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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => FZS600 Fazer => Topic started by: xlewisbdx on 05 February 2013, 11:23:20 pm
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Does anybody know how to change the exhaust? What process is required etc etc.
I am about to buy a end can for the bike (DanMoto) and wanted to know how I would change it.
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For starters, make sure your link pipe is the same diameter hole as the new end can and the downpipes, they're not all the same, as i found out when fitting mine!
If it's the same then it's just a jubilee clip to undo and a hanging bolt, hence the term "slip on".
Some people use a high temp silicone sealant to seal the join, i would personally avoid Gun Gum though as it's horribly messy to use and dries solid, so if you want to take it off later on you need to chip it all off.
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There is a jubilee clip to undo just at the end of the link pip where it joins the downpipes (just behind the right riders foot pegs) then there is the hanger to remove from the rear pillion footrest, then it's a "simpl"e case of pull it off the downpipes and "slip on" the new one onto the downpipes and do up the jubilee clip to clamp the seal so it doesn't leak.
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Does anybody know how to change the exhaust? What process is required etc etc.
I am about to buy a end can for the bike (DanMoto) and wanted to know how I would change it.
Download the Haynes Manual in the download section. Go to chapter 4 and section 13. It gives you the procedure with photos. Self explanatory.
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"Should" be that simple, a lot of people buy downpipes before the end can, but my aftermarket downpipes are a different diameter to originals (plus i don't know what make they are either for reference?).
And seeing most end cans are measured and advertised to fit original downpipes then you can have a problem like i did where the link pipe was about 5mm difference in size!
That's when a bit of improvisation kicks in!
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Thanks for the advice guys.
What comes with the exhaust is:
link pipe
hanging strap
bolt with lock nut
Does anybody know about the legalities of it?
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It's all about problem solving when you come up against things like that and usually it's the simple solution that's the best. have a look at the haynes manual and you'll be fine. only way to learn is to get stuck into it. there's always a solution to any problem... sometimes they can be expensive solutions but we all learn from experience and most experience comes from having to solve a problem or two. :D
as for the legalities. it'll say if it's road legal or not somewhere on the advert. My blueflame exhaust comes with a removable baffle. If I leave it in then it's legal and if the baffle is out then it's illegal. simple ;) We all know which sounds the best but we also know that it's not strictly legal. having said that we are bikers and legal isn't always the side we stand on :eek
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we are bikers and legal isn't always the side we stand on :eek
Except for when the MOT comes round ;)
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As far as exhaust go then yes, the MOT can be the killer so Baffles are in for that for sure :)
Although, the eu stamp is on the actual exhaust and not the baffle so you could argue the point that it's got the stamp so it's ok. This is not a good idea and the best thing to do is to keep the baffle in. So I do... most of the time. haha
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we are bikers and legal isn't always the side we stand on :eek
Except for when the MOT comes round ;)
That's another issue altogether, depends on your examiner?
Some want to see BSAU markings or the original exhaust, others don't give a monkeys!
The police like to see a baffle in place, it's an easy thing to spot for them.
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we are bikers and legal isn't always the side we stand on :eek
Except for when the MOT comes round ;)
That's another issue altogether, depends on your examiner?
Some want to see BSAU markings or the original exhaust, others don't give a monkeys!
The police like to see a baffle in place, it's an easy thing to spot for them.
Some police are fine and others aren't. Best to be on the safe side :)
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As far as exhaust go then yes, the MOT can be the killer so Baffles are in for that for sure :)
Although, the eu stamp is on the actual exhaust and not the baffle so you could argue the point that it's got the stamp so it's ok. This is not a good idea and the best thing to do is to keep the baffle in. So I do... most of the time. haha
Most of the time being the one day a year it's needed :lol
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The police like to see a baffle in place, it's an easy thing to spot for them.
I have a Delkevic 350mm at the moment without the baffle in. I've not been pulled over yet ;)
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My last exhaust was a Quill straight through race can, no markings and didn't have a baffle fitted at all, and used to fly through MOT's.
The SP Engineering can i have now has BSAU markings, a baffle, and at the first MOT i got an advisory for noise!!
I then pointed out the legal markings but he'd printed the MOT already so i had a year with an advisory notice on which the police could see on their system if they did an ANPR check on the bike!
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The police like to see a baffle in place, it's an easy thing to spot for them.
