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Title: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Dead Eye on 14 November 2012, 11:08:50 am
This is very much a long shot and just in case anyone can see anything of worth. My bike had a bit of an incident with fire whilst in a garage and it didn't survive  :'(

I have no intention on claiming on the insurance since the excess is at least half of what they would pay out and I can't afford to add anything to that to replace it. So, if you want to pick the bike clean be my guest, I'm not charging anything but obviously if you want it posted then that's up to you to arrange. The bike is in Chelmsford so if anyone is local you are welcome to come round

Parts that are Unavailable
Downpipes
Exhaust End Can
Brake Callipers (Lawrence)
Front Sprocket (Lawrence)
Cam Cover Ends (Lawrence)
Right Crank Case Cover (bmseven)
Front wheel (Fuzzy)
Clutch Cover (Stedman8)
Generator Cover (Stedman8)


(http://www.imperial-empire-se.com/images/foc-u/20121018_154222_resized_1.jpg)

(http://www.imperial-empire-se.com/images/foc-u/20121018_154414_resized_1.jpg)

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(http://www.imperial-empire-se.com/images/foc-u/20121018_154448_resized_1.jpg)

So if any foccer is mad enough, there might be something of use here?
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: spoonlamp on 14 November 2012, 12:07:20 pm
That is a real shame, sorry to see that   :'(
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: redrat on 14 November 2012, 12:57:03 pm
gutted for you fella !
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: caretaker on 14 November 2012, 07:11:32 pm
bit of t-cut should sort that out!!
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: bm on 14 November 2012, 07:30:04 pm
pity your not closer as could do with engine parts

Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: andy352299 on 14 November 2012, 08:23:25 pm
gutted for you
i am in chelmsford but at the moment i dont see anything i need, but you can guarentee as soom as you get shot of it i will need something.
if you are having difficulty getting rid of it i could probably borrow a van
 
hope everything works out o.k
 
 
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: paulchucky on 14 November 2012, 10:00:35 pm
wow thats a real shame there matey  im gutted for you !

there be some dead people if that ever happen here
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Lawrence on 15 November 2012, 08:50:03 am
Hi mate, what sort of condition are the brake (front and rear) calipers in?  Did the seals survive ok?  Also how old were the sprockets?
 
Any idea what caused it?  :(
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: HarryHornby on 15 November 2012, 09:06:31 am
Could always speak to Deefer about plastic welding the fairing back together!  :b
 
Did you narrow the fire down to the coke bath in the end?
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: ponkster on 15 November 2012, 09:22:58 am
Did you find out what caused the fire?
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Lazarus on 15 November 2012, 01:23:33 pm
absolute bastard m8 - gutted for you.

surprised the tyres survived that fire tbh
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Dead Eye on 15 November 2012, 01:57:33 pm
Wasn't expecting any replies... wow...

gutted for you
i am in chelmsford but at the moment i dont see anything i need, but you can guarentee as soom as you get shot of it i will need something.
if you are having difficulty getting rid of it i could probably borrow a van
 
hope everything works out o.k

I haven't really tried to get rid of it, just figured I'd give you guys a first crack it. You are more than welcome to come and take it away if you want :)

Hi mate, what sort of condition are the brake (front and rear) calipers in?  Did the seals survive ok?  Also how old were the sprockets?
 
Any idea what caused it?  :(

Calipers weren't too bad before - I'd scrubbed them up less than a month before this happened. Not too sure on the seals, I'll try and get the callipers off and take some photos for you. The sprockets are about a year old and covered about 3 - 4k miles.


As for the cause, nothing confirmed but leading suspicion is still the ultrasonic bath. I don't think the house insurance company are bothering to investigate or anything

absolute bastard m8 - gutted for you.

surprised the tyres survived that fire tbh

Well the rear tyre certainly didn't, but the front managed to - not sure if the plastic well come off though...
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: bmseven on 22 November 2012, 02:58:03 pm
Shit that's not good, claiming on your house insurance?
Any chance I could have the little engine cover on the right hand side only down the road in Tiptree
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Dead Eye on 22 November 2012, 03:17:08 pm
The house insurance won't cover the bike and the contents insurance rejected the claim for everything else which is ridiculous, not impressed.

