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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner => Topic started by: alonsho on 20 May 2013, 11:12:37 am

Title: little help please
Post by: alonsho on 20 May 2013, 11:12:37 am
so i have a fazer 1000 2002 and the motor is probably dead.
so i dont find a motor to replace it....
can i use a lets say R1 motor????
does someone have sogestions???
Title: Re: little help please
Post by: Camshaft on 20 May 2013, 11:55:19 am
I don't know for sure, but as far as I know your Fazer has an R1 engine with smaller carbs, different clutch and head. I would expect it would bolt in place. Ignition system I'm not sure but likely to be the same.


Sorry to hear about your "dead" motor  :'(




Title: Re: little help please
Post by: chitsu on 20 May 2013, 01:32:40 pm
R1 motor is different, mainly due to the R1 using downdraft carbs as opposed to side drafts like the FZS1000 does.
If you are in the U.K and want a 2nd hand FZS1000 engine drop me a P.M.

Chitsu
Title: Re: little help please
Post by: AyJay on 20 May 2013, 08:49:27 pm
Yup. It may use the same architecture as the R1 (bore, stroke, dimensions) but it's a different engine if truth be told.
Title: Re: little help please
Post by: Falcon 269 on 20 May 2013, 11:07:03 pm
To the best of my knowledge, no-one has ever fitted an R1 motor to a Fazer 1000.  Too many differences in frame and engine mounts, not to mention the airbox etc etc.
Title: Re: little help please
Post by: AdieR on 21 May 2013, 02:53:08 am
"Motor is probably dead" - some more info would help here (mileage, problems, service history etc), to determine if it's worth repairing.

Should be enough Fazer 1000's in breakers yards etc that might be salvagable, without going to a different motor altogether
Title: Re: little help please
Post by: alonsho on 22 May 2013, 10:06:55 am
well i live in israel and there are no fzr1000 motors to find here...
ill probebly try to fix it
because i dont have a choise ....

Title: Re: little help please
Post by: PaulSmith on 22 May 2013, 02:51:49 pm
You still haven't said what you think is wrong with it.
Title: Re: little help please
Post by: alonsho on 22 May 2013, 06:25:58 pm
cause i dont know...

Title: Re: little help please
Post by: snapper on 22 May 2013, 07:46:21 pm
OK Im going to ask !
 
If you dont know whats wrong with the motor why are you looking to replace it ?
it might be a nothing job might be motor out job 
 but untill you know whats wrong its all speculation !
surley you'd be better off finding out first ?
 
Title: Re: little help please
Post by: noggythenog on 22 May 2013, 07:50:58 pm
OK Im going to ask !
 
If you dont know whats wrong with the motor why are you looking to replace it ?
it might be a nothing job might be motor out job 
 but untill you know whats wrong its all speculation !
surley you'd be better off finding out first ?


Agreed


If you go to the doctor and say theres something wrong with you, he will say what is wrong,what are the symptoms?, if you say i dont know then he isnt gonna be able to help you, well unless your leg is hanging off with blood pouring out :lol


So does your engine have a massive hole in it or has it melted or has it just stopped working.


Provide some symptoms & the guys here will no doubt provide some assistance.


Could be a happy ending :thumbup
Title: Re: little help please
Post by: Dave48 on 22 May 2013, 08:36:08 pm
Good one,Noggy!  Communication is what its all about-I am sure we would all like to help if we can but give us a clue please, alonsho! :lol
Title: Re: little help please
Post by: PaulSmith on 23 May 2013, 04:18:20 pm
I don't want to sound cruel, but if you are having problems diagnosing what is wrong with your current bike, what possible chance do you think you have sticking in the engine from a different bike. If it is beyond your personal skills, bring it to a shop. If they cant fix it, or want to charge too much, then dump it for what you can and get something you can afford.
Title: Re: little help please
Post by: alonsho on 25 May 2013, 10:11:43 am
guys before i talked to you i was in a shop...
and the guy said it would be better to find a motor
cause just to open and find whats wrong is expensive enough....
so i looked for a motor but ther is non at my country
so i looked at ebay and it wouldent be cheep at all....
so i thought maybe to find a nother competible motor....
still dont know what to do...
 
Title: Re: little help please
Post by: kebab19 on 25 May 2013, 05:09:10 pm
Ask the guy in the shop to give you a list or summary of what is wrong with the engine, then post details up here.
It might be a new top-end as opposed to a whole engine (tho still expensive). It might be my old friend, the waterpump dying.
But it sounds like its going to be expensive no matter what option you go for, and no other Yamaha engine bolts in.
Surely Fex Ex or some other service could ship an engine on a pallette for a reasonable price?
Title: Re: little help please
Post by: bludclot on 25 May 2013, 07:13:04 pm
alonsho


mash lom ka?


you are lucky indeed to have a thousand bike in israel, all i saw there was gs500 motors!


tell us what's wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: little help please
Post by: b1k3rdude on 26 May 2013, 10:19:42 am
  • Ask the guy in the shop to give you a list or summary of what is wrong with the engine, then post details up here.
  • no other Yamaha engine bolts in.
  • Fex Ex or some other service can ship an engine on a palette for a reasonable price

1. As kebab and other have been asking through out this thread - we need to know what the "motorcycle mechanic" assuming thats what he is, has said exactly what is wrong with the engine then we can help.

2/3. This isn't really an option because a good engine from the UK is gonna cost £500-700 and the shipping from the UK to Isreal via a pallet will be at least £400+
Title: Re: little help please
Post by: PaulSmith on 28 May 2013, 01:54:19 pm
guys before i talked to you i was in a shop...
and the guy said it would be better to find a motor
cause just to open and find whats wrong is expensive enough....
...
Find another shop.

Either the guy doesn't know what he is talking about, he just doesn't want the work, or he wants you to scrap it and he will offer you a few bucks to take it off your hands. To drop the engine and open it to the point of knowing what needs doing should take 4 hours labour or less. So for €200 you either sell it for parts or know what exactly what is wrong and what is needed to fix it.