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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: hightower on 13 May 2013, 01:33:06 pm
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I have a 2000 plate Fazer, just got last week. Not sure when it was last serviced, so what do people recommend I should carry out as part of its first service with me?
Oil change, filters, much else?
Also, where do people buy their consumables for this?
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Oil and filters. Then ride it A LOT. :)
Coolant in the autumn, before it gets cold.
If the bike runs and sounds OK, that's it. The rest you will see as it wears out (pads, discs, chain, tyres, shock absorbers....).
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Check out the downloads section. Get a copy of Haynes manual-think the service interval is 4000miles, later extended to 6000 m for the 02-03 Foxeye.
Do I what I did start from scratch as you don't know what if anything was done & when. Good start oil & filter,coolant,brake fluid. ebay good for some items, I am lucky to have a Yamaha dealer 6 miles away -for ordering makers parts. I use Yamaha brake seals as they always fit no probs, any reputable make of filter. 10W-40 smi-synthetic bike oil. Any good brand. :lol
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I'm pretty pally with the shop that sold it, and he told me the chain/sprockets and pads were in good nick. It was a part-ex job though, so not 100% on it's service history.
I got the Haynes manual from here before I even bought the bike, so was planning ahead! I like ordering on-line, but not keen with eBay.
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Although, that said I've just scanned eBay and they seem to offer service kits, with the oil and filters all in one package...
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What i would seriously suggest is that ANYTHING you do to the bike should be written down, with a date, what work you carried out, and at what mileage.
It makes life so much easier later on. :)
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Yeah, deffo.
What about spark plugs? Change them or leave them if the bike seems to be running well?
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You should really have a good flick through this forum before you do anything, there are loads of hints, tips and tricks up our sleeves on here that can be of great help.
I'd say most topics have more or less been covered extensively, just do a search on whatever you're gonna do first to save yourself time and possible avoidable errors.
Other than that, just ask away.
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Yeah, I will do - just a very big forum too, that can sometimes make it harder to find relevant info.
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Yeah, deffo.
What about spark plugs? Change them or leave them if the bike seems to be running well?
It's up to you, but personally i wouldn't bother if it feels like it's running sweet, plugs last ages. Maaybe a brush up and check of the gaps certainly wouldn't hurt.
I couldn't find my feeler guages at home so spent ages at work with a vernier tool until i found a washer that was exactly 0.75mm thick, and it's kept in my wallet for future use :D
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Yeah, I will do - just a very big forum too, that can sometimes make it harder to find relevant info.
Just put key words in the search box above and a world of info will appear!
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Like Darrsi I have a word.doc on the PC where I record everything I do/spend on bikes/car. Makes for some interesting reading at end of year-but I am lucky not to have a SWMBO to accouint for my actions to :lol Also impresses potential purchasers if/when you decide to change/sell.
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Like Darrsi I have a word.doc on the PC where I record everything I do/spend on bikes/car. Makes for some interesting reading at end of year-but I am lucky not to have a SWMBO to accouint for my actions to :lol Also impresses potential purchasers if/when you decide to change/sell.
Mine's more advanced than that, it's 2 bits of paper i carry about in my wallet :lol
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Yeah, deffo.
What about spark plugs? Change them or leave them if the bike seems to be running well?
Engine oil and filters (oil and air). OK, brake oil as well. Then just ride. See if the bike grows on you, see how it behaves. The rest can be changed at the end of the season, if you decide to keep the bike. Unless you're planning a long trip, just ride it.
Things that you don't know when were changed/checked, assume it's about time to change/check. Valve clearance, cam chain condition, shocks (oil and seals for front and whether the rear needs a change / rebuild), battery, electrical contacts, coolant. Check wheel and steerer bearings for play.
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Difficulty I have is this is my first bike, so not sure what shocks should feel like when they are in condition. I know to check for grease/oil etc but to ride I mean, I don't know what feels good and what feels bad.
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Have you got a Haynes manual? If not buy one, even a 2nd hand one off Ebay will do.
The online manuals are okay to check stuff in your own time but you really need a book when you're working on the bike.
I would say definitely start by changing the oil(10/40 semi synthetic), oil filter(a K&N one with the nut on the end, on Ebay) and i would change the coolant too.
Make sure your pads have a bit of life in them too, if you can't stop the bike properly then you're on a loser straight away.
After that just concentrate on one thing at a time, making a note of everything, and take things slowly.
If you try and do everything at once it'll just do your head in.
(just noticed you already said you had the book, oops :rolleyes )
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Thanks, that sounds like really sensible advice
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You might want to take your front sprocket cover off and see if the nut is original.
The original nut has a habit of coming off and should be replaced with an upgraded one.
It's not urgent. I'm still on the original nut but will replace it when I replace the front sprocket.
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What about suspension then? Should I make any adjustments on it, or just run it as is? (I don't mean rebuild it hehe, I mean should I adjust preload etc)
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What about suspension then? Should I make any adjustments on it, or just run it as is? (I don't mean rebuild it hehe, I mean should I adjust preload etc)
Depends how you ride it really and what suits you, and also body weight as well?
If you find it all a bit bouncy up front, screw your fork adjusters in, making sure they're both level.
