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Bikes, Hints'n'Tips => Fazer 1000/FZ1 corner => Topic started by: dazza on 25 September 2012, 06:37:23 pm
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Hello fellow Focc'ers, have seen in the past some threads about a decent replacement horn. Mine is a little short of pathetic and have had several instances where I have really wanted to give someone a good warning blast but have only been left feeling totally inadequete and slightly embarrassed. So, can anyone point me in the right direction and restore my ability to get noticed when it matters. Cheers. :)
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I have heard the Stebel Nautilus ( I think thats what its called) is a very loud air type horn that is a direct replacement. (as far as I remember). Hope that helps.
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I have the Stebel Nautilus. Where have others fitted it?
Couldn't find a hidden place at the front of my fzs600
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If like me you want a standard looking horn the acumen ones are good. I got one from these people on ebay http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acumen-Motorcycle-12V-Extra-Loud-Replacement-Horn-/261103345031?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3ccaf8dd87 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acumen-Motorcycle-12V-Extra-Loud-Replacement-Horn-/261103345031?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3ccaf8dd87)
They are stamped 105db but rumor is they are about 115db. also comes in a nice tin :D
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Nice one Fuzzbom, that's exactly what I'm after. :thumbup Thanks for other replies too.
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hey dazza i can vouch for them acumen horns!!...my gen 1,s got them. mounted each side of rad..loud as fk!! ;)
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What :eek You have two. Now that's an idea. :)
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yea!...picked up this 51plt gen 1 few wks bk(stolen recovered)....needs quite a few bits?..but noticed the horns look like theyd recently bin fitted!...and fk me if nobody hears them they must be ...dead!! :rolleyes
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I've just ordered one. now to sell my stebel on ebay! the acumen says to comply with the EC regulation, the horn is stamped 105dB, but reckon it's 134 next to the horn!
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Stupidly when i tested mine for the first time i was in my closed garage.. ears were ringing.
if you mount 2 you may need a relay due to the current draw. would be interesting to see what one takes to power.
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I've just purchased the acumen too. I have a db meter and will also check the current it draws when it arrives
If it's as good as it sounds 2 might be over kill, but until I get 1 fitted and tested I'm not ruling 2 out as an option
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Just seen this & placed order! Can just about hear standard horn with helmet on using ear plugs so doubt if " Mr Cage" would hear it over the noise of his sound system-not that I go around blasting the horn @ everything but its nice to know that if i have to use it theres a good chance it will be heard! :lol
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Stuck one of them on my watch list for purchase later too.
Budgie
sent from somewhere beyond the rim.
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If like me you want a standard looking horn the acumen ones are good. I got one from these people on ebay [url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acumen-Motorcycle-12V-Extra-Loud-Replacement-Horn-/261103345031?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3ccaf8dd87[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acumen-Motorcycle-12V-Extra-Loud-Replacement-Horn-/261103345031?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3ccaf8dd87[/url])
They are stamped 105db but rumor is they are about 115db. also comes in a nice tin :D
That looks excellent, had a car horn on Gen 1, may try the one I found in the garage on the Gen 2 if there is room, otherwise I will go for this 8)
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I got a Stebel Nautilus copy from ebay for about £14.
Followed these instructions [size=78%]http://yamahafz1oa.com/airhorninstallation.shtml (http://yamahafz1oa.com/airhorninstallation.shtml)[/size][size=78%] [/size]
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I find this does the job brather well, just remember to wire in a relay. http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_221285_langId_-1_categoryId_165704 (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_221285_langId_-1_categoryId_165704)
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I was looking at a Stebel Nautilus but i read they die when they get wet. also seems a ball ache to fit that.. still glad i got the Acumen.I am happy to make quick vid so you peeps can hear the tone and how loud it is.
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I have got to stop coming on this forum,I had never thought about a different horn and now I want a better one!
I have just been on ebay looking at them and now I think I really do need one,even though the only time I use my horn is when I test it before the mot.
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I just found a review on mcn that pretty much slates it for anything bigger than a 125 and people saying the poem was better .
Too late for me cos it's already ordered. I have a sound meter so will check what the original puts out before swapping and post results.
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I just found a review on mcn that pretty much slates it for anything bigger than a 125 and people saying the poem was better .
Too late for me cos it's already ordered. I have a sound meter so will check what the original puts out before swapping and post results.
...hey clayt, dont think you,l have any probs with them?....they on my thou and are deafening?...albeit i got 2 of them!! ;)
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Sound waves are a funny thing though. the frequency can have as much affect as the amplitude of a sound.
When i tested my new acumen in the garage my girlfriend said she could hear it in the house much louder than the original.
