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Title: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: ChristoT on 02 May 2013, 12:19:37 pm
As many know, I have a black box eye, which could do with a respray and some TLC.

I was thinking of maybe spraying the frame red to go with it, so I asked a friend to mock it up in photoshop.

What do you guys think? I'm undecided...


Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: Adrian6171 on 02 May 2013, 12:29:18 pm
Looks a nice match ( just do it ) :)


Ps Send me all the wood in the background,i,ll send you a stamp and envelope. :lol :lol [size=78%] [/size]
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: Exupnut on 02 May 2013, 12:29:54 pm
Looks pretty good..... Kinda like the opposite of a ducati. Of course its gonna be a bit slow mate......
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: Adrian6171 on 02 May 2013, 12:36:20 pm
You paint that frame BLUE and you,ll have one hell of a quick bike ;)
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: ChristoT on 02 May 2013, 12:42:08 pm
You paint that frame BLUE and you,ll have one hell of a quick bike ;)

Exup, why do you have 2 accounts here?  :lol

Blue and black? Not sure how well it would work. I have a blue and black leather jacket, but it's not really striking.
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: stevierst on 02 May 2013, 12:42:51 pm
Its a Yamaha bandit! I'm on the fence with this one for colour scheme though.

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Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: ChristoT on 02 May 2013, 12:53:42 pm
Its a Yamaha bandit! I'm on the fence with this one for colour scheme though.

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Ditto, which is why I thought I'd ask others too.

The bike is definitely getting resprayed, and I'm staying with black. But I'd like to jazz it up a bit too...
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: clayt74 on 02 May 2013, 02:00:49 pm
Try a deep gold on the frame if ya keeping the rest black

Only my opinion tho  :)
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: red98 on 02 May 2013, 02:13:12 pm
how about.........powder coat chrome ........... ;)
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: ChristoT on 02 May 2013, 02:34:17 pm
Powder coat isn't a possibility, as the job will be done by me and a friend in a shed.

Gold.... Hmm, could work!  :)
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: Exupnut on 02 May 2013, 02:36:15 pm
........a bit like u hehe
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: marksfazer on 02 May 2013, 02:45:38 pm
I think it needs something else red on the bike to match the frame. But opinions are personal choice, go with what you think looks best and what is pleasing to your eye!
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: darrsi on 02 May 2013, 02:58:00 pm
 
"I don't like it....."
 
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: red98 on 02 May 2013, 03:13:19 pm
Powder coat isn't a possibility, as the job will be done by me and a friend in a shed.

Gold.... Hmm, could work!  :)

 
 
 
ok,how about silver ?.........be a bit faster  ;)
 
and matched too silver, custom lettering on the tank..... :)
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: stevierst on 02 May 2013, 03:20:02 pm
+1 on gold. [Rose tints on] JPS colours gold and black. :D

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Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: Exupnut on 02 May 2013, 03:21:00 pm
(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/02/venupyju.jpg)

My ass lol
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: Ebme Geek on 02 May 2013, 03:32:58 pm
Gold with yellow hoses ?
 
Personaly I like the idea of purple  :\ , maybe I am thinking of the misses's underware  :b
 
But as has been said, go with what is pleasing to you
 Red frame looks pretty good, to be honest
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: Chris on 02 May 2013, 04:36:55 pm
red looks good, do the wing mirror stalks red too  ;)
 
Gold and black would look really nice. Whatever you do, don't over do it. frame and a few little touches  ;)  Would look good with the lower forks black too. Just done mine and it looks much better than the standard silver.  8)
 
Chris
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: Foxwood on 02 May 2013, 05:09:07 pm
Looks awesome  :thumbup , but I'd experiment with different colors before doing a final decision. Especially since your mate can definitely photoshop well.
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: Chris on 02 May 2013, 05:15:07 pm
+1,
 
Try some mad ideas, you never know what might work!  8)
 
Chris
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: simonm on 02 May 2013, 05:16:28 pm
I think the red and black looks good.  If you could do contrast with a metallic black chromaflair jobbie, that would rule.

My only issue is that black shows up the dirt big style.


You could always go with the carbon wrap  ;)
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: Chris on 02 May 2013, 05:23:38 pm
If you carbon wrap anything be prepared to burn your thumbs!  :lol
 
Damn near lost my thumbs doing my airbox covers!  :lol
 
Chris
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: ChristoT on 02 May 2013, 09:06:05 pm
Well, here are the potential mods:

Repsray black (a certainty)
Frame - diff. colour
Probolt kit for the frame colour
Carbon cover the airboxes (well, vinyl cheaty...  ;) )

That's it so far.
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: Foxwood on 02 May 2013, 09:43:58 pm
I'm gonna steal that carbon idea. Sorry!
Put some vinyl on my mirror backs and those air boxes. Hopefully that'll complement my carbon -look hugger.  :lol




Have you considered matte black? And maybe do the frame red and new white decals?
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: ChristoT on 02 May 2013, 10:03:29 pm
I'm gonna steal that carbon idea. Sorry!
Put some vinyl on my mirror backs and those air boxes. Hopefully that'll complement my carbon -look hugger.  :lol




Have you considered matte black? And maybe do the frame red and new white decals?

I think metallic black (metal flake) would look better, I love the original paint on the tank, and want to replicated that look.

The bike will get a small amount of decals when reprayed. In moderation, of course.  The frame colour is my bugbeart at the moment though...
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: Lawrence on 02 May 2013, 11:20:52 pm
How about a carbon fibre (vinyl) frame? :D
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: sure2ride on 02 May 2013, 11:35:53 pm
Errrr......no thanks  :rolleyes
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: ChristoT on 03 May 2013, 09:26:13 am
How about a carbon fibre (vinyl) frame? :D

I think it was Fazer390 who had a carbon wrapped frame at the Brum meet - but his bike was a) a thou and b) silver. That much carbon on a 600 would daft, and frankly, tacky if the rest of the bike is black. And before Exupnut chips in, that's the colour it's staying. Mainly because I can't be arsed to update the V5!  :lol :lol
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: Revilo18 on 03 May 2013, 02:17:22 pm
+1 on gold also. Sam Sparro - Black and Gold (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHuebHTD-lY#)
Don't think the red quite works. You gonna ahve to take the engine out to get to it all?
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: ChristoT on 03 May 2013, 02:40:18 pm
+1 on gold also.
Don't think the red quite works. You gonna ahve to take the engine out to get to it all?

I'll ask my friend to mock up a few more colours for me.

Yes, the engine will need to come out, and the frame stripped. The 28,000 mile service is coming up though, might be a good opportunity to clean out the engine, and check internal components.
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: Revilo18 on 03 May 2013, 02:52:42 pm
Well good luck with it!  ;)  Take some pics of anything interesting you come across - I'm just about to hit 20,000 miles and would be interesting in things to look out for. Also would be good to see the gold mock up.... thanks
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: Exupnut on 03 May 2013, 10:05:43 pm
SELL IT!!! HAHAHAHA
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: ChristoT on 03 May 2013, 10:06:53 pm
SELL IT!!! HAHAHAHA

Fuck off Pete.  :b
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: simonm on 03 May 2013, 10:25:38 pm
SELL IT!!! HAHAHAHA

Fuck off Pete.  :b


ooh, harsh.  To be fair sometimes it is just cheaper to sell it and buy summat new.  You could keep it how it is, get it derestricted and enjoy it.  Appearances are not everything :-P
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: ChristoT on 03 May 2013, 10:37:40 pm
SELL IT!!! HAHAHAHA

Fuck off Pete.  :b


ooh, harsh.  To be fair sometimes it is just cheaper to sell it and buy summat new.  You could keep it how it is, get it derestricted and enjoy it.  Appearances are not everything :-P

He's just quoting Devilsyam. Anyways, I can barely afford my current machine, let alone a replacement... :(

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Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: simonm on 04 May 2013, 10:39:44 am
Next thing you know it'll look like this  ;)
(http://leggosmashers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Ducati-Diavel-Red-and-Black-HD-Wallpaper-Superbike-1024x682.jpg)
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: ChristoT on 04 May 2013, 10:46:59 am
Don't tempt me.  :lol
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: Dead Eye on 04 May 2013, 11:14:20 am
Now seeing the ducati a dark grey will go better with the red frame than the existing black
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: red98 on 04 May 2013, 11:46:07 am
Now seeing the ducati a dark grey will go better with the red frame than the existing black






yes....agree with you deadeye,red stripe on the tank/tail  is good too.......think the red wants to be brighter like a post office red and parhaps red wheels with polished rims  ;)
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: red98 on 04 May 2013, 11:52:17 am
Now seeing the ducati a dark grey will go better with the red frame than the existing black








yes agree with DEADEYE,think the red wants to be brighter,a post office red,the stripe on the tank/tail looks good too,finished off with red wheels with polished rims  ;)
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: ChristoT on 04 May 2013, 11:58:02 am
Now seeing the ducati a dark grey will go better with the red frame than the existing black

True... But my preference is a black bike, rather than a red frame!
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: Exupnut on 04 May 2013, 12:07:29 pm

SELL IT!!! HAHAHAHA


Fuck off Pete.  :b

SELL IT!!! HAHAHAHA


Fuck off Pete.  :b



ooh, harsh.  To be fair sometimes it is just cheaper to sell it and buy summat new.  You could keep it how it is, get it derestricted and enjoy it.  Appearances are not everything :-P


He's just quoting Devilsyam. Anyways, I can barely afford my current machine, let alone a replacement... :(

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(http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/05/04/3uqeveqe.jpg)
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: ponkster on 04 May 2013, 01:49:05 pm
Black bike with red frame looks good - but what a ball ache to do properly and keep looking good .
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: AdieR on 04 May 2013, 08:08:49 pm
I think the black / red looks OK.

