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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner => Topic started by: sadlonelygit on 11 October 2012, 11:35:47 am
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they're pretty foccing dire aren't they!
what are the options/solutions for improved illumination.
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Personally never had an issue with the stock lights but others on here reckon there are Philips lamps which offer a brighter light for the same watt rating, I would not be tempted to go for much higher wattage lamps incase you overheet the wiring....
P
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A decent set of 50% Brighter Bulbs & LED side lights... Jobs a goodun ;-)
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Additionally you could buy a set of LED driving lights to enhance the dip beam and they would pull next to no wattage. Its something I have been looking into, Im trying to find the best price/perf ratio though.
Bikevis are selling a set, but as they are asking £115 and only a 1yr warranty which to me is a bit steep, if it was 2-3yr then I would be interested. Additionaly I cant find any reviews for them on the web, so dont know how good or bad they are art putting usefull light on the road.
- http://www.bikevis.com/motorcycle-cree-led-aux-light.html (http://www.bikevis.com/motorcycle-cree-led-aux-light.html)
Thre are other makes out there but more pricey, and then there is the ones from China....
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dont ride at night :rolleyes
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Get some decent replacement bulbs and I reckon they are good enough. Never had to consider going to HID as I did on the FZS600 because the originals on that really were crap.
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Additionally you could buy a set of LED driving lights to enhance the dip beam and they would pull next to no wattage. Its something I have been looking into, Im trying to find the best price/perf ratio though.
Bikevis are selling a set, but as they are asking £115 and only a 1yr warranty which to me is a bit steep, if it was 2-3yr then I would be interested. Additionaly I cant find any reviews for them on the web, so dont know how good or bad they are art putting usefull light on the road.
- [url]http://www.bikevis.com/motorcycle-cree-led-aux-light.html[/url] ([url]http://www.bikevis.com/motorcycle-cree-led-aux-light.html[/url])
Thre are other makes out there but more pricey, and then there is the ones from China....
I bet they're all originally from China - the expensive ones just have better quality control! Hence the line "Sourced by BikeVis,,,"
Crafty Bikevis sell them on ebay for a tenner more than on their web site, and they use the exact same illustration main photo for another system at twice the already eye-watering price
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorcycle-Auxiliary-Lights-BikeVis-Cree-LED-Aux-Lights-/180952105986?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2a21960402 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorcycle-Auxiliary-Lights-BikeVis-Cree-LED-Aux-Lights-/180952105986?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2a21960402)
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorcycle-Auxiliary-Lights-Vision-X-Solstice-Solo-/180741723943?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2a150bd727 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Motorcycle-Auxiliary-Lights-Vision-X-Solstice-Solo-/180741723943?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item2a150bd727)
The second one melts snow and ice too, it seems: "The unbreakable poly carbonate lenses are housed by a 6061 aluminum face plate which doubles as a radiant heat sink to melt away snow and ice in frigid conditions."
If it's melting snow, where is the power coming from I wonder?
I actually do want some as running lights, but not at those prices, and eagerly await further news on your price v performance research!
Colin
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Actually pretty darn good.
Even better if you fit some 100% brighter Philips Extreme lamps.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-12342-XVS2-X-Treme-Power-Bulbs/dp/B00440CWBW/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1350210273&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Philips-12342-XVS2-X-Treme-Power-Bulbs/dp/B00440CWBW/ref=sr_1_1?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1350210273&sr=1-1)
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VNA, I was looking at these...
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Osram-O472NBP-Nightbreaker-Plus-Bulb/dp/B003Y7FKTC/ref=sr_1_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1350211246&sr=1-2 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Osram-O472NBP-Nightbreaker-Plus-Bulb/dp/B003Y7FKTC/ref=sr_1_2?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1350211246&sr=1-2)
Do you have info or experience to suggest the Philips are better?
D
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i just ordered a pair of these:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120875453914?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/120875453914?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649)
i'll post up a picture and details. i figured for the money they would be worth a try. my led side light bulbs are pretty good so i'm optimistic.
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bludclot, which sidelight bulbs did you go for? ebay has a wealth of different ones, some with six led's some with glass dome bulbs and some with the yellow panels???
How confusing can this be?
D
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i bought these:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-FZS-1000-RN061-FAZER-1w-LED-Sidelight-Bulbs-/200832727959?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2ec2903b97 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/YAMAHA-FZS-1000-RN061-FAZER-1w-LED-Sidelight-Bulbs-/200832727959?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2ec2903b97)
see this thread with a picture:
http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,3222.0.html (http://foc-u.co.uk/index.php/topic,3222.0.html)
the seller sent another bulb straight away, brilliant service. turns out that didn't work either. i played with the tiny connection wires and managed to get all 3 working eventually. seller refused my offer of returning one of them so great again as i now have a spare.
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The Philips lamps usually lead the market. Tests I've seen in the past put em in front for output and beam focus.
I'm the sure the Osram ones will be fine, a decent improvement on standard H4's and for the price better value.
