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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: Jimmygixxer on 01 April 2013, 12:01:53 am
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Anyone recommend any heated grips, are they worth it and how easy to fit?
Also can a 98 FZS 600 handle the extra power draw from them OK
Cheers all.
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I've got Oxfords on mine (they were fitted when I bought the bike but the switch were knackered), and I wouldn't be without them.
Power draw isn't a problem (Oxfords are quoted as 4A max, and 3A for the Light ones), I have mine on the lowest setting mostly and only turn them up if it's *really* cold (in which case my hands are warm and my feet are cold).
Get them, fit them, wonder how you ever did without them.
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I've got Oxfords on mine (they were fitted when I bought the bike but the switch were knackered), and I wouldn't be without them.
Power draw isn't a problem (Oxfords are quoted as 4A max, and 3A for the Light ones), I have mine on the lowest setting mostly and only turn them up if it's *really* cold (in which case my hands are warm and my feet are cold).
Get them, fit them, wonder how you ever did without them.
Sounds like their worth it.
I can do most things mechanical on bikes , but electrics totally bewilder me, what is the best way to wire them so they cant be left on by mistake when ignition is off, do you know?
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Here you go:
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,5717.msg50182.html#msg50182 (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,5717.msg50182.html#msg50182)
Chris
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This too
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,6807.msg64296.html#msg64296 (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,6807.msg64296.html#msg64296)
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My heated grips stay switched on for probably 80% of the year, they are an invaluable bit of kit, along with my Vee Wipe as well.
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i have some and they are better than no heated grips but i'm not 100% happy with them. (for mid winter riding anyway)
my main issue is they only heat the palm of your hand and your fingers if you grip all the way round. i ride with 2 fingers on the brake lever and these feel no heat at all, i also find the tips of my thumbs suffer too. i do change my grip for motorways but town riding i find people still keep trying to kill me!
my other issue i have is electrical. i have to choose between headlights or heated grips, headlights usually win. they have a safety cut off to stop you draining your battery and unless im always above 4000 revs my grips will cut off. again a bit shite for town riding.
dont get me wrong, i'm not knocking them and they are definatly a nice addition. just don't expect toasty warm hands all year round.
if your budget stretches to it i'd consider heated gloves, however at double the price i wont be buying any.
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I have keis heated grips and keis heated insoles wired in. No problem with running both as well as the lights on. Although to really get the benefit of heated grips in winter, you need to use a pair of bar muffs as well to keep the wind chill off, otherwise your fingers still get cold. I have Oxford Bone Dry bar muffs which I keep on until it gets to about 9 degrees. My hands stay warm.
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@markaboot why are you riding with 2 fingers on the brake lever?
In traffic yes, but not all the time.
Mine haven't got a safety cut out, i don't like the sound of that.
On my brake & clutch lever i've put some heat shrink on so that i'm not touching bare metal, it takes the raw coldness away.
You can also buy sponge sleeving to do the same job.
It's a shame that hand guards can't be fitted 'cos that would help a great deal as well, for taking the wind off your hands, but it's just not possible without hitting the fairing. :(
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@NotAnotherHill, "...9 degrees..." that's the height of summer then.... :lol
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Think i will give them a go, thanks all :thumbup
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Like markaboot I normally ride with two fingers on the brake. These fingers will freeze even with heated grips.
If it's really cold I'll wrap my hands around the grips, but even then your fingertips will freeze while your palms will be scorching.
The best thing I've found is muffs.
Tucano Urbano muffs are absolutely brilliant (model R361 on my FZS600 '02)
I'd probably be fine with just the muffs and winter gloves, but since I already had heated grips on then I use the muffs, grips on low, and summer gloves.
Toasty hands down to -4 degrees.