I have a Delkevic 350mm at the moment without the baffle in. I've not been pulled over yet ;)
Famous last words.........
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that'll be a ticket tomorrow then! hahaha.
My excuse to my MOT guy was that it's a sports bike it's supposed to be loud, and even with the baffle in the blueflame is wicked, he agreed and through it sailed... Back brake got an advisory though!!! cleaned out, new hel brake line and new fluid, so we'll see how it goes throught the next one!
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The police like to see a baffle in place, it's an easy thing to spot for them.
I have a Delkevic 350mm at the moment without the baffle in. I've not been pulled over yet ;)
Famous last words.........
More than likely, especially if I have a DanMoto on...
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Hmm, friend of mine had a dan moto on his hornet.. wasn't that much louder than stock to be honest...
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Hmm, friend of mine had a dan moto on his hornet.. wasn't that much louder than stock to be honest...
really? They sound super loud on videos. To be honest I want an under tray before a exhaust.
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Hmm, friend of mine had a dan moto on his hornet.. wasn't that much louder than stock to be honest...
really? They sound super loud on videos. To be honest I want an under tray before a exhaust.
Video's can be decieving ;)
What other mods has your bike got?
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Hmm, friend of mine had a dan moto on his hornet.. wasn't that much louder than stock to be honest...
really? They sound super loud on videos. To be honest I want an under tray before a exhaust.
Video's can be decieving ;)
What other mods has your bike got?
Off the top of my head.;
Double Bubble
heated grips
blue lights in the clocks
rear hugger (came with the bike when I bought it)
Delkevic 350mm Stubby (came with the bike when I bought it)
14t front sprocket
You?
Edit: thats a lot of mods now I think about it...
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Black double bubble
clear indicator lenses (probably my favourite mod as it brightened up the whole bike)
had a carbon rear hugger when i got it,
blueflame end can,
k&n air and oil filter,
came with a belly pan on it,
I did the blue led in the dial mod the other day, love them, always hated the greeny yellow lights that were in it,
just had my wheels powder coated black.
Think that's about it. I have a pic or two in my introduction thread "hello from up north" check it out, it's before i put the blueflame on it though.
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Nice.
I want a K&N Air filter but I am restricted to 33bhp so it will increase thus making me illegal. (again) :P
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Ah i see, when does your liscence become unrestricted?? I waited till I could do the direct access and then did my test. Promised my dad I wouldn't get a bike till I was over 21 and had been driving a car for a few years first so I knew the rules of the road and had some experience of how traffic behaves etc.
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If you have a Delkevic end can already, why switch to the Dan Moto? Admittedly I have no experience with either of these brands but I'm not sure I can see the justification.
Also, just to throw it out there, I have a Beowulf Warrior 380mm can which has BSAU markings with a removable baffle. The baffle was in twice over the 9 month period that I was using it :P And it won't be in when I refit it to my new bike. I've never actually been pulled over by the policy, be it in my cars or on my bike :)
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The SP Engineering can i have now has BSAU markings, a baffle, and at the first MOT i got an advisory for noise!!
I then pointed out the legal markings but he'd printed the MOT already so i had a year with an advisory notice on which the police could see on their system if they did an ANPR check on the bike!
Ye poor Brits!!....we Paddys don't have MOTs for the bikes, only for cars!
Sometimes having no money to implentent such things, and being backwards has its good points! :lol
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Ah i see, when does your liscence become unrestricted?? I waited till I could do the direct access and then did my test. Promised my dad I wouldn't get a bike till I was over 21 and had been driving a car for a few years first so I knew the rules of the road and had some experience of how traffic behaves etc.
March 2014
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The SP Engineering can i have now has BSAU markings, a baffle, and at the first MOT i got an advisory for noise!!
I then pointed out the legal markings but he'd printed the MOT already so i had a year with an advisory notice on which the police could see on their system if they did an ANPR check on the bike!
Ye poor Brits!!....we Paddys don't have MOTs for the bikes, only for cars!
Sometimes having no money to implentent such things, and being backwards has its good points! :lol
They've been talking about MOT's for bikes for a while now in Ireland, i don't reckon it'll be too far away?
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Back on original topic...
Watch out for the hanger. The stock exhaust hanger was a P-type, which holds the exhaust out away from the swing arm.
I didn't realise this and fitted an after-market one with a hanger where the tab was central on the pipe. It bolted up OK with a spacer, but then fouled the swing arm when there was weight on the bike ;-)
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The SP Engineering can i have now has BSAU markings, a baffle, and at the first MOT i got an advisory for noise!!
