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General => General => Topic started by: red98 on 18 March 2013, 03:25:29 pm
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had an eye test on saturday and it now looks as if i will have to wear glasses while iam on my bike,just used them for reading and close up work untill now......so any wearers out there with any tips...ie,is a certain helmet better than another,do i put my helmet on and then the glasses...silly questions i know but not been in this situation before.....not had my present helmet long and it is still a very snug fit will this affect the fit of the frames ?..........any tips would be most helpfull :)
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My dad has to wear glasses, and always has. Way he does it, pop the helmet on, then the glasses - they should just slide in.
If your lid is REALLY tight around the ears, then the glasses may rub a bit on your head - but that's something my old man has never actually had himself.
Only thing that you need to be careful for is fogging up, as not only will your visor do it, but your glasses too!
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As JoeRock says, post 'em in the front once you've got the helmet on. If the helmet is tight at your temples then it could make things tricky... might be worth taking your lid along when choosing the frames.
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My solution.. Laser surgery..
I was a glasses wearer that got fed up wearing them for riding.. Worth the expense
Budgie
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cheers guys.....not thought about fogging :rolleyes .......might look into laser but i also have a lazy eye which might rule this out.
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might be worth getting a lid with a pin lock as mine hasn't fogged up yet, and also make sure that the specs don't go from hot to cold quickly as that will cause the condensation.
The way to do this would be to keep them in the case, warm, till the last minute, lift the visor, shove em on, and close the lid.
take it steady until you're happy you know how they'll react and I suspect the quickest way to clear up a foggy would be to open the visor as it will rapidly cool everything to the same temperature (including your face).
good luck, let us know what your discoveries are.
just remember that fogging is caused by going from hot to cold or vice versa quickly
my uneducated 2p. (I don't wear glasses apart from sunglasses and not yet on a bike since my caberg has a sun visor ;-))
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thanks simonm....some good points there.....iam a fair weather rider so iam hoping i can aviod the dredded fogging....still get caught in the odd summer shower though.....i have a built in sun visor as well ,that could be tight on clearence :rolleyes
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Personally I'd recommend contact lenses, much less hassle than glasses :)
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Worn glasses all my life, can't have laser surgery. If possible take your favorite helmet with you when choosing your frames and try them on with your lid on, pressure around your ears is nothing compared to the pressure on the bridge of your nose it will ruin your enjoyment. Full face helmet as Joe said on first then post glasses, Flip front lids are easier to put on you can leave your specs on. Pinlock or anti fog visor don't make any difference to glasses wearers than they do to anyone else.
In my experience breath guards are you worst enemy and will fog specs up in a matter of seconds. There are loads of stuff on the market to help stop specs fogging i use cat crap (yep stupid name but it works) a light smearing of neat washing up liquid does the same. One final tip dont put your brand new specs on your seat while on the side stand and start your bike ........... :'(
oh and i just bought a Shark Vision R very specs friendly has removable inserts so glasses fit better.
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I've never had a problem physically putting them on, although I would make sure not to use thick frames, mine flex a bit when wearing them.
I really recommend contact lenses, especially if you're not used to the reduced peripheral vision that the small glasses limit you to.
In terms of fogging, I just keep the visor up a little bit, the glasses shield your eyes from a lot of wind blast, so it's not as bad as you might think.
I have heard mention the flip front helmets are easier to use with glasses, I've had one and didn't notice much difference, I ended up just using it as a normal helmet because it was much more fiddly to work the mechanism!
Hope that helps from a life long glasses wearer!
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I wear glasses whilst riding, I bought a flip front for ease of putting on ma specs, I have a pair just for the bike, 2 for 1 offer at opticians, only tip I would give is remember they are on your face when you take your lid off, I've knocked mine off on more than one occasion, the dark secondary visor still works well with my glasses on.
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but i also have a lazy eye which might rule this out.
Then bl00dy gerrit dahn t'pit
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Something my dad did say though, you might struggle with bifocals if you use those.
Looking up is ok, but he says it gives him a proper headache trying to look in his mirrors as although he can focus on the mirror itself, anything else doesn't work. Similar story with life savers as well.