Oh one of the Philips lamps I fitted to my car seven years ago has just failed. Not bad, the other one is still burning bright.
And of course remember don't touch the glass part of the lamp when fitting. Perhaps wear surgical gloves just in case you slip. Grease from even clean fingers will shorten the life of the lamp.
Good luck with those LED H4 lamps, I hope you don't expect to actually see where you are going with them?
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sadly i may have been spoilt with my last bike (BMW with projector lens and 6k hid) which was a fantastic set-up.
but my 26 yo katana has a better light set up than the fazer.
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Here's a projector lens and 6k hid from those Bikevis folks
http://www.bikevis.com/motorcycle-hid-xenon-conversions.html (http://www.bikevis.com/motorcycle-hid-xenon-conversions.html)
Looks like a bargain at £70-ish, or am I missing something?
Colin
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spot the difference
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k104/homeorwork1/2012-10-15204534.jpg)
and now!
(http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k104/homeorwork1/2012-10-16211924.jpg)
£28
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So what did you use in the end?
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6k hid set up.
just need to hide the wiring now
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6k hid set up. just need to hide the wiring now
You'll need to keep the old bulbs for MOT, as the HID will now not pass due to recent changes.
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6k hid set up. just need to hide the wiring now
You'll need to keep the old bulbs for MOT, as the HID will now not pass due to recent changes.
:rolleyes well my bike went in for it mot last week and past no problems with the hid fitted to the bike :)
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well my bike went in for it mot last week and past no problems with the hid fitted to the bike
They were being nice, technically they should have failed the bike, do to the scatter.
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I just got a set for the car if they are any good I'll get some for the bike £45 delivered.
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I just got a set for the car if they are any good I'll get some for the bike £45 delivered.
:lol HOWEVER there is a difference between "legal" and passing a MoT and in either case there are no "reasons for rejection " in the testers manual in respect of HID headlamps providing of course the beam test is passed. So you may pass the MoT :D
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It'll be fine (http://www.saabscene.com/forum/images/smilies/thumbsup.gif)
they will pass HIDs as long as "the beam pattern is correct, what actually produces the light isn't our business" they said ,
or just take it off for the next mot then put it back on ;)
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I just got a set for the car if they are any good I'll get some for the bike £45 delivered.
£26.59 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220930034105?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649) with digital mini ballasts.
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I just got a set for the car if they are any good I'll get some for the bike £45 delivered.
£26.59 ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220930034105?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649[/url]) with digital mini ballasts.
Same bulbs and ballasts but a different loom, mine are just plug and play no extra wire's to run to battery.
Good price tho'
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/198759_287758661326051_257831412_n.jpg)
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my led bulbs arrived. i haven't decided whether they are better than standard bulbs or not, that will have to wait for some riding. the light is certainly different. the led bulbs are less focused in front of the bike but give more peripheral detail:
(http://portchesterpropertymaintenance.co.uk/images/fazer/standard.jpg)
(http://portchesterpropertymaintenance.co.uk/images/fazer/led.jpg)
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hmmm only a ride will tell the full story but that looks a little to fluffy to be of use on the road.
Just got today a set of philips 100% brighter bulbs. not been out to fit them yet but as i now go to work in the dark and return in the dark and its 45 miles a day i wanted to try to give me a slightly better edge. most of the roads to work and back are unlit.
to be honest the OE bulbs aint that bad as they have not been replaced since new in 2004. thats pretty good going :)
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osram nightbreakers - £11.75 delivered.
(http://portchesterpropertymaintenance.co.uk/images/fazer/osram.jpg)
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I find the standard headlights on the FZ1 are absolutely the best thing ever!!
But...
my previous bike was a square eye FZS600 :P
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I find the standard headlights on the FZ1 are absolutely the best thing ever!!
But...
my previous bike was a square eye FZS600 :P
Then you will be delighted to know that the best can get even better! Seriously though, the standard lights are not bad, but until recently I would have always said that the Osram or Philips extra bright bulbs are worth every penny. However, this weekend I fitted a cheap as chips HID kit that was actually cheaper then the Philips. The wiring harness was for a car not bike and it was a pain in the arse to find places to fit and secure all the bits, and it will probably fall apart ina couple of months, but bloody hell, HID for £25 :eek
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ive got Osram night breaker plus on both my bikes.....honestly make a big difference.
Was chatting to bloke a while ago who had just got HIDs fitted, said it was like drivng with modern car headlights strapped to the front of his bike. But...he did say it makes him ride faster at night as he feels safer due to being able to see more.
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fitted the philips 100% brighter ones a few days back. deff an improvement but not HUGE. but still worth the 15 odd quid
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I just got a set for the car if they are any good I'll get some for the bike £45 delivered.
£26.59 ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/220930034105?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649[/url]) with digital mini ballasts.
Cheers, just bought from this seller. I asked if he could send 1 x H4 and 1 x H1 instead of a pair of H4s, so here's hoping!