I then pointed out the legal markings but he'd printed the MOT already so i had a year with an advisory notice on which the police could see on their system if they did an ANPR check on the bike!
Ye poor Brits!!....we Paddys don't have MOTs for the bikes, only for cars!
Sometimes having no money to implentent such things, and being backwards has its good points! :lol
They've been talking about MOT's for bikes for a while now in Ireland, i don't reckon it'll be too far away?
Ha Ha...that's about it....talking. They haven't the money to fill in a pot hole over here, let alone the resources to build or lease property to make it happen!!.
It's not like the UK here at all. Bikes make up a very very small population of road users over here, so it might be too costly to set up and run for the amount of bikes that would need MOTed. It probably would cost them money. I mean, ye guys over there have more bikes and bikes shops in London alone, than in all of Ireland here, I'd say!!
Then there is a manpower problem. My city is the 2nd largest in Ireland and they are about 4 small bike shops here with about 4-5 mechanics (1 in each shop on average)....and I don't even think they are qualified mechanics!! So they will have to pinch these unqualified people for the MOT centres...but how will we get our bikes serviced then as some of those shops will cease to function without the mechanics??
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Ah i see, when does your liscence become unrestricted?? I waited till I could do the direct access and then did my test. Promised my dad I wouldn't get a bike till I was over 21 and had been driving a car for a few years first so I knew the rules of the road and had some experience of how traffic behaves etc.
March 2014
You'll have to stop dropping it or there won't be any bike left to unrestrict :lol Glad you're ok from your more recent crash though.
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Just put a motad venom on mine,piece of piss.one clamp on header join and the hanger for the can. K n filter took longer
Than the exhaust
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Ah i see, when does your liscence become unrestricted?? I waited till I could do the direct access and then did my test. Promised my dad I wouldn't get a bike till I was over 21 and had been driving a car for a few years first so I knew the rules of the road and had some experience of how traffic behaves etc.
March 2014
You'll have to stop dropping it or there won't be any bike left to unrestrict :lol Glad you're ok from your more recent crash though.
It's a good job you're a foccer. :lol ;)
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:eek :rollin
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Just put a motad venom on mine,piece of piss.one clamp on header join and the hanger for the can. K n filter took longer
Than the exhaust
Fatboy....I have a Venom too. How does the K&N work with the Venom? Hadn't time to fit my K&N yet, as I might as well balance the carbs if i'm whipping the tank off.
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K&N is a MUST, trust me, and every other Foccer on this forum!!!
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Just put a motad venom on mine
Was looking at a set for about £139 and just about to ask if they fit OK so you've saved me the bother. Just hope I don't have as much trouble with the studs as Dead Eye!
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K&N is a MUST, trust me, and every other Foccer on this forum!!!
I have one. Just wanted to know what to anticipate over the stock filter with a Venom onboard. I'm going to balance the carbs while the tank is off...it's just finding the time to do it.......... :groan
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K&N is a MUST, trust me, and every other Foccer on this forum!!!
I have one. Just wanted to know what to anticipate over the stock filter with a Venom onboard. I'm going to balance the carbs while the tank is off...it's just finding the time to do it.......... :groan
The bike will just breathe a lot easier, it's quite noticeable.......
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Just put a motad venom on mine
Was looking at a set for about £139 and just about to ask if they fit OK so you've saved me the bother. Just hope I don't have as much trouble with the studs as Dead Eye!
Good luck with it! Liberal use of WD40 (or other penetrating fluids) is highly advised. But at the end of the day, if it does all go south it can still be fixed at least :) Looking forward to getting my hands dirty reassembling this weekend :D
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Just put a motad venom on mine,piece of piss.one clamp on header join and the hanger for the can. K n filter took longer
Than the exhaust
Fatboy....I have a Venom too. How does the K&N work with the Venom? Hadn't time to fit my K&N yet, as I might as well balance the carbs if i'm whipping the tank off.
have not been out for a blast yet,seems ok just running.a bit more intake roar :lol
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Just put a motad venom on mine
Was looking at a set for about £139 and just about to ask if they fit OK so you've saved me the bother. Just hope I don't have as much trouble with the studs as Dead Eye!
i just fitted the end can,not the downpipes.the set that are on there came from sandy bikes spares.