Don't know about laser surgery, but I used to have a lazy eye, had two operations on that eye which worked for a bit, but it started drifting back out. THen had an op on the OTHER eye to balance it up somehow, and it worked :)
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have always used contact lenses no problem with fogging, if your Prescription isn't too complicated you can get dailies quite cheap. 30 days riding for 30 ish quid worth looking into
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get a lid with a glasses cutout like this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&catId=131090&item=360612847455&clk_rvr_id=460002416511&afsrc=1 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&catId=131090&item=360612847455&clk_rvr_id=460002416511&afsrc=1)
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I wear contacts but occasionally glasses. Flip up helmet makes it a lot easier, also pinlock stops the fogging. For glasses I would recommend something with very thin arms,
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I use glasses and have done for a while. Used to wear contacts but found they were just as much hassle.
Plenty has been said about getting the lid on etc.
I use a breath deflector in my shoei. There are lots of types, but I use one that fixes to the lid and fits tight over my nose. No fogging even on cold mornings.
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I had some small lens specs made with very thin wire arms, not too much of a "hook" on the bits which go behind the ears, which just slide into place with a helmet on. Made in polycarbonate as it tends to fog less (low thermal conductivity).
Can't locate them at moment, otherwise would put pic up.
Optician said she has a few helicopter pilots use the same frames.
And yes, I've took helmet off with specs still on!
H
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HJC helmets have a glasses groove in the sides for the arms. Always works very well.
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as above. or look for a helmet where the insides can be removed. the split is usually right where the glasses sit.
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I swapped to spring loaded arms on the specs. My old ones were solid and snapped after a while.
Got some stuff I rub on them to stop fogging.
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Get a flip front helmet. So much less hassle when wearing glasses. Put you glasses on, put the helmet on and then flip the front down.
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wow...lots of replies....cheers guys :) ive ordered some thin wire frames and i already have a hjc helmet so might be ok,might look at the shark lid and parhaps flip front ....contact lenes might be good when iam on the bike all day.....lots to think about....thanks for all your replies,most helpful :)
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has anyone worn varifocals on a bike before :)
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A few suggestions:
1) A friend wears specs with his helmet, and has to put the specs on after the helmet. I find this awkward as you can miss the ear (go the wrong side. And after 10mins, it's bloody painful!)
2) I wear a Caberg flip front, which actually has glasses seating. Means I just flip open the lid, and roll my head in, no drama. Much easier, IMO. If you need to replace the lid, DO get a glasses-friendly one, the difference is astonishing.
I can't agree enough with the thin arms statement. Nothing is worse and more distracting than sore ears under a lid. Your ears will need to get used to the new obstacle. When I first got a lid, I solved this by wearing the helmet a little bit every evening to break it in.
Bad luck about the specs though, as a fellow wearer, I sympathise. They're a bloody nuiscance!
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When I first got a lid, I solved this by wearing the helmet a little bit every evening to break it in
:lol And stayed indoors I hope ?
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When I first got a lid, I solved this by wearing the helmet a little bit every evening to break it in
:lol And stayed indoors I hope ?
Yeah, until I forgot to take it off, and walked into the communal kitchen in my helmet, dressing gown and tartan slippers!! :lol :lol
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I wear glasses on the bike but my eyes are not so bad that i can do without them. Ive got an all singing pair of varifocals that go dark when it sunny, anyone remember sunny?. They work well as i can see the clocks and up ahead not sure about mirrors as i keep forgetting about them. they are crap in the cold and wet as they fog up so i dont use them then. wonder if i can get a pair with pinlocks?
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I wear glasses with my helmet and as long as you can get the arms to seat over your ears properly you shouldn't have any trouble. Mirroring the comments about thin arms - it's definitely the best option but if the material is quite thin expect them to bend :P This is both a good and bad thing as it allows them to be flexible but can also deteriorate them over time. My sun glasses (non-prescription) have very thin arms and are so easy to get on in my helmet but they are on their last legs
Contacts are a very good option if you haven't worn glasses before as it takes a bit getting used to looking through the glass rather than at it haha - I would say that wearing contacts all day can make your eyes dry even when not on a bike in the wind so if its a very long day I would probably suggest glasses. Contacts are good for about 8 hours for me at which point they ideally need to be removed - any longer and the dryness causes me to blink something crazy and eventually my eyes begin to water (the irony) and can force the contacts out (severe circumstance)
End of essay.
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Never had an issue with various helmets.
Fogging is a proper pain if not prepared.
I remember being a little nauseas at first as I could see below them and the ground
seemed to move at different rates to everything else. Also used to slam my foot down as
ground seemed further away.
