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Title: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: shady on 19 January 2013, 12:30:58 am
Okay, maybe you guys have forgotten me (might well resurface at the spring meet :D lol ) but yes Mick is still alive and breathing. Still riding the Hornet all year round which isn t doing it any favours with all the salt and grime attacking the whole bike, brakes, drivechain, coatings, but with plenty maintenance it come up pretty good in summer  :) and still going strong over 68000 miles later.
So anyway moving on, my question is this, when touring and in the saddle for a decent length of time my backside really does start to ache. Even after a stop stretch my legs, bit of a break within 30 miles l'm suffering again !
My plan after managing to buy some memory foam is to strip back the seat cover, cut the existing foam out to make room for replacing the section removed with memory foam?
Apparently its better than gel inserts as it doesn t get really warm like gel inserts and gives better support, has anyone attempted an upholstery job on their seat?  was going to practise on a spare seat but finding a seat for my 06 bike is  like searching for hens teeth! and to be honest l reckon if l took my time and was meticulous l could make a good job of it and save spending a fortune for maybe a lesser job for it turn out not to be as comfortable as l wanted  :'( Any tips would be welcome, l have a good staple gun,staples various length, the foam and ready to have a go, one thing is for sure it ll get done before l do any bog miles again ...


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Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: stevierst on 19 January 2013, 08:30:35 am
I've heard that getting a good pair of padded cycling shorts helps on longer journeys, after a pair myself to try it out.

As for upholstery, just take your time and make sure its right/tight before you commit to staples.
Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: fireblake on 19 January 2013, 08:38:58 am
I have the same problem.  My saddle is a Bagster and is supposed to have a Gel insert but I think its got a house brick insert. Within 20 mikes I'm struggling.  Although I don't notice it when having a blast? 
Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: red98 on 19 January 2013, 09:18:30 am
this will take a few attempts to get right,are you replacing the original foam completly or just slicing a peice out and replacing with the memory foam,i work in the furniture trade and have played around with foam from time to time,theres loads of different types of foam out there........post a few pictures so we can see what your doing.....your idea of getting a spare seat is probaly best...good luck  :)
Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: Tori on 19 January 2013, 09:50:45 am
I recommend more pies/cake. I never have any trouble with my seat. It's all about the bottom ;-)
Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: GringoRojo on 19 January 2013, 10:13:39 am
Thought about airhawk Mick?


Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: red98 on 19 January 2013, 10:27:30 am
I recommend more pies/cake. I never have any trouble with my seat. It's all about the bottom ;-)








sounds like a good solution  :) ............any pictures  ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: caretaker on 19 January 2013, 01:59:10 pm
i've got loads of that memory foam stuff but i cant remember where i put it...
Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: Skippernick on 19 January 2013, 04:36:42 pm
I was going to start another topic but this will do.
My seat gives me bum ache after about an hour, so though about redoing the seat but too expensive, so looked at airhawks but still to dear.
Eventually i found one of these.


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOTORBIKE-COMFORT-SEAT-PAD-NOT-GEL-NOT-AIRHAWK-BMW-Honda-Kawasaki-KTM-All-bikes-/261151220799?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3ccdd3643f (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MOTORBIKE-COMFORT-SEAT-PAD-NOT-GEL-NOT-AIRHAWK-BMW-Honda-Kawasaki-KTM-All-bikes-/261151220799?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3ccdd3643f)


At £25 they are quite cheap, and even if it means i only last another hour its well worth the money. I have tried it and its pretty good but also raises the seat by about an inch which is great for my knees.


So something else to consider.
Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: Tori on 19 January 2013, 07:45:37 pm
I recommend more pies/cake. I never have any trouble with my seat. It's all about the bottom ;-)









sounds like a good solution  :) ............any pictures  ;) ;) ;)



