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Title: Front end whirring
Post by: ChristoT on 16 May 2013, 08:25:32 pm
Evening all!

For a pleasent change, this isn't a problem but a solution!!

As some may know (and Dead_Eye has heard first hand), there has been a weird whirring / rubbing sound coming from the front end of my bike at speeds above 40mph, but not below. And no one knew where it was coming from. Brakes, bearings, even fairing were considered and ruled out. I was in the biek shop earlier, turning to a pro for advice and the solution appeared: the speedo cable was bone dry. The chap greased it for me, and narry a squeak from it now!

So there you have it. If you get a weird, rubbing noise above 40mph, which dies out as you decelerate, try greasing the cable!  :)
Title: Re: Front end whirring
Post by: red98 on 16 May 2013, 08:36:10 pm
a speedo cable on a fazer !!!!!!
Title: Re: Front end whirring
Post by: Andy FZS on 16 May 2013, 08:44:17 pm
I got a noise from mine when the speedo "stator" or whatever it is called was broken, I glued it temporarily a year ago then forgot about it. But only electrical strings that go from there to the speedo no cable.
Andy

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Title: Re: Front end whirring
Post by: ChristoT on 16 May 2013, 08:49:57 pm
All I know is that the mechanic said he greased the cable, that it was bone dry, and now there's no whirring. I have no idea precisely WHAT he did, but it worked!!  :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Front end whirring
Post by: red98 on 16 May 2013, 09:07:11 pm
All I know is that the mechanic said he greased the cable, that it was bone dry, and now there's no whirring. I have no idea precisely WHAT he did, but it worked!!  :lol :lol :lol






christo`s,  top tip of the month....... :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: Front end whirring
Post by: simonm on 16 May 2013, 09:29:50 pm
I'm confused.  The speedo on a Fazer is electronic isn't it ?  Otherwise what's the point of the magnets and electric cable coming up from the front wheel ?  Maybe I'm wrong, wouldn't be the first time.
Title: Re: Front end whirring
Post by: darrsi on 16 May 2013, 09:37:04 pm
Yeah, i'm a bit lost too?  :look
The only thing to grease is the in the wheel hub around where the lugs slot in place.
Title: Re: Front end whirring
Post by: ChristoT on 16 May 2013, 09:48:12 pm
No idea exactly. I have to go round tomorrow to pay him (he shut the shop by the time I came back from the test ride), so I'll pick his brains then and report back.
Title: Re: Front end whirring
Post by: Dead Eye on 16 May 2013, 10:13:49 pm
Looking forward to hearing back on this mystery fix :P
Title: Re: Front end whirring
Post by: darrsi on 16 May 2013, 10:35:29 pm
No idea exactly. I have to go round tomorrow to pay him (he shut the shop by the time I came back from the test ride), so I'll pick his brains then and report back.


I reckon when you go back you'll find it all boarded up and that it never was a bike shop, it was all just a dream  :lol
Title: Re: Front end whirring
Post by: Punkstig on 16 May 2013, 10:42:57 pm
More than likely greased the gears in the speedo pick up, it's a worm gear, there's two different ones - metal on metal gears and metal on plastic, don't know which year they changed it but yeah, you can take it apart yourself with the wheel off, clean it all out and regrease, I went through 3 of the bloody things on the 120,000 mile-er!
Title: Re: Front end whirring
Post by: ChristoT on 16 May 2013, 10:59:27 pm
No idea exactly. I have to go round tomorrow to pay him (he shut the shop by the time I came back from the test ride), so I'll pick his brains then and report back.


I reckon when you go back you'll find it all boarded up and that it never was a bike shop, it was all just a dream  :lol

I hope not! That's my social hub!
Title: Re: Front end whirring
Post by: Dead Eye on 16 May 2013, 11:52:02 pm
I sooo hope that is the case, would be a fantastic story ending :P
Title: Re: Front end whirring
Post by: ChristoT on 17 May 2013, 12:06:45 am
I sooo hope that is the case, would be a fantastic story ending :P

If that is the case, the story ending will be me coming to Chelmsford to pester you whenever something is wrong with the bike, or I want to socialise with bikers! Which is several times a week, be warned...  :lol :b
Title: Re: Front end whirring
Post by: ChristoT on 17 May 2013, 12:12:08 am
I sooo hope that is the case, would be a fantastic story ending :P

If that is the case, the story ending will be me coming to Chelmsford to pester you whenever something is wrong with the bike, or I want to socialise with bikers! Which is several times a week, be warned...  :lol :b
Title: Re: Front end whirring
Post by: simonm on 17 May 2013, 12:21:36 am
I sooo hope that is the case, would be a fantastic story ending :P

If that is the case, the story ending will be me coming to Chelmsford to pester you whenever something is wrong with the bike, or I want to socialise with bikers! Which is several times a week, be warned...  :lol :b
I do recall the birm meet being a ChristoT q&a session.  Deadeye was in his element.
Title: Re: Front end whirring
Post by: ChristoT on 17 May 2013, 12:27:36 am
If Rossi is The Doctor, then surely Dead_Eye is The Surgeon.  :)

How good is Rossi at rebuilding engines anyway?  :lol
Title: Re: Front end whirring
Post by: limax2 on 17 May 2013, 08:36:33 am
More than likely greased the gears in the speedo pick up, it's a worm gear, there's two different ones - metal on metal gears and metal on plastic, don't know which year they changed it but yeah, you can take it apart yourself with the wheel off, clean it all out and regrease, I went through 3 of the bloody things on the 120,000 mile-er!
Are you thinking of a different model ? Never seen any gears on a FZS600 speedo pick-up  :\ .
Title: Re: Front end whirring
Post by: red98 on 17 May 2013, 08:41:10 am
More than likely greased the gears in the speedo pick up, it's a worm gear, there's two different ones - metal on metal gears and metal on plastic, don't know which year they changed it but yeah, you can take it apart yourself with the wheel off, clean it all out and regrease, I went through 3 of the bloody things on the 120,000 mile-er!
Are you thinking of a different model ? Never seen any gears on a FZS600 speedo pick-up  :\ .

 
 :agree ....yeh me too.....never seen a worm drive on a  600 fazer  :)
Title: Re: Front end whirring
Post by: simonm on 17 May 2013, 08:58:44 am
More than likely greased the gears in the speedo pick up, it's a worm gear, there's two different ones - metal on metal gears and metal on plastic, don't know which year they changed it but yeah, you can take it apart yourself with the wheel off, clean it all out and regrease, I went through 3 of the bloody things on the 120,000 mile-er!
Are you thinking of a different model ? Never seen any gears on a FZS600 speedo pick-up  :\ .

 
 :agree ....yeh me too.....never seen a worm drive on a  600 fazer  :)
:agree

I don't recall Mr Hayne's mentioning it either.
Title: Re: Front end whirring
Post by: Dead Eye on 17 May 2013, 10:24:40 am
The worm drive is on the later FZ6 isn't it?
Title: Re: Front end whirring
Post by: ChristoT on 17 May 2013, 10:41:34 am
Turns out it was the seal between the wheel and the speedo unit. It was turning with the unit, rather than the wheel. That was the part that was greased, that was the wozzit that cured the squeak.

Dead_Eye, you're spared my presence! For a little while...  :rollin :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: Front end whirring
Post by: Dead Eye on 17 May 2013, 10:45:24 am
I'm pretty damn sure one of the first things I said was to check the speedo (after I said bearings) - you will listen to me one day :P
Title: Re: Front end whirring
Post by: ChristoT on 17 May 2013, 10:47:59 am
I'm pretty damn sure one of the first things I said was to check the speedo (after I said bearings) - you will listen to me one day :P

I did check it! The seating was fine, the bugger was bone dry! A completely different issue!  :lol
Title: Re: Front end whirring
Post by: Dead Eye on 17 May 2013, 10:53:47 am
"I did check it" and "the bugger was bone dry" are contradictory statements :P If it was bone dry you should have lubed it you nut :P