I'll see about getting the engine cover off for you and get some pictures for you :)
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: bmseven on 22 November 2012, 10:36:55 pm
No worries happy to come and remove it myself.
Why was the contents claim rejected?
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Dead Eye on 23 November 2012, 01:35:37 am
Because the white goods don't belong to us, they belong to the landlord. Bloody stupid but there we are
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Lawrence on 23 November 2012, 01:06:35 pm
Just thought, could I get those four things off the ends of the cam covers and the things bolted onto the ends of the radiator too please?  :)
 
Previous owner decided to paint mine (along with the caliper and fuel flap, including lock  :grumble ) with bright red gloss paint.
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Dead Eye on 23 November 2012, 01:20:57 pm
Sure, they should whip off fairly easily :)


Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Lawrence on 23 November 2012, 01:54:28 pm
Sure, they should whip off fairly easily :)
:thumbup Are you around this evening?  7-8ish?
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Kosmic Kartman on 23 November 2012, 08:54:01 pm
That's absolutely rotton. Feel for ya.

Did you find out what started the fire?

Title: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: cable tie on 24 November 2012, 09:19:50 am
Oh feck that must have been some blaze, I bet your landlord nearly had a heart attack when you told them. 
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Dead Eye on 24 November 2012, 10:47:36 am
Luckily the landlord has been pretty cool about it and said something along the lines of "well, I needed a new garage anyways" :P
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Fuzzy on 24 November 2012, 10:22:27 pm
What condition are the front brake discs in?

Sorry to see this Dead Eye  :( Hope it all works out in the end, will you replace it?



Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Dead Eye on 25 November 2012, 12:32:51 am
Discs may have survived since they can take the high temperatures but will definitely need a clean up. They were fine before the incident with no sign of pitting or warping etc

As for replacing it, I fully intend to as I loved my bike :( I'd have bought a replacement already if I had the money but that's where things have gotten very very tight for me and although I can afford to run it, I can't afford to replace it. My focus at the moment is to get my cage back up and running (gearbox swap on an MG ZS) then hopefully save up some money after christmas and potentially be able to afford one before summer? But even that's optimistic I expect... I miss it :(
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Fuzzy on 26 November 2012, 01:50:48 pm
Thanks for getting back to me - having thought about it properly though, I imagine getting the discs off the wheel would not be straight forward! Not sure about carrying the whole wheel on my bike even if you were willing to part with it...

At least you have a car to see you through winter, believe me you're not missing much thanks to the weather. Maybe another Fazer or something different? At least you have the fun of bike shopping to look forward to next year  :)
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Dead Eye on 26 November 2012, 01:53:38 pm
How far away are you?

Based on everyone's opinion of the Fazer (including my own) I can't see myself replacing it with anything else other than another Fazer ;)
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Fuzzy on 26 November 2012, 06:29:45 pm
No, you really can't go wrong with another Fazer.

I'm in west London, would've been perfect had I not forgotten that removing discs probably involves more than popping them off, shoving them into a bag and riding home! I'm guessing they'd be a bugger to get off the wheel.

Are you okay parting with the whole wheel? I suppose with enough bungees I could secure it on the bike, my discs are really worn and will need replacing soon  :(
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Dead Eye on 26 November 2012, 06:51:16 pm
I'm not entirely certain as to the procedure for removing the discs but I assumed it would have been a case of unbolting them :s I guess I'll try and get out in the garage when work isn't quite so crazy.

You are move than welcome to the entire wheel however :)
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Fuzzy on 26 November 2012, 08:14:12 pm
I think it is just a case of unbolting them but I'm not sure if it'll be as easy as it sounds, have heard that they're often very very tough.