Everyone is different, i personally prefer hard suspension, but others don't, so just ride it first for a while and eventually you'll either like how it already is or you may want to change something?
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Ok, cool. I'm 16 stone and 6'5" so a little bigger than the average rider I would suspect. Like you say though, I'll ride it as is and see if I can work out if I need it adjusting over time.
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Judging from the picture on the other thread, his bike won't have adjustable front forks?
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If its an 00-01, as it says on his profile, then it should have the adjusters, if it doesn't then that's an indication that someone has replaced them.
For 16 stone I'd probably suggest increasing the pre-load on the rear to between 2-4 clicks from the stiffest setting depending on your preference. I was knocking on 20 stone at one point so had it at 1 down from the stiffest. Since then, I've dropped to about 14.5 stone and it feels as though I should probably change it down a click or two (its current on 3 down from stiffest I think)
But as darrsi said, this is down to personal preference. Just giving you an idea of what setup I use :)
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Was going off the colour - thought the single colour scheme was stopped for 2000 on, but looking at the differences page, I see that the plain black did continue through. Not surprising really, since it's the fastest colour ;)
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Yeah, 00/01 has adjusters..........apart from my bike, i put 98/99 forks on when i had my braking issues, and tarted up my original one's and stupidly sold them, rather than change them back. :'(
I'm 16 stone too, unfortunately not your height though ( :rolleyes ), and i've changed the fork oil for 15w instead of standard 10w oil.
I get a much better feel out of the front being a bit firmer, so maybe that's something to consider in the future if you find the forks a bit too bouncy.
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I know the 00-01 bikes have adjusters :wall
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I know the 00-01 bikes have adjusters :wall
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What picture, what other thread???
At least give us a hint at what you're talking about?
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hightowers intro thread, http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,7789.0.html (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,7789.0.html) picture of his bike a few posts down.
As I said, I thought the all-black colour scheme vanished in 2000, so that his bike was probably a 1999, albeit possibly registered in 2000. Having checked the differences thread, I realise the all-black did run on after '99.
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Oh i seeeee. :)
You should've asked, mine's a 2000, and totally black :lol
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@hightower, you may wanna invest in one of these if you haven't already, they're a very good piece of kit in the rain.
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,7216.msg68889.html#msg68889 (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,7216.msg68889.html#msg68889)
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is the k & n air filter worth the extra £22 does anyone reckon?
Any better noise from it given ive already a stubby can?
Extra £22 ??
What were you gonna fit, a paper cup?
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It'll give a very slight increase in noise, a much better breathing feel to the bike, no maintenance for an apparent 50,000 miles, and it'll be the last one you ever buy for your bike.
Yeah, it's a good thing........
Stay away from cheap air filters, they are very ill fitting compared to a K&N, and nowhere near as good.
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i would recomend making an excel spreadsheet to record what your doing and when and how much it cost's. Maybe also make one to track your fuel costs and mpg also.
It'll give you a really good idea of how much your spending and what your bike is really costing you.
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i would recomend making an excel spreadsheet to record what your doing and when and how much it cost's. Maybe also make one to track your fuel costs and mpg also.
It'll give you a really good idea of how much your spending and what your bike is really costing you.
Not an accountant perchance are you Rufus? :lol
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Maybe also make one to track your fuel costs and mpg also.
It'll give you a really good idea of how much your spending and what your bike is really costing you.
[url]http://www.fuelly.com/driver/FizzyPies/fzs600[/url] ([url]http://www.fuelly.com/driver/FizzyPies/fzs600[/url])
+1 for Fuelly :)
https://www.fuelly.com/driver/deadeyese/fzs600-1 (https://www.fuelly.com/driver/deadeyese/fzs600-1)
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i would recomend making an excel spreadsheet to record what your doing and when and how much it cost's. Maybe also make one to track your fuel costs and mpg also.
It'll give you a really good idea of how much your spending and what your bike is really costing you.
NO, don't do that! It will make you CRY! :'(
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Sorted, looks like you've hit the jackpot there mate :)
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Looks like its getting quality products there, should be running super smooooth after this :D
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i would recomend making an excel spreadsheet to record what your doing and when and how much it cost's. Maybe also make one to track your fuel costs and mpg also.
It'll give you a really good idea of how much your spending and what your bike is really costing you.
Not an accountant perchance are you Rufus? :lol
just a poorly engineering student.
i would recomend making an excel spreadsheet to record what your doing and when and how much it cost's. Maybe also make one to track your fuel costs and mpg also.
It'll give you a really good idea of how much your spending and what your bike is really costing you.
NO, don't do that! It will make you CRY! :'(
it's not that bad mate. I had to make an engine simulation model and a top speed calculator in excel this year. a 3rd year student has made a full data logging analysis program using excel.
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:rollin :rollin
I rather think Slaninar was referring to the fact it would highlight how much you're spending, not suggesting it was difficult!
Still, you're doing engineering, so you're not expected to be that good at the nuances of the English language and humour :pokefun
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:rollin :rollin
I rather think Slaninar was referring to the fact it would highlight how much you're spending, not suggesting it was difficult!
Still, you're doing engineering, so you're not expected to be that good at the nuances of the English language and humour :pokefun
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:rolleyes