I've got these grips and they are fine http://www.jsaccessories.co.uk/dr-bike-drmhgc001-drmhg-heated-grips.html (http://www.jsaccessories.co.uk/dr-bike-drmhgc001-drmhg-heated-grips.html)
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Last winter no heated grips: agony even with undergloves :'(
This (seemed very long) winter with heated grips: Bearable!
I was only off the bike 3 days over the winter due to snow. Yeah, I know, a bit of a poof.
ANYHOO, I commute into central london every day and spend a lot of time filtering with my fingers covering the brake and clutch levers. I found these neoprene covers for the levers that stops the metal taking all the heat out of your fingers on Wemoto. They're great, you wouldn't really notice them using the levers and works a treat.
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[size=78%]I've got these grips and they are fine [/size][size=78%]http://www.jsaccessories.co.uk/dr-bike-drmhgc001-drmhg-heated-grips.html ([url]http://www.jsaccessories.co.uk/dr-bike-drmhgc001-drmhg-heated-grips.html[/url])[/size]
Yep, me too. Except mine have a good old fashion temp control, not a modern electronic box, should be reliable and easy to set with gloves on.
http://www.jsaccessories.co.uk/doctor-bike-dr695-heated-grips.html?___SID=U (http://www.jsaccessories.co.uk/doctor-bike-dr695-heated-grips.html?___SID=U)
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Last winter no heated grips: agony even with undergloves :'(
This (seemed very long) winter with heated grips: Bearable!
I was only off the bike 3 days over the winter due to snow. Yeah, I know, a bit of a poof.
ANYHOO, I commute into central london every day and spend a lot of time filtering with my fingers covering the brake and clutch levers. I found these neoprene covers for the levers that stops the metal taking all the heat out of your fingers on Wemoto. They're great, you wouldn't really notice them using the levers and works a treat.
I've put heat-shrink on my levers to take the edge off the cold metal, but i may change it for some of those foam sleeves.
I couldn't be without heated grips now, i'm using fingerless special forces gloves at the moment, but still leave the grips on to get a nice heat boost to balance things out.
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@markaboot why are you riding with 2 fingers on the brake lever?
In traffic yes, but not all the time.
habit from mountain biking, it feels more comfortable.
habit from having people pull out on me even tho i've seen them look at me.
habit because i'm quicker on the brakes when i need to be.
Like markaboot I normally ride with two fingers on the brake. These fingers will freeze even with heated grips.
If it's really cold I'll wrap my hands around the grips, but even then your fingertips will freeze while your palms will be scorching.
The best thing I've found is muffs.
Tucano Urbano muffs are absolutely brilliant (model R361 on my FZS600 '02)
I'd probably be fine with just the muffs and winter gloves, but since I already had heated grips on then I use the muffs, grips on low, and summer gloves.
Toasty hands down to -4 degrees.
I've got these grips and they are fine [url]http://www.jsaccessories.co.uk/dr-bike-drmhgc001-drmhg-heated-grips.html[/url] ([url]http://www.jsaccessories.co.uk/dr-bike-drmhgc001-drmhg-heated-grips.html[/url])
yep agreed, muffs are the only way to stay toasty. if i was riding motorways in winter i'd fit some.
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A few years ago my mate used wind deflectors on his FJR, not sure which bike they were meant for but the fitted his fine. He never used to have a problem in the winter, where i used to get cold thumbs and little finger with hotgrips.
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A few years ago my mate used wind deflectors on his FJR, not sure which bike they were meant for but the fitted his fine. He never used to have a problem in the winter, where i used to get cold thumbs and little finger with hotgrips.
With a standard fairing they don't fit, otherwise i'd have had hand guards years ago. :\
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A few years ago my mate used wind deflectors on his FJR, not sure which bike they were meant for but the fitted his fine. He never used to have a problem in the winter, where i used to get cold thumbs and little finger with hotgrips.
With a standard fairing they don't fit, otherwise i'd have had hand guards years ago. :\
Aha, i'll get my coat, and then start looking into getting some heated grips fitted.