For example big fog horns have a bassy tone because it carries further than a high pitch tone.
heres a thought Clayt do some distance comparisons if you can and possibly sit say in a car with the DB meter before and after?
Lets get all mythbusters about it lol
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The stebel having problems after getting wet is possibly to do with people aiming the horns in the air.
Like a dog who has one of those plastic cones after an op!
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i used one of the stebel compact airhorns for a while. was a fair bit of trouble to fit as had to break it apart and fit the compresor under the tank with a relay and the horn section under a side infill with extra tube to conect it up.
Sounded awsome and loved it for a while. but it only lasted a year then had to replace the compressor then had problems with the other bits going brittle and breaking.
so dumped that and got a random horn from the local dealer and its a lot better than std but not as good as the steble (which was one of the best sounding horns i have ever had)
next time i will just throw on a car horn on the OE bracket or go OTT and throw on a set of dixie air horns :P
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Sound waves are a funny thing though. the frequency can have as much affect as the amplitude of a sound.
When i tested my new acumen in the garage my girlfriend said she could hear it in the house much louder than the original.
For example big fog horns have a bassy tone because it carries further than a high pitch tone.
heres a thought Clayt do some distance comparisons if you can and possibly sit say in a car with the DB meter before and after?
Lets get all mythbusters about it lol
I will happily go all mythbusters on it as long as I don't have to blow it up after.
I'm sure I can get the missus to help with some in car measurements :'(
If not I have a scope that will capture the waveform and I can then calculate the attenuation through steel and glass
Will also check current to see if a relay is needed , gut feeling says no tho.
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If like me you want a standard looking horn the acumen ones are good. I got one from these people on ebay [url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acumen-Motorcycle-12V-Extra-Loud-Replacement-Horn-/261103345031?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3ccaf8dd87[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acumen-Motorcycle-12V-Extra-Loud-Replacement-Horn-/261103345031?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3ccaf8dd87[/url])
They are stamped 105db but rumor is they are about 115db. also comes in a nice tin :D
Purchaed one of these to replace my OEM horn which varied in volume according to whim, nothing like venting your anger on an idiotic car driver through the means of an electronic wasp fart. I wouldn't say the replacement horn is noticeably louder than the original but would suggest it's pitch is slightly higher. I'm not displeased as it's obviously a cheap item designed to replace OEM horns and as such it fits the bill assuming it has a reasonable lifespan. For those seeking something significantly more disturbing for errant road users than the OEM horn I would suggest that this is not what you are looking for.
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I got a Stebel Magnum fitted and thats not quite as loud as the Nautilus but its loud enough for me.
Never had a problem with it in over 7 years or so of ownership.
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You may find this review useful: http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-horns/motorcycle-horn-comparison.htm (http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-horns/motorcycle-horn-comparison.htm)
They didn't seem too impressed with the Stebel horns, neither of them worked!
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I have twin air horns and remote compressor on both my bikes and also the car , only about £12 from e bay
The horns fit nicely behind the front fairing panels ,with the compressor, cable tied to the top hose, almost out of sight.
They need a relay and have blown a 15 amp fuse so I use a 20 amp blade fuse.
Great feel good factor when someone is reluctant to move over after an ovetake, never failed yet!
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If like me you want a standard looking horn the acumen ones are good. I got one from these people on ebay [url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acumen-Motorcycle-12V-Extra-Loud-Replacement-Horn-/261103345031?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3ccaf8dd87[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acumen-Motorcycle-12V-Extra-Loud-Replacement-Horn-/261103345031?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3ccaf8dd87[/url])
They are stamped 105db but rumor is they are about 115db. also comes in a nice tin :D
Less than £7 delivered??!! A bargain - I've ordered mine
Colin
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Has anyone got a DB meter and measured just how loud they are..?
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Is this the actual horn or the wiring / switch design? I noticed the other day when i needed mine it was crap! Seems strange, it's as shit as my old 2 stroke ones at tickover - AR50 etc, but never had a problem on previous two R1s or any of my Hondas...? Weird, can the actual horn unit be that rubbish on just a Fazer, never had another bike like it..????
BTW - bargain for £7 the acumen, looked on ebay, mainly breakers - wanting between £6 and £10 for a bloody 10yr old horn. :rolleyes
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My gen 1 had only done 5000 dry miles when i got it but horn was terrible. i would guess in my case it might have seized through lack of use lol. no amount of WD40 improved it. so for me ive no idea of the acumen is better, same or worse even..
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BTW - bargain for £7 the acumen,
I fitted mine yesterday. It's louder than the standard horn I'll admit, but going from the hype I was anticipating a noise more akin to the QE2 arriving in Sydney Harbour. Alas, it reminds me more of that yellow car that Bigears drives Noddy around in. It's a good horