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Title: Horn
Post by: rivett on 01 May 2013, 10:43:59 pm
Hiya Guy's,
Could some one help me out please, I've changed the horn of my 2001 Fzs 600,the one I've put on is off a volksvagon golf, now what's concerning me ,Is that the golf horn might be drawing more power than the wiring harness can manage, I've used the horn with the lights on, with no dimming of the lights or different note from the engine.  Any help would be appreciated.
thanks
Rivett .   :\
Title: Re: Horn
Post by: richfzs on 01 May 2013, 11:55:10 pm
Unlikely to be a problem, unless it's a whacking great airhorn

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Post by: simonm on 02 May 2013, 07:11:44 am
 you use the horn that much and for that long  ?

The power draw for that period of time is a worry only for the fuse rather than the wiring imo

Title: Re: Horn
Post by: rivett on 02 May 2013, 09:14:31 am
 :D  Thanx guys, there's a lot of deaf myopic people here in Nottingham, I just want to be ready ,
It's true what they sat about this site friendly and above all very helpful.
Thanx again
Title: Re: Horn
Post by: simonm on 02 May 2013, 09:28:26 am
:D  Thanx guys, there's a lot of deaf myopic people here in Nottingham, I just want to be ready ,
It's true what they sat about this site friendly and above all very helpful.
Thanx again

You've obviously not seen the truck air horn mods people on here do.  They're mental.  Will post a link.  If in doubt, use a relay.

Watch out for the back wheel on the damn tram rails in nottm, they've had me off before...
Title: Re: Horn
Post by: simonm on 02 May 2013, 09:29:38 am
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-Air-Horn-12v-136db-Blast-Compact-Twin-Tone-Loud-Horns-Truck-Lorry-Boat-SUV-/160977962221 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Car-Air-Horn-12v-136db-Blast-Compact-Twin-Tone-Loud-Horns-Truck-Lorry-Boat-SUV-/160977962221)
Title: Re: Horn
Post by: rivett on 02 May 2013, 09:38:52 am
To be honest Simonm, that's the horn I've got, yesterday I tried all day to find a place for it ( on the bike that is  :) ),eventually I gave up ,kicked next doors cat and put the golf horn on,
There's no space you can seem to put it .God knows how much I've spent on cable and fuses and stuff. I'll have another go soon,
Cheers Bud
Title: Re: Horn
Post by: darrsi on 02 May 2013, 09:43:56 am
I made a fella do a wonderful breakdancing move yesterday morning on the way to work.
He just casually walked straight out onto the road without looking as i was leaning turning into a road.
And he can't just say he didn't see me 'cos my indicator beepers are loud enough anyway, it was pure ignorance.
But a good old blast on the airhorn had him doing Michael Jackson moves in no time to get out of the way, as it sounds like a train approaching  :lol 
Title: Re: Horn
Post by: rivett on 02 May 2013, 09:49:02 am
Hey darrsi, is it a stebel nautilus you have on yours?, if so where have you mounted it ?, There's nothing like watching people do the funky chicken as you wake the pillocks up is there?.
Title: Re: Horn
Post by: John Silva on 02 May 2013, 09:55:05 am
I got a stebel magnum and mounted that where the OEM horn fits.
Not as loud as the nautilus but loud a foccing nuff.  ;)
Title: Re: Horn
Post by: simonm on 02 May 2013, 10:22:06 am
To be honest Simonm, that's the horn I've got, yesterday I tried all day to find a place for it ( on the bike that is  :) ),eventually I gave up ,kicked next doors cat and put the golf horn on,
There's no space you can seem to put it .God knows how much I've spent on cable and fuses and stuff. I'll have another go soon,
Cheers Bud


There are loads of posts on the forum showing where these can be mounted.  I don't think any of the locations are pretty, but you I'm sure you can shoehorn it in somewhere  :lol
Title: Re: Horn
Post by: rivett on 02 May 2013, 11:03:13 am
Simonm, Sorry to be an arse,but I checked y/day for ideas and nowt came up, would they have been on the old site ??
Title: Re: Horn
Post by: simonm on 02 May 2013, 11:44:07 am
Simonm, Sorry to be an arse,but I checked y/day for ideas and nowt came up, would they have been on the old site ??

http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,5660.msg57358.html#msg57358 (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,5660.msg57358.html#msg57358)
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,6449.msg60883.html#msg60883 (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,6449.msg60883.html#msg60883)



Title: Re: Horn
Post by: darrsi on 02 May 2013, 12:50:03 pm
Yeah mine is the Stebel Nautilus, there's an old picture of my bike in the link simonm has provided.
I put it under the left infill panel.
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Post by: Foxwood on 02 May 2013, 05:06:17 pm
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-TWIN-AIR-HORN-MOTORCYCLE-CAR-BOAT-VAN-TWO-TONE-KIT-VERY-LOUD-SILVER-NEW-/110925633544?pt=Car_Audio_Video&hash=item19d3aed808 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/12V-TWIN-AIR-HORN-MOTORCYCLE-CAR-BOAT-VAN-TWO-TONE-KIT-VERY-LOUD-SILVER-NEW-/110925633544?pt=Car_Audio_Video&hash=item19d3aed808)


I have a similar model to this installed on my bike. Compressor fit under the tank. The original horn wires restricted the location of the relay, but it fit nicely right under the top part of the tank. All the wiring is nicely tucked away out of sight. All that was left was to use cable ties to attach the horns under left infill where the original horn was at and attach the air hose between the compressor and horns. Installed a 15A fuse and Voila! Instant cager wake-up alarm!  :lol  And it's foccing loud.
Title: Re: Horn
Post by: darrsi on 02 May 2013, 05:10:23 pm
Hey darrsi, is it a stebel nautilus you have on yours?, if so where have you mounted it ?, There's nothing like watching people do the funky chicken as you wake the pillocks up is there?.
The reason i ended up putting the beeping indicator gadget on was purely because everytime i went to turn into my road going home from work there would be someone about to step out in front of me, and whenever i let the airhorn go i never knew whether they were gonna run forwards or backwards so it all became a bit too unpredictable for comfort.
Either that or the horn would simply frighten the life out of them, but in fairness they never take the time to look around when they cross my road.
So with the indicators at least it gives them a bit more of a subtle hint that i'm there.
If they don't do the trick then it's dancing time, and a sly grin from me.
All in the name of safety of course.  :lol 
Title: Re: Horn
Post by: simonm on 02 May 2013, 05:12:39 pm
...The reason i ended up putting the beeping indicator gadget on ...

Beeping indicator gadget ?  Link pls ?
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Post by: darrsi on 02 May 2013, 06:12:59 pm
...The reason i ended up putting the beeping indicator gadget on ...


Beeping indicator gadget ?  Link pls ?


 http://indicatorbuzzers.co.uk/products-page/product-category/indicator-warning-buzzer/ (http://indicatorbuzzers.co.uk/products-page/product-category/indicator-warning-buzzer/)


Here's one i made earlier  :)    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVNrPLSssak (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OVNrPLSssak)
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Post by: Fuzzy on 02 May 2013, 07:13:05 pm
An alternative to the Stebel horns are the twin dual-tone PIAA sports horns which I have fitted. I've fitted them underneath each infill panel with a relay. They fit discreetly and are bloody loud, nice tone too. I have the higher tone 500+600hz. Mine also have weather shields so water ingress is minimised. Have run them through some crappy weather over winter with no issues.
Title: Re: Horn
Post by: darrsi on 02 May 2013, 07:42:40 pm



The shopping dropper........... :eek   http://www.screamingbanshee.co.uk/ (http://www.screamingbanshee.co.uk/)
Title: Re: Horn
Post by: richfzs on 02 May 2013, 08:00:40 pm



The shopping dropper........... :eek   [url]http://www.screamingbanshee.co.uk/[/url] ([url]http://www.screamingbanshee.co.uk/[/url])


Hehe, I have one of these - just need the opportunity to fit it, will report back when done :)

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Title: Re: Horn
Post by: darrsi on 03 May 2013, 06:58:59 am
Hiya Guy's,
Could some one help me out please, I've changed the horn of my 2001 Fzs 600,the one I've put on is off a volksvagon golf, now what's concerning me ,Is that the golf horn might be drawing more power than the wiring harness can manage, I've used the horn with the lights on, with no dimming of the lights or different note from the engine.  Any help would be appreciated.
thanks
Rivett .   :\


Unless you've taken the horn from 'HMS Volkswagen' then you wouldn't have any power problems  :lol
Title: Re: Horn
Post by: Enceladus on 24 May 2013, 09:45:15 am
hi all
got myself one of these air horns, but can't for the life of me figure out how to wire it up!  :rolleyes
any help would be appreciated :)
thanks
Title: Re: Horn
Post by: Stedman8 on 24 May 2013, 10:50:08 am
What sort of connections are on the new horn - are they just the two spade connectors as on the old horn, what is the problem you are having exactly?
Title: Re: Horn
Post by: Enceladus on 24 May 2013, 11:13:00 am
What sort of connections are on the new horn - are they just the two spade connectors as on the old horn, what is the problem you are having exactly?
might just be me being thick or reading too much into the wiring diagram on the box.
just 2 spades on the new horn.
guess i'll "plug and play" and hope for the best  :lol
Title: Re: Horn
Post by: darrsi on 24 May 2013, 11:42:02 am
What sort of connections are on the new horn - are they just the two spade connectors as on the old horn, what is the problem you are having exactly?

might just be me being thick or reading too much into the wiring diagram on the box.
just 2 spades on the new horn.
guess i'll "plug and play" and hope for the best  :lol

 
http://www.bikerhiway.com/installinfo/stebel/wiringdiagram.pdf (http://www.bikerhiway.com/installinfo/stebel/wiringdiagram.pdf)
Title: Re: Horn
Post by: Enceladus on 24 May 2013, 12:21:18 pm
What sort of connections are on the new horn - are they just the two spade connectors as on the old horn, what is the problem you are having exactly?

might just be me being thick or reading too much into the wiring diagram on the box.
just 2 spades on the new horn.
guess i'll "plug and play" and hope for the best  :lol

 
[url]http://www.bikerhiway.com/installinfo/stebel/wiringdiagram.pdf[/url] ([url]http://www.bikerhiway.com/installinfo/stebel/wiringdiagram.pdf[/url])

thanks :)
added to my job list for the weekend :)
Title: Re: Horn
Post by: Punkstig on 24 May 2013, 10:00:36 pm
If you just plug the existing horn wires into the new horn it'll work but be no louder than the current horn,  you have to wire in a relay with direct power from the battery also to get full db power!