Post by: His Dudeness on 22 March 2013, 01:12:06 pm
Post by: richfzs on 22 March 2013, 01:25:12 pm
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Post by: His Dudeness on 22 March 2013, 01:31:07 pm
Isn't that exactly why they'll become a classic? Loads of people had, and loved them, but not many left?
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Quite you! :lol I just can't see them surviving all the abuse that people put them through.
Post by: Lawrence on 22 March 2013, 01:33:04 pm
Post by: His Dudeness on 22 March 2013, 01:37:45 pm
They can survive loads of abuse! Mine's been written off three times in the last three years and covered 20k in the last 10 months and still going strong :lol
Yeah but that's what I mean! It'll take a miracle for that bike to last another 20 years :lol If the A-team rode bikes they'd be on Fazers! :lol
Post by: Chris on 22 March 2013, 02:24:20 pm
Post by: bri h on 22 March 2013, 02:24:47 pm
Post by: marksfazer on 22 March 2013, 02:32:15 pm
My bike is one of those fazer's which only comes out in nice weather and is fairly original, but I have no interest in selling it even if I did buy another bike.
Let's face it the Fazer's have bottomed out in price, you can pick up a tatty one for £700 to £900 and when prices are that low there's only one way they can go, Up!
Mark
Post by: bri h on 22 March 2013, 02:34:50 pm
Post by: Dead Eye on 22 March 2013, 02:53:37 pm
Post by: Mick-H on 22 March 2013, 02:57:40 pm
The same will happen with the 1000 people who own them will always have a soft spot for them in years to come buy one to relive a little of their past.
Post by: ChristoT on 22 March 2013, 03:12:45 pm
It's a difficult one, but I think I'm with His Dudeness on this one. As much as they are truely awesome bikes, I'm not entirely sure that they will become true classics...
Explain to me though how the Morris Minor achieved classic status?
I believe the Fazer is a similar equivalent. A reliable workhorse. Though a lot nicer looking, and way better handling! :lol :lol
Post by: noggythenog on 22 March 2013, 03:28:43 pm
I reckon they'll become classics,so many people will have such fond memories of them,whats not to like,they look retro cool now so in another 10 years who nows how wildly diffrent they'll look compared to new bikes,im sure technology on bikes by then will be superb but at the end of the day the fazer outmatches most humans so the humans will need some serious upgrades to match,like all these fancy tv's,theres only so much detail the human eye can see.
Because they were such a popular bike and so many are used as hacks it means that there will be plentiful amounts of parts to keep the last remaining fazers going,if there were only ever a few thousand made then that'd be a different story.
Defo future classic
Post by: Exupnut on 22 March 2013, 03:45:29 pm
I reckon they'll become classics,so many people will have such fond memories of them,whats not to like,they look retro cool now so in another 10 years who nows how wildly diffrent they'll look compared to new bikes
good post urself mate
gen 1....... 6 and 1 both classics
retro cool....the main ingredient of any classic bike
Post by: Revilo18 on 22 March 2013, 03:51:40 pm
Post by: Oldgit on 22 March 2013, 04:46:26 pm
Post by: dBfazer600 on 22 March 2013, 05:06:33 pm
Is it the individual who spends all their spare time tinkering in the shed with it and polishes it more than ride it, then pulls the tarpaulin of it at every chance to an adoring like minded person who dribbles at the site of an immaculate machine.
Or
Does someone in authority of supreme knowledge suddenly wakes one day with a thought of declare it so.
I love my Fazer and its a classic to me
Post by: Revilo18 on 22 March 2013, 05:17:05 pm
Who declares a bike to be classic?
Is it the individual who spends all their spare time tinkering in the shed with it and polishes it more than ride it, then pulls the tarpaulin of it at every chance to an adoring like minded person who dribbles at the site of an immaculate machine.
Or
Does someone in authority of supreme knowledge suddenly wakes one day with a thought of declare it so.
I love my Fazer and its a classic to me
Ok I love my fazer too but it's for riding and riding hard not dribbling over, all that saliva cant be good for the electrics anyhoo.
Post by: dBfazer600 on 22 March 2013, 05:23:04 pm
Who declares a bike to be classic?
Is it the individual who spends all their spare time tinkering in the shed with it and polishes it more than ride it, then pulls the tarpaulin of it at every chance to an adoring like minded person who dribbles at the site of an immaculate machine.
Or
Does someone in authority of supreme knowledge suddenly wakes one day with a thought of declare it so.
I love my Fazer and its a classic to me
Ok I love my fazer too but it's for riding and riding hard not dribbling over, all that saliva cant be good for the electrics anyhoo.
:lol Thats tickled me and this is where mine is today as mother nature hates not only me but all bikers.
22 March 13 and the weather gods hate me because I is a biker |
Post by: taylor on 22 March 2013, 06:17:28 pm
Post by: Revilo18 on 22 March 2013, 06:26:06 pm
Who declares a bike to be classic?
Is it the individual who spends all their spare time tinkering in the shed with it and polishes it more than ride it, then pulls the tarpaulin of it at every chance to an adoring like minded person who dribbles at the site of an immaculate machine.
Or
Does someone in authority of supreme knowledge suddenly wakes one day with a thought of declare it so.
I love my Fazer and its a classic to me
Ok I love my fazer too but it's for riding and riding hard not dribbling over, all that saliva cant be good for the electrics anyhoo.
:lol Thats tickled me and this is where mine is today as mother nature hates not only me but all bikers.
Ahh I admit it is nice to see her all tucked up and warm. Hope you get a thaw soon. Benefits of living in the smog means I've only had three days not riding this winter.
