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Title: Back down to earth with a bump. Youtube is the cure for over confidence.
Post by: simonm on 24 February 2013, 02:21:28 pm
If you feel you're over confident here is an hour of youtube to bring you down to earth..


no prisoners 2012 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c8_K_wozJY#ws)


Some are ludicrous to the point of funny, some are gut wrenching.  Certainly changes my riding for a day or two.  Car drivers and motor bikers can be pillocks in equal measure ;-)



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Post by: stevierst on 24 February 2013, 02:48:02 pm
I could only watch a few minutes of it, I started to feel a bit sickened.:-[

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Post by: simonm on 24 February 2013, 02:51:22 pm
I think you have to face your mortality sometimes and this is a good way to ensure that you're over cautious rather than gung ho.


I really would advise you to watch the first 40 minutes or so.


It does refresh your perspective.


Sorry the content isn't fluffy bunnies ;-)
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Post by: steeeve66 on 24 February 2013, 02:54:53 pm
shocking the number of cars that just p*ss off after hitting someone
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Post by: simonm on 24 February 2013, 03:03:10 pm
shocking the number of cars that just p*ss off after hitting someone


Agreed.  Shocking too how many bikers are at fault who don't say sorry or apologise to the people that nearly run them over and just stomp after their bike when they caused the whole accident....

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Post by: Jacko on 24 February 2013, 03:13:27 pm
Watched around 15 mins...
Overtaking on junctions or down the nearside seems to be a common theme.

Agree about the amount who just foc off.
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Post by: simonm on 24 February 2013, 03:16:32 pm
Congrats for nerving up to watch any of it :-P.  I watched it to see common themes about things to avoid.  Apart from the stupid tourist things on scooters one of the other reoccurring themes was cars/trucks pulling across lanes and the bike simply moving too fast to stop in time or never seeing it coming.


I guess the advice is that in heavy traffic keep your speed down ;)
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Post by: justy1 on 24 February 2013, 03:17:18 pm
fazer 600 at 3:46. no one on ere is it? :rolleyes

thats made my arm feel all funny watching that. :\



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Post by: Lazarus on 24 February 2013, 03:17:38 pm
some of those are easy to do (target fixation), others are stoopid and the remainder are others being a dick on the road.

fecking LOL'd at the clip at 1hr 08 mins in!!!
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Post by: simonm on 24 February 2013, 03:20:11 pm
1:06:20 is seriously unfunny.
Title: Re: Back down to earth with a bump. Youtube is the cure for over confidence.
Post by: simonm on 24 February 2013, 03:23:26 pm
some of those are easy to do (target fixation), others are stoopid and the remainder are others being a dick on the road.

fecking LOL'd at the clip at 1hr 08 mins in!!!


Hell yah. 1:07:54 to get 6 more seconds of joy.


1:07:37 is funny too.



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Post by: pilgrim on 24 February 2013, 03:45:14 pm
Just got to 27 mins and had to laugh at the guy who ended up lying on top of the mini van thing :lol
Other than that, up to now, scary :eek  and how far do some of those bikes slide??!?!?
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Post by: fireblake on 24 February 2013, 04:07:32 pm
If I ever go to Russia I must remember never to filter?


Mickey
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Post by: Tori on 24 February 2013, 05:45:38 pm
I didn't 'lol' at any of them :'( I just pitied for their skin, all those bare arms...ouchy! Alot were asking for trouble. Some were very unlucky. There must have been alot of broken bones in there for sure.
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Post by: chris.biker on 24 February 2013, 05:46:07 pm
09.35 is the time for me, thank fully must of them seem to be happening abroad, frighteningly though they can come straight here and drive.
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Post by: Bracechenko on 24 February 2013, 07:34:23 pm
Some awful riding, only watched 8 mins but most of them were idiot bikers!
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Post by: bozboz on 24 February 2013, 08:53:53 pm
Does every cage in Russia have a dash cam? :eek Dont like viewing this kind of utube vid so 7mins is enough for me!
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Post by: Lawrence on 24 February 2013, 09:38:34 pm
Dash cams are popular there due to the amount of insurance fraud... people throwing themselves in front of your car for example.
 
24:03, how lucky was he  :eek   Almost followed his bike over the edge.
 
And  :eek :eek  to the one immediately after that one, I bet he was stinging for a while.
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Post by: chaz on 24 February 2013, 11:40:36 pm
Well thats filled an hour in, makes you think, but 2 minuets on the bike and it will be back to normal?
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Post by: dock on 24 February 2013, 11:47:58 pm
Just watched 15 mins of this and just realised ive bitten all my nails off.  :\
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Post by: Skippernick on 25 February 2013, 08:42:54 am
90% are twats on bikes, 5% look like a lapse of concentration and 5% are very unlucky.
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Post by: Skippernick on 25 February 2013, 02:02:33 pm
Our very own at 57.05, xlewisbdx i believe.
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Post by: Lawrence on 25 February 2013, 02:24:14 pm
I didn't 'lol' at any of them :'(
1h 15m 27s should make you  :lol  a bit :)
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Post by: Dead Eye on 25 February 2013, 02:55:13 pm
Our very own at 57.05, xlewisbdx i believe.

Ah legendary, it is as well hahaha
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Post by: pilgrim on 26 February 2013, 03:38:49 pm
Mostly :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek :eek
But agree 1:06:54  :rollin BELL END!!
Last clips funny too :lol
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Post by: alan09 on 26 February 2013, 05:33:10 pm
so many SMIDSY's makes you realise "but by the grace of god". But most them are just knobs, there's a right time & place for speed & the most of them wasn't it.
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Post by: caretaker on 26 February 2013, 10:07:03 pm
i'm with skippernick. although cant quite figure out what the rider was trying to do at 57.45.
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Post by: pitternator on 27 February 2013, 07:52:32 am
you have to have a brush with death to actually take these lessons on board. Me I got a second chance, many dont ...boy every time I go out on my bike I know every second  of riding there is a potential accident around the next corner/junction/traffic queue....since which I have had 7 yrs of accident free riding. Still some close calls, but all avoided by me taking defensive action, rather than panic measures.
Biggest thing I took on board is slow down a bit , look a bit longer , take time to consider what might just be round that corner, keep alert, above all, like the topic says...dont get over confidant...
...considering  yerself too good to crash is actually a potential recipe for disaster... Look at rossi....that crash at misano almost ruined his career, that came from a second of over confidance !
Title: Re: Back down to earth with a bump. Youtube is the cure for over confidence.
Post by: simonm on 27 February 2013, 08:14:37 am
you have to have a brush with death to actually take these lessons on board. Me I got a second chance, many dont ...boy every time I go out on my bike I know every second  of riding there is a potential accident around the next corner/junction/traffic queue....since which I have had 7 yrs of accident free riding. Still some close calls, but all avoided by me taking defensive action, rather than panic measures.
Biggest thing I took on board is slow down a bit , look a bit longer , take time to consider what might just be round that corner, keep alert, above all, like the topic says...dont get over confidant...
...considering  yerself too good to crash is actually a potential recipe for disaster... Look at rossi....that crash at misano almost ruined his career, that came from a second of over confidance !

Well said that man :)
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Post by: Revilo18 on 27 February 2013, 11:30:16 am
you have to have a brush with death to actually take these lessons on board. Me I got a second chance, many dont ...boy every time I go out on my bike I know every second  of riding there is a potential accident around the next corner/junction/traffic queue....since which I have had 7 yrs of accident free riding. Still some close calls, but all avoided by me taking defensive action, rather than panic measures.
Biggest thing I took on board is slow down a bit , look a bit longer , take time to consider what might just be round that corner, keep alert, above all, like the topic says...dont get over confidant...
...considering  yerself too good to crash is actually a potential recipe for disaster... Look at rossi....that crash at misano almost ruined his career, that came from a second of over confidance !

+1 on this. The vid has really made me think again, even though I'm pretty safe already. BIg lesson from watching is ATGATT (all the gear, all the time)!!
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Post by: pitternator on 01 March 2013, 01:08:22 am
maybe we could start a new topic on " near misses"....we all have had them no doubt !...they do teach lessons. Sometimes I do believe I have had a guardian angel, cos when I think back on some of them, the potential was there for serious injury or death if it had happened. I'm not meaning self induced issues either like running wide on bends....but incidents like meeting a lorry just round a blind bend  in the pyrenees coming towards me taking up all the road...the sort of incident which if one had just blundered into it would have been a diffrent story.
I still think my worst was coming across stationary traffic just after a blind but not really acute bend with oncoming cars in the other lane, and only just enough room to stop. That really gets the sphincter going...just thinking 5mph more and I would be" in" the car in front !....
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Post by: maclean on 06 March 2013, 12:26:49 pm
Is it bad that I feel a bit better about my own chances given that a large percentage of those crashes were bikers just stupidly whizzing through unpredictable traffic and almost the inevitable happening?  (only watched first 15mins will watch rest at home)

The crashes that worry me most are the ones where the bikes just go from under the rider for whatever reason and they can be sliding accross potentially fast oncoming traffic.  Also the rear enders as there is really very little you can do about those in the real world other than watching your rear mirrors every time you stop which is easy to forget.

Such a large percentage were bikers just going too fast or not leaving enough room for driver error whilst riding in busy traffic.

Definetly healthy to have some of this in the back of your mind though imo.  Not so much that you ride around scared, but enough to make you think every time you twist!
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Post by: Grahamm on 07 March 2013, 07:28:24 pm
the rear enders as there is really very little you can do about those in the real world other than watching your rear mirrors every time you stop which is easy to forget.

Just get into the habit of doing regular mirror checks, especially whenever you change speed (decelerating *or* accelerating!).

Also when you're stopped behind a vehicle at lights/ a pedestrian crossing/ roundabout or junction etc which is approached by fast moving traffic, always leave a *minimum* of a bike and a half's length between you and them such that, if anything comes up behind too fast, you can plan an escape route down the near-side or off-side depending on conditions.