Might come and have a look of that's okay - I will send you a pm in a mo.
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: markbubble on 26 November 2012, 08:28:50 pm
disc bolts can be a real pain and if you round head/s off then even worse so have a realy good fitting hex socket(cant remember size off top head) a windy gun be best way if not a good wack with impact hammer should do it,also worth try get some heat(i know its already had a load already!) onto bolts,idealy a real small flame this will help with the removal,good luck remove it they have  either gone quite easy or total pig when iv had to do them!
 
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Fuzzy on 26 November 2012, 09:07:00 pm
Thanks Mark, that confirms my suspicions...

Recently, one of my spark plugs stripped the threads of the cylinder head and got stuck in there (before snapping) during a routine service. In the end the cylinder head had to be removed and a new thread made.... So, knowing my luck, I'll probably take the whole wheel and get a garage to sort it out!
Title: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Topcat2006 on 26 November 2012, 09:40:58 pm
Just grind them off - the bike's scrap?

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Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Dead Eye on 27 November 2012, 12:59:40 am
Thanks Mark, that confirms my suspicions...

Recently, one of my spark plugs stripped the threads of the cylinder head and got stuck in there (before snapping) during a routine service. In the end the cylinder head had to be removed and a new thread made.... So, knowing my luck, I'll probably take the whole wheel and get a garage to sort it out!

Seems fairly sensible as the wheel should come off relatively easily compared to the discs. It's a pity the tyre didn't survive a bit more as I'm sure it had a reasonable amount of life left in it - although its still inflated, I'm not sure I'd trust it...
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Stedman8 on 14 December 2012, 04:29:04 pm
First off sorry to hear about the fire :eek hopefully nobody was hurt, could you give me first shout on the starter gear cover and the clutch casing cover. As I live in Chester postage will have to be arranged would you want me to sort out a courier or such like or could you post at my cost with a bit for yourself for your trouble,cheers Steve
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Dead Eye on 14 December 2012, 04:51:51 pm
I think the starter gear cover has already gone but the clutch casing is still in place. I'll take a photo tomorrow when there is light to show you that side of the bike as it currently is :)
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Stedman8 on 14 December 2012, 05:09:44 pm
Cheers Dead Eye

Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: brianjonze on 15 December 2012, 03:56:42 pm
Hey, very sorry to see that!


Have you still got the bike or have you ditched it now? I am wandering about the top yoke, the casing which houses the ignitions is bust on mine.


Thanks.
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Dead Eye on 16 December 2012, 12:08:23 pm
@Stedman8
Sorry about yesterday, had a rather bad bug which kept me in bed most of the day - I've sent you a PM with the photo of the bike :)

@brianjonze
Bike is still around and the top yoke is still here as well :) Downside is that after Wednesday I likely won't be around until after Christmas sometime
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Dead Eye on 16 December 2012, 12:19:53 pm
Oops, got an error so assumed my previous message didn't post correctly - ended up posting it twice  :rolleyes
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Dead Eye on 02 January 2013, 01:24:59 pm
Right, its come to that time where the bike really does need to go in its entirety now. So last chance to grab any bits before it gets collected by some scrap merchants I expect. I just don't have the time to strip it for the remaining parts and its likely that the garage is going to be torn down and rebuilt within this month leaving no where for it to be stored.
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: bmseven on 02 January 2013, 02:39:35 pm
Hi Liam
I might be interested in taking the whole lot away, let me know  :)
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Dead Eye on 02 January 2013, 02:40:29 pm
You are very welcome to it - list of missing stuff is in the first post on the first page of this thread.
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: bmseven on 02 January 2013, 02:54:14 pm
You are very welcome to it - list of missing stuff is in the first post on the first page of this thread.
Not a lot different to when I saw it.
Did you get the gearbox fitted in your car OK?
Title: Re: FREE FZS 600 '99 - Fire Damage
Post by: Dead Eye on 02 January 2013, 02:56:35 pm
Eventually ended up renting an engine crane and got it all fitted successfully. Car is finally off the driveway and running ^^

And yeah, not a huge amount different. The only real thing is the missing front wheel, but at least the car isn't in the way of the garage door any more.