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Never had an issue with various helmets.
Fogging is a proper pain if not prepared.
I remember being a little nauseas at first as I could see below them and the ground
seemed to move at different rates to everything else. Also used to slam my foot down as
ground seemed further away.
Haha, I remember doing all of those things as well!
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I wear Oakley Flack Jacket's that I have not had a problem with any helmets, Arai and Shoie. You need to know your prescription if your opticians don't deal in Oakley and do a search on goggle. They are not cheep but the best I have ever had for riding.
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I wear Oakley Flack Jacket's that I have not had a problem with any helmets, Arai and Shoie. You need to know your prescription if your opticians don't deal in Oakley and do a search on goggle. They are not cheep but the best I have ever had for riding.
ah......was flicking through the hein gerreck book today and came accross something simular........i pick my new glasses up next saturday so will give them a try first ,but i think i will buy another pair just for riding not varifocals without the hook for my ears....will mean having to carry my reading glasses but a small price to pay :) possibly some big lens ones so i cant see around them ;)
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Always worn glasses or contacts and prefer contacts obviously but wear glasses at least once a week as I can't leave contacts in all day and then wear them out on a Friday night.
Bob Heath's stops the misting, apply to both visor and glasses and all clear all day long.
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todays the day i pick up my new specs......two weeks of struggling with my old reading glasses has not been easy at times leading to many headaches :\ ......i have trouble reading the speedo when on the bike all the numbers look the same 88, as iam leading the april london foccers ride out next week thought it best to get sorted :lol :lol :lol :lol
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Dont forget ur hi viz
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todays the day i pick up my new specs......two weeks of struggling with my old reading glasses has not been easy at times leading to many headaches :\ ......i have trouble reading the speedo when on the bike all the numbers look the same 88, as iam leading the april london foccers ride out next week thought it best to get sorted :lol :lol :lol :lol
Red98 what did you go for in the end and how have you found them?
Daz
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todays the day i pick up my new specs......two weeks of struggling with my old reading glasses has not been easy at times leading to many headaches :\ ......i have trouble reading the speedo when on the bike all the numbers look the same 88, as iam leading the april london foccers ride out next week thought it best to get sorted :lol :lol :lol :lol
Red98 what did you go for in the end and how have you found them?
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Daz
hi daz.........well i went for two pairs in the end...vari-focals for driving/riding and every day use inc reading and some straight reading glasses
[size=78%] picked up the vari-focals this morning but reading glasses not ready yet,every day vison has improved greatly but its a bit tricky to read with them,ive got to give it a bit more time to get used to them,the reading part of the lens seams very narrow at moment but early days [/size]
[size=78%]went out on the bike this afternoon took the specs with me but didnt use them,no need,the only problem i have when on the bike is seeing the speedo but could see the digits ok today...used in the car and there was a vast improvement ,not tried the anti glare yet,will try tonight after dark,use to struggle with headlights and street lamps before so looking forward to that[/size]
[size=78%] i need to try when iam on the bike but iam a bit unsure about the vari-focals untill iam use to them at moment iam thinking of changing to normal without the vari bit just for use on the bike,spec savers said they could help with glasses that are helmet friendly,so nice to have a plan to fall back on [/size] :) [size=78%] [/size]
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went to specsavers again today to pick-up my reading only glasses,girl who was fitting them for me is a biker aswell and asked if i had tryed contact lenses on the bike as thats what she uses......so after a natter mostly about bikes she has fixed me up with a free trial......now,..........IF CARLSBERG MADE PEOPLE THEY WOULD BE BIKERS.........test fitting on the 27th :D
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went to specsavers again today to pick-up my reading only glasses,girl who was fitting them for me is a biker aswell and asked if i had tryed contact lenses on the bike as thats what she uses......so after a natter mostly about bikes she has fixed me up with a free trial......now,..........IF CARLSBERG MADE PEOPLE THEY WOULD BE BIKERS.........test fitting on the 27th :D
Fell lucky there mate :thumbup . I have got lazy so now wear my flip up and forget I have glasses on. I have got so use to wearing them that when I is full faced its a slight tug on the lugs as the glassess start to compaline.
Daz
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could be a good solution for me,a free trial so nothing to loose ;)
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:\ I'd go very easy at Specsavers guys ... as always there are the bad experience story sides to these 'wonderful service' people .. and I have mine !!