I voted yes, bit maybe more in hope than anything else.
Post by: noggythenog on 22 March 2013, 07:14:14 pm
Some folks can afford 10k for the latest fancy dream bike so to them the fazer may just be a winter hack, to rust and get filthy but in my eyes my fazer is my dream bike so i'd rather get an old Honda as a winter, wet bike as there's a few Hondas that seem to handle the abuse a bit better, i'll keep the fazer for the summer fun, not necessarily all polished up & never used, just spared from the worst the British Isles have to offer it.
I dont quite care if it is declared a classic or not but it would be nice in future to meet some appreciators of a very nice, old bike,probably ex focers wishing they hadnt bought that 10k GS & wondering where their old faithful ended up :b
Post by: red98 on 22 March 2013, 08:39:57 pm
Post by: noggythenog on 22 March 2013, 09:41:44 pm
Post by: dBfazer600 on 22 March 2013, 10:30:38 pm
Post by: His Dudeness on 22 March 2013, 11:17:29 pm
Suzuki x7
(http://www.suzukicycles.org/photos/GT/GT250-X7/1978_GT250-X7_red_450.jpg)
Honda ss50
(http://images.cmsnl.com/classic-honda-gallery/media/display/1/107/image/200509132143110.geleSS50.JPG)
Yamaha fs1e
(http://images.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoGallerys/yamaha-fs1.jpg)
All small low capacity bikes that people probably started on and then moved up in cc and forgot about, and because they were cheap probably parked up in the back of a shed and were forgotten about only to be discovered 20 years later when the people who started on them decide that they want to rebuild them and relive their early biking days and it would probably cost feck all to do. Can a fazer 600 fit into that category? I don't think so they're too practical, they work too well as an every day bike to be parked up. Also if you park up a fazer in your average sized shed/garage you'd be falling over it because it's a good sized 600 so I think what saved those bikes won't save the fazer. I could see a few die hard fans keeping them in mint condition but that's not what a fazer is all about, it's a go anywhere work horse. I hope they do last because I love them but I can't see it happening.
Post by: noggythenog on 22 March 2013, 11:18:12 pm
That will be those with red rad hoses Noggy
You'll soon see sense & spray them over in Blue or start begging me for my 2nd blue set :D
Post by: AdieR on 23 March 2013, 03:08:39 am
Post by: pitternator on 23 March 2013, 06:56:32 am
fireblade
R1
CBR600
VFR750
Fazer 1000
speed triple
GS1200
916/998 duke
all of them created a genre and established good sales and cult following in their time.
Post by: red98 on 23 March 2013, 09:22:24 am
Look at the 3 examples given of bikes that were thought would never be classics and arguably are now
Suzuki x7
([url]http://www.suzukicycles.org/photos/GT/GT250-X7/1978_GT250-X7_red_450.jpg[/url])
Honda ss50
([url]http://images.cmsnl.com/classic-honda-gallery/media/display/1/107/image/200509132143110.geleSS50.JPG[/url])
Yamaha fs1e
([url]http://images.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoGallerys/yamaha-fs1.jpg[/url])
All small low capacity bikes that people probably started on and then moved up in cc and forgot about, and because they were cheap probably parked up in the back of a shed and were forgotten about only to be discovered 20 years later when the people who started on them decide that they want to rebuild them and relive their early biking days and it would probably cost feck all to do. Can a fazer 600 fit into that category? I don't think so they're too practical, they work too well as an every day bike to be parked up. Also if you park up a fazer in your average sized shed/garage you'd be falling over it because it's a good sized 600 so I think what saved those bikes won't save the fazer. I could see a few die hard fans keeping them in mint condition but that's not what a fazer is all about, it's a go anywhere work horse. I hope they do last because I love them but I can't see it happening.
great pictures dude...wish my x7 looked like that :o [size=78%]..........ok i understand what your trying to say,how about we all carry on using them and looking after them..improving as we go...mines an early one ,15 years old now and a long way off a full blown restoration,just a nice clean standard bike thats not been tarted up or resprayed just looked after....if i was to restore it to new it would ruin it.....but if i keep using it and looking after it with parhaps a few small repairs on the way in some ways it would be better than a fully restored one still showing a bit of history......the fact that its a budget bike will put off the collectors but not me........defo a future classic[/size]
[size=78%] keep an eye on early r1`s........thats another one [/size] :)
Post by: Dave48 on 23 March 2013, 10:38:51 am
Post by: mtread on 23 March 2013, 03:39:33 pm
Yes I think the Fazer 600 will be a classic. Everybody had one, best of it's class (at the time), and looks cute.
Post by: demic77 on 28 March 2013, 11:20:53 pm
Post by: Slaninar on 29 March 2013, 07:50:38 am
Will it be widely recognized? Time will tell. Golf II diesel is one of the best cars, do it all, ever built - if there was a new one available, with the same quality, I'd be driving it.
Bad weather? I prefer bicycle - keeps me warm. Use Fazer for fun & traveling, not as a real work-horse.
Post by: noggythenog on 29 March 2013, 08:06:08 am
I reckon it will make classic status similar to how the 400/4 has. Nimble, pokey well priced honest bike that sold well. It'll never be worth mega bucks like Z1 etc but will still be a worthy classic IMHO.
I think this is a good point that it doesnt hav to be worth allot o money to be a classic & it'll prob be the classic for the average man rather than a massively expensive chariot that only the rich can keep in their collections.
Post by: taylor on 29 March 2013, 08:34:53 pm