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My one's have off/low/high settings which is very useful.
Don't pay over the odds for them either, i think the Oxford one's are a bit of a rip off to be honest.
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The last ones i had ( think a little older) were oxford ones had a analogue 'volume' control, and a push on/off switch, the guy who fitted then wired them straight (well through a fuse) to the battery so i had to add a relay to stop me leaving them on!!!, the later ones i helped a mate fit had an 'auto off', which didnt seem too keen to switch off (cant remember the make but think oxford) so again another relay. I did find even on summer days i had them on there lowest setting, if i didnt on longer rides my hands used to get stiff.
So far as oxford products go i had a clock/temp gauge from them, not too expensive maybe £20, which failed within a month, when i called them, i was told 'well its a cheap item what do you expect', well actually i expect something i buy to work!!! Would have returned it but as my parents bought it for me i didnt want to run the risk of offending them by asking for the recipt ( they are older).
So convinced myself, job for this week, buy/fit hotgrips and need to get round to fitting usb charger as well.
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Should be wired through ignition really, so when you switch off they go off too.
I bought mine about 4 years ago for about £25-£30, but they're still going strong now, and i use them a lot.
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I cant remember which circuit i used for the relay 'switch' feed, but seem to remember it was something that if my 'added relay' fried it wasnt 'push the bike home time', i did notice the other day halfrauds are selling relays with build in fuse's, keeps things a lot more tidy i guess.
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One to watch out for - I bought myself a set of the cheap (£25) Dr Bike heated grips after seeing them recommended around various bike forums.
These grips were excellent to start with, and certainly kept my hands warm...until the left grip failed about 1.5 months after I got them.
Bought them from J&S, who replaced the left free of charge, and all was good, until about a week later when the right grip failed.
tl;dr Unless I got a bad batch, the £25 DR Bike grips start really well, but tend to stop working pretty quickly!
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A few years ago my mate used wind deflectors on his FJR, not sure which bike they were meant for but the fitted his fine. He never used to have a problem in the winter, where i used to get cold thumbs and little finger with hotgrips.
With a standard fairing they don't fit, otherwise i'd have had hand guards years ago. :\
Just stick them on for winter, and take them back off for summer? You'll just need to be careful when making tight turns that you don't smack your fairing, but it's not that hard! ;)
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A few years ago my mate used wind deflectors on his FJR, not sure which bike they were meant for but the fitted his fine. He never used to have a problem in the winter, where i used to get cold thumbs and little finger with hotgrips.
With a standard fairing they don't fit, otherwise i'd have had hand guards years ago. :\
Just stick them on for winter, and take them back off for summer? You'll just need to be careful when making tight turns that you don't smack your fairing, but it's not that hard! ;)
The levers/bars/cables are only about 1 or 2cm away from the fairing without anything now, so they simply will not fit!
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A few years ago my mate used wind deflectors on his FJR, not sure which bike they were meant for but the fitted his fine. He never used to have a problem in the winter, where i used to get cold thumbs and little finger with hotgrips.
With a standard fairing they don't fit, otherwise i'd have had hand guards years ago. :\
Just stick them on for winter, and take them back off for summer? You'll just need to be careful when making tight turns that you don't smack your fairing, but it's not that hard! ;)
Ahhhh, but i can be particularly stupid at times and would forget within a day.
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A few years ago my mate used wind deflectors on his FJR, not sure which bike they were meant for but the fitted his fine. He never used to have a problem in the winter, where i used to get cold thumbs and little finger with hotgrips.
With a standard fairing they don't fit, otherwise i'd have had hand guards years ago. :\
Just stick them on for winter, and take them back off for summer? You'll just need to be careful when making tight turns that you don't smack your fairing, but it's not that hard! ;)
Ahhhh, but i can be particularly stupid at times and would forget within a day.
Hand muffs are the answer then....I'm having a De ja vu moment thinking we've discussed this before :lol