Long term customer .. booked in .. had eye test .. told I needed a 'considerable update' on my prescription (only two years since last test) because I am 'Getting on a bit in years'' now .. Sat with the bird to decide Frames .. so far OK.
Then she shifts into 'Time Share Selling' mode .. top button open and lean forward .. repeated chat starting with ''What I can do for you, Trev'' First quote for a pair of new gasses and a 'free' pair ... £750 !! Yes that's £750.00.
As I got up to walk out and she started all over again .. take note how they sit close up and side on to you and use a pen and paper (not the computer) This is so you can see how they look around to check no-one is watching :rolleyes and gradually cross things out off the spec list .. to bring the final price down! :rolleyes
We go down through .. £475 .. £350 .. £250 .. but by then it's .. ''Sorry but no 'free' pair at this level Trev''. Total rip- off tactics .. just taking the p*** . Then eventually we got into the.. ''Ok Trev, I can do you a Special Deal for OAPs'' bollox .. bit bloody late for that line now girl!
At the final answer curtain .. she wrote '''Cheeky Chappy'' across my paperwork in Big Red Letters (maybe so I could read it) and threw the pen at the PC! :'( A clear indication (as far as I could see anyway :\ ) that she was getting well beyond p***** off about Not getting her commission! :(
I then had their prescription checked by a different optician .. new eye test came up with nothing like what they had said I needed and .. over three years on .. my ''poor old eyes'' are still not as bad as they said! Avoid is the word as far as I'm concerned.
I got another new test and prescription pair of Varifocals on-line this year .. modern frames and delivered all in for £90 :) with an option of a second pair at reduced cost (but only if I wanted them). I wear them 24/7 (when I'm not asleep like) no problems at all.
Proceed with utmost caution guys .. shop around like you were buying Insurance 8) £$€
Stay Safe ;) Trev
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morning trev,thanks for the warning and sharing the story with us....my bill for a pair of varifocals and a pair of reading glasses £258 more than i wanted to pay,but i say that about everything lately :rolleyes ...good service and double checked at hospital (stoke mandeville) iam happy with the glasses and interested to see how i get on with the contact lenses.............your right about shopping around,i do that for everything ;)
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:) I think there are times when you can't have .. ''Too Much Information'' .. glad you enjoyed the 'Life and Times' type tale.
I've no doubt there are good and bad in all trades .. so you might just drop lucky with the contacts .. I hope so. 8)
Stay Safe ;) ... Trev
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I use Specsavers and the one I used in Bradley Stoke (Bristol) were faultless. Needed new glasses (I knew I needed them as my sight was getting worse) and had my eye test and got two new pairs including frames for £89 - test ended up being free as well but I forget why...
I started my trial of contact lenses as well which gave me another free test 6 months later as I did start these. I've since stopped my contact lenses since I don't use them as much anymore. I used to work in retail so wore them all day for 4 - 7 days a week (depending) but now I sit in front of my PC all day and they make my eyes dry and irritable so can't use them. I have a 6 month backlog of contact lenses to use now which I use for when I'm out on my bike. Should last me another year or two I expect, though this isn't how you are supposed to use them haha
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I tried contacts, but never got the hang of sticking my finger into my own eye!
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think i`ll be ok at poking my own eye,its when other people do it that winds me up :lol
the only down side for me is the extra cost of a disposible item.......not very green unlike putting a gallon of un-leaded in you bike and burning it just for the hell of it :rollin :rollin
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the only down side for me is the extra cost of a disposible item.......
I wear RGP (Rigid Gas Permeable) contact lenses and I've had this pair for at least a couple of years now, they cost me about £75 (I think) which is a hell of a lot cheaper than daily disposables.
I do have to go through the hassle of cleaning them every morning before I put them in, but that's only a minor nuisance and one I'm so used to I don't even think about it.
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That's not actually bad considering mine are monthly disposables and cost £15.50 a month - but to be fair, I do have an odd shaped left eye apparently which put the price up :(
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That's not actually bad considering mine are monthly disposables and cost £15.50 a month - but to be fair, I do have an odd shaped left eye apparently which put the price up :(
Given my prescription ( -10 and -11 dioptres and astigmatism!!) it was, certainly in the past, impossible to get soft lenses to correct it and although they may be available now, it's still cheaper to keep with the RGPs.