Topic started by: Davebo on 24 May 2013, 10:45:16 am
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I noticed in a recent pic (and elsewhere) people put their prized crash helmets on seats, mirrors, etc.
Having lost a custom painted (motor racing) helmet to the tarmac after it blew off the boot of the car I have always tried to stick to - "If it's not on my head it's on the floor" - on the basis that it is difficult for it to fall off the floor.
Any views ?
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Yer not wrong.
See also pillion footpegs.
Less distance to fall if it does go.
Bar ends. Although they fall off very easy from there.
Mirrors are fine, as long as the gloves aren't in the hat, then it takes a mighty wind to knock it off. Floor is fine. Prolly best kept on the head tho. I find this especially helpful whilst in areas of financial transactioneering
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I noticed in a recent pic (and elsewhere) people put their prized crash helmets on seats, mirrors, etc.
Having lost a custom painted (motor racing) helmet to the tarmac after it blew off the boot of the car I have always tried to stick to - "If it's not on my head it's on the floor" - on the basis that it is difficult for it to fall off the floor.
Any views ?
Yip, panoramic, but only when not wearing it.
Floor most of the time but sometimes on mirrors
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Seen my prize helmet bounce across the floor once, it goes on the mirror now, it takes some effort to knock ot off there. Either on there, or on my head. If in doubt, carry it. :))
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Always always on the floor after listening to others & before i learnt any bad habits,
At the petrol station i put it on top of the pump casing, not the cleanest place but then the padding is washable & a bit o dirts still better than a ruined helmet.
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usually on the floor (on top of the palms of the gloves)
occasionally on the wing mirror when me backs playing up and cant reach the ground.
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At the petrol station i put it on top of the pump casing, not the cleanest place but then the padding is washable & a bit o dirts still better than a ruined helmet.
That works, till it's windy - I've seen helmets (fortunately not mine!) blown off the top of pumps, and they roll a hell of a long way!
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Always on the floor for me, usually on top of my gloves.
I always fill up straddling the bike with helmet on, then dismount, helmet off and go into pay, never had a problem. You wait thats put the curse on it. :lol
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On my head or on the floor.
At petrol stations it's on my head, if they don't like it I shop elsewhere.
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When im riding its on me head when parked for a short time like at a petrol station then on me right hand mirror, if parked up for awhile like a bike meet then its locked to my left hand pillion footpeg.
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On the rare occasion it isn't on my head or in the cupboard at home, it will be hooked over the mirror (mirror through where the visor goes) or wedged between the bars and the clocks on the tank. The latter only happens when I am with the bike though.
I would never put my helmet on top of a petrol pump or on the floor in a petrol station as the petrol that does accumulate there would do it some damage. with family that run garages I know these pumps are not as clean as they look!
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In the hard Givi Top-box - no chance of damage in there!
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:agree I forgot about the times I put it in there.
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At petrol stations it's on my head, if they don't like it I shop elsewhere.
They've started to refuse service at petrol stations around the Preston area now if you wear a helmet, apparently they've been getting a few ride off bilkings, but Its utter bullshit!
They've also said its for health and safety reasons, yet again, utter bullshit! I refuse to take my helmet off at fuel stations because there's nowhere to put it, and apparently any fuel that touches your lid degrade the helmet materials.
I've asked the cashier to come and hold my helmet before now, but she wasn't impressed!
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Mirrors are fine, as long as the gloves aren't in the hat,
Please don't do this. I sent one of my Arai Astros to Arai for inspection after I accidently biffed it into a revolving door and the helmet came back with a letter telling me not to use the helmet ever again as it had 'sustained lining damage presumed to be from hanging on a m/c mirror' I rang them up at Phoenix to find out more and they said that this was a very common way of damaging a lid, it doesn't take much force for the side of the mirror to slice into the polystyrene liner. £450 of helmet written off.
I always put mine on the ground if possible or if it's raining I lock it into the helmet holder on the seat catch.
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On the floor, on top of my gloves, or if I'm parked up and it's a nice day I hang it on the hook under the seat. In the garage it sits on its own little shelf, with carpet stuck to the brick work so it doesn't scratch.
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Is it really that much hassle to take off your helmet to go and pay for some fuel?
I always take it off and carry it with me when going into pay - just ask the cashier next time how many times they have been robbed at knife point by someone wearing a motorbike helmet and see their response.
I'd hate to be in that position where you are scared shitless every person walking in with a lid on might pull something on you.
And for that reason...
(http://cdn.memegenerator.net/instances/400x/35415658.jpg)
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Yeah, round here it doesn't happen bud, hence why its bullshit. I take my gloves off, and walk in to pay for my fuel with my wallet in my hand, and quite often my chip-n-pin card in my other hand, its obvious I'm no threat. Body language is about 70% of communication.
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I never take my helmet off when filling up for fuel but that's because its a pain in the ass to deal with getting my glasses off and back on again with a full face helmet. When I'm wearing my contacts, its soooo much easier that its no hassle at all - I just rarely wear my contacts :(
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Don't want to hijack this thread off the original topic but IMO yes, it's too much hassle to take it off when filling up.
I don't make any fuss any more, I just get back on and go elsewhere, but most of the time I use Tesco as they have 'pay at pump' facilities and everyone's happy.
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Don't want to hijack this thread off the original topic but IMO yes, it's too much hassle to take it off when filling up.
I don't make any fuss any more, I just get back on and go elsewhere, but most of the time I use Tesco as they have 'pay at pump' facilities and everyone's happy.
one great advantage of a flip front lid.
don't need to take it off :)
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I usually put mine on the mirrors or on the ground at the rear wheel if dry. After reading Simon.p's post I will be looking carefully at where my helmet is put. Food for thought.
Daz
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one great advantage of a flip front lid.
don't need to take it off :)
My son kept getting asked to take his off, even with the front flipped open. He used to ask them why, and they just told him "no helmets" but didn't explain why.
And they wonder why bikers boycott petrol stations!
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It's a security thing. A helmet is similar to wearing a balaclava (in so far as it covers most of your face) so you can't be identified by cctv.
They're not saying every biker is a criminal out to rob the place but it limits risk to put that rule in place.
It takes 30 seconds to take your lid off, you would spend more than that arguing it with the staff if you really wanted to keep it on.
I don't see the hate for it to be honest.
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mine sits on the pillion seat. its happy there.
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99% of the time I always fill up at the same petrol station so I think they've gotten used to seeing me and aren't too worried :)
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I always put mine on my head as it may get scratched if i drop it on the motorway at 75mph :\
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Theres no way Im going to put my expensive helmet on the ground or on top of pump @ petrol station. Sometimes you even have to watch for spilled diesel on your boots/tyres-makes for very interesting gear/rear brake control!
Pull up by pump,Flip up helmet, Remove gloves, Get off bike, Fill up, Walk into shop with wallet/money visible Queue, Pay.
Never had a problem...........YET! :lol
Only time I put helmet on seat it rolled off & fell visor first onto tarmac-result new visor as chip/scratches in centre of line of sight-expensive lesson! :eek
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Is it really that much hassle to take off your helmet to go and pay for some fuel?
Yes, it is! If I take my lid off then I need to re-do my balaclava, which means taking both gloves off (instead of just one) and undoing my jacket.
Fortunately the petrol station I try to fill up at (it's 3-4p/litre cheaper than the others on the way home!) don't care if I keep it on.
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Is it really that much hassle to take off your helmet to go and pay for some fuel?
Yes, it is! If I take my lid off then I need to re-do my balaclava, which means taking both gloves off (instead of just one) and undoing my jacket.
Fortunately the petrol station I try to fill up at (it's 3-4p/litre cheaper than the others on the way home!) don't care if I keep it on.
And ear plugs!! :lol if you wear them.
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I've only ever been asked to remove my helmet once, the first time I fuelled up after passing my test. In 1994.
Have fuelled up a few times since then :)
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Sometimes I tie my helmet to the cargo net that is always on the pillion seat. Once another biker was waiting after me for fuel. He thought the helmet was just unsafely on the seat and warned me. Then I said "it is safe" and started to bounce the bike. But he :eek did not listen and still caught my helmet like a goalkeeper. I did thank him for his efforts, but he looked a bit ashamed though :)
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I must be really lucky, I never take my helmet off to get petrol, and in 32 years of riding bikes Ive NEVER been asked to remove it. Had one knocked off my mirror once so I always place it on the floor now. When at home they have their own place up out of harms way.
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I was at Squires a few years ago when Harry landed in his helicopter, blew a couple of helmets (stop it) down the bank at the top of the parking area,
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I used to put mine on the right hand mirror. Until, that is, I left it there when I was in John O Groats and it started pissing down when I was in having a coffee. The helmet had a puddle in it when I got to it. The 400+ mile journey ahead was not looking great, and I was on a 125 at the time! Now I carry it with me.
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I've never needed to take my lid off for fuel but if I remove my lid and will be nearby, like a bike meet, I'll put my gloves on the ground slightly apart and then my lid on the gloves.
I once bought some fuel for the bike and then went to pay and the child serving got in a paddy about the lid. I told him he shouldn't of served me then. He would not take my money or card till I removed the helmet. I nearly buggered off without paying. Was sorely tempted to wear a Burqa and then do a runner.
Mickey
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I once bought some fuel for the bike and then went to pay and the child serving got in a paddy about the lid. I told him he shouldn't of served me then. He would not take my money or card till I removed the helmet. I nearly buggered off without paying.
You would have been bang to rights if you left without paying. You've attempted to pay, and they've refused your payment. Simples!
I just plain refuse to be dictated to because its a big company and they think they can get away with it. Its like being at school!
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I once bought some fuel for the bike and then went to pay and the child serving got in a paddy about the lid. I told him he shouldn't of served me then. He would not take my money or card till I removed the helmet. I nearly buggered off without paying.
You would have been bang to rights if you left without paying. You've attempted to pay, and they've refused your payment. Simples!
I just plain refuse to be dictated to because its a big company and they think they can get away with it. Its like being at school!
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This, although I'd also record a video on my phone for when the police came knocking ;)
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I once bought some fuel for the bike and then went to pay and the child serving got in a paddy about the lid. I told him he shouldn't of served me then. He would not take my money or card till I removed the helmet. I nearly buggered off without paying.
You would have been bang to rights if you left without paying. You've attempted to pay, and they've refused your payment. Simples!
I just plain refuse to be dictated to because its a big company and they think they can get away with it. Its like being at school!
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This, although I'd also record a video on my phone for when the police came knocking ;)
All you have to do is offer to leave your name, address and a contact number there for them, and if they don't accept that, then you can just walk out! My dad did the exact same thing, the police came round, he told them what had happened and they basically went to the petrol station concerned and told them to stop wasting the fuzz's time.
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+1 for the pillion foot peg
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I take mine off when filling up - mostly because I listen to my ipod when riding and need to take out the ear phones.
I'd never leave my lid unattended though, can't trust the Irish not to rob it unfortunately, at least in Dublin anyway.
I find it can rest nicely at the front of the tank though leaning back towards the handle bars. The bars form a nice bend to stop it rolling either direction. Only leave it there when locking up and unlocking the bike though.