What I would do however (assuming your bike has been treated well) is take pictures BEFORE a re-spray (to highlight its condition) - if you sell in future, a prospective buyer may think (assume) it's been thrown down the road and sprayed to cover up damage.
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: ChristoT on 04 May 2013, 08:24:22 pm
I think the black / red looks OK.

What I would do however (assuming your bike has been treated well) is take pictures BEFORE a re-spray (to highlight its condition) - if you sell in future, a prospective buyer may think (assume) it's been thrown down the road and sprayed to cover up damage.

The problem is the answer to that question is "sort of". Apart from the few times I've managed to drop it, there are aboput 3 kinds of paint on the rear plastics, and the headstock bearing is witness to enthusiastic wheelies from the previous owner.
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: ChristoT on 08 May 2013, 08:38:14 pm
So, as promised, my friend Richard mocced up the other frame colours for me. And after all that palarver - I'm sticking with a black frame.  :rolleyes

See why:

Fazer red frame
Fazer red frame
Fazer blue frame
Fazer blue frame
Fazer gold frame
Fazer gold frame
Fazer silver frame
Fazer silver frame

I know it would look better in real life, but the problem is that all that paint looks a bit over the top, and doesn't go as well witht he shape of the bike. And a half painted frame (just the bit between the engine and the tank, and stretching down to the peg) would just look a bit daft.

Thoughts still welcome though!  :)
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: Dead Eye on 08 May 2013, 08:44:36 pm
The gold looks pretty awesome actually and the silver aint half bad either :)

In fact if I had a black bike I would be pretty tempted to go the gold route
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: bigsteve on 08 May 2013, 08:45:34 pm
I like the black with silver frame myself CristoT  :)
 
   but silver and black always goes well together
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: simonm on 08 May 2013, 09:01:05 pm
I think we need to see the stunning new black finish, wait for him to grab a sarnie and cover the bike frame (edited) in tippex  :b


I considered a respray for the bike but figured I'd wait until I stop falling off the fcuker.
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: ChristoT on 08 May 2013, 09:41:54 pm
I think we need to see the stunning new black finish, wait for him to grab a sarnie and cover it in tippex  :b


I considered a respray for the bike but figured I'd wait until I stop falling off the fcuker.

Why would I cover a sandwich in tippex?!?  :look

As for the prettifying, a) I like having a machine to be really proud of and b) there's a good chance I may have to sell my beloved Fazer in August / Spetember when I go on placement (if it's not in Europe). Just trying to cover all the bases here!

I have a set of Stevie-style indicators on their way for functionality (my panniers squash the stock ones too much for my liking), and I have a headlamp mod in mind too to do.

End of the day, I want a bike that I can be proud of if I keep it, and which will resale for a decent sum too if needs be. Simple as that. 
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: bozboz on 09 May 2013, 12:23:32 am
Dont twat around with it too much tho Christo. The resale value will never over weight the costs if you do.
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: ChristoT on 09 May 2013, 12:28:45 am
Dont twat around with it too much tho Christo. The resale value will never over weight the costs if you do.

The bike can't get worse than it alreadyy is! (OK, it can, but only if I send it through a hedge) Also, I like having a bike built to my spec. If I want small indicators, I shall have small indicators, dammit!  :lol
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: JoeRock on 09 May 2013, 01:00:32 am
Probably worth spending money getting it as close as back to standard new condition as possible then if you want to tidy it up, that's the kind of bike that usually commands the highest price!
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: simonm on 09 May 2013, 02:59:50 am
You should always mod as if you're throwing the money away, you're doing it for you, not to improve resale.  One man's treasure is another man's trash or summat.

Given the age of the bike it'll no doubt be uneconomic to do anything beyond keeping it running.

Mod it, enjoy it, and only spend what you can afford to lose.
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: Revilo18 on 09 May 2013, 07:49:10 am
Gold looks the nuts btw   :b
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: Fuzzy on 09 May 2013, 12:14:20 pm
I'd keep the frame black tbh. It won't be as much of a pain to clean, it retains the original look (might be useful when you sell it) and it'll be far easier to touch up if need be.

If you want something different, do the plastics a different colour or if you want to stay with black, a really nice, deep metallic black or something. At least if you change your mind later all you have to do is take the panels off rather than dismantle the whole bike!

Like others have said though, if you don't plan to keep it long term it might be more economical to keep it as is and save the money to spend on a real tidy bike next time. Wish I'd told myself that before.
Title: Re: Your opinion needed!!
Post by: ChristoT on 09 May 2013, 12:38:52 pm
I'd keep the frame black tbh. It won't be as much of a pain to clean, it retains the original look (might be useful when you sell it) and it'll be far easier to touch up if need be.

If you want something different, do the plastics a different colour or if you want to stay with black, a really nice, deep metallic black or something. At least if you change your mind later all you have to do is take the panels off rather than dismantle the whole bike!

Like others have said though, if you don't plan to keep it long term it might be more economical to keep it as is and save the money to spend on a real tidy bike next time. Wish I'd told myself that before.

Funny that, I'm planning on metal flake metallic black.   :)

As for keeping it, I WANT to keep it, not sure if I'll be able to.