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Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: red98 on 19 January 2013, 08:27:47 pm
nice one tori  :rollin :rollin
Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: shady on 20 January 2013, 12:19:44 am
Thanks for the interest/advice guys/Tori, the idea of airhawk l know about but they're not what l want. They raise the seat height and look crap in my opinion, not to mention the fear of getting it nicked  :eek
Managed to get some memory foam, my plan is to cut out say an inch of the seat foam and replace the exact piece with memory foam and re staple back the cover, all sounds easy but hey l really do need to get the seat sorted before my high mileage trips this year, suffered long enough with sore posterior  :rollin
Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: GrahamB on 20 January 2013, 09:34:51 am
Might pay you to angle the slope of your seat back a bit whilst your at it ie, remove more foam from the rear part than front. Fazer seat tends to force your gonads towards the tank on long journeys.  8)
Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: spoonlamp on 20 January 2013, 10:13:28 am
The seat on my current Fazer is a lot firmer than the one on my last. I'm wondering if just taking the leather off and plucking out a few bits of the foam out here and there, maybe a couple of deep but thin tubes, might soften it up the right way...
Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: GrahamB on 20 January 2013, 10:26:52 am
Deep, thin tubes?? Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: fireblake on 20 January 2013, 10:42:30 am
I've been trying Tori's advice but the cakes never went where I wanted them to. Alas, no more wheelies.


Chubby Mickey
Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: bigfootpete on 20 January 2013, 11:15:21 am
I thought I posted this before but couldn't find it if I did.

I have a gel seat from Dan Medica south - they have a specialised motorcycle section and have just added a
beaded seat which I bought as well (only got it for my flight to NZ - those airline seats suck!)

http://www.danmedicasouth.co.uk/product/motorcycle-beaded-seats/ (http://www.danmedicasouth.co.uk/product/motorcycle-beaded-seats/)

Before I got the gel seat I couldn't ride for much longer than an hour before discomfort - now I can ride all day :)
Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: dickturpin on 20 January 2013, 04:42:30 pm
mmm that beaded seat looks interesting for a long run.....anyone tried one, or similar?
Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: shady on 20 January 2013, 05:44:51 pm
Thanks for the advice Graham, but dare l admit it l dont own a Fazer these days, had 3 in the past but had my CB600F5 Hornet now for 7 years  ;)   Will set about my seat when the weather gets a bit better and keep you guys posted on the merits of memory foam ...
Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: spoonlamp on 20 January 2013, 06:38:47 pm
Deep, thin tubes?? Am I missing something?


lol - my explanation is terrible. Just wondering if putting a couple of long holes through the foam would give it more ... give...
Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: fireblake on 20 January 2013, 07:24:40 pm
The bead cover looks great but my tiny tots legs would make anymore seat height a problem?




Mickey
Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: GrahamB on 20 January 2013, 07:55:12 pm
You may actually need firmer sponge not softer. If soft sponge is squashing flat you might need something that gives your cheeks more support. Nice image?  :lol
Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: PlasticHarry on 20 January 2013, 08:15:23 pm
Gel seat? Try these:
http://www.lovemybubbles.com/land-padded-panties.shtml (http://www.lovemybubbles.com/land-padded-panties.shtml)

Cheaper and you never know....

H
Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: spoonlamp on 20 January 2013, 08:41:20 pm
You may actually need firmer sponge not softer. If soft sponge is squashing flat you might need something that gives your cheeks more support. Nice image?  :lol
Seat I had on my previous Fazer was less hard and more comfortable than the one I have now...
Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: GringoRojo on 20 January 2013, 10:18:22 pm
Sheepskin
Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: shady on 21 January 2013, 12:08:57 am
Sheepskin, animal coats  :eek now this is getting silly, l'm mounting no sheep, my bike will do fine and hey this is no western so sheepskins, cowhides, a saddle with stirrups are all out of the question and no more inflatables please  ;)
Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: Skippernick on 21 January 2013, 01:47:50 pm
Gel seat? Try these:
[url]http://www.lovemybubbles.com/land-padded-panties.shtml[/url] ([url]http://www.lovemybubbles.com/land-padded-panties.shtml[/url])

Cheaper and you never know....

H



Now that had nothing to do with this topic. :lol
Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: GringoRojo on 21 January 2013, 01:53:44 pm
it was a serious suggestion - apparently they are great for distance comfort. never tried one myself though.
Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: richfzs on 21 January 2013, 04:23:59 pm
Lots of rtw riders (real ones, as opposed to ewan and Charlie) swear by sheepskin covers

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Title: Re: Uncomfortable seat
Post by: Jinx46 on 21 January 2013, 04:55:21 pm
My brother has a sheep skin on his xt660 tenere and says the seat is lot more comfortable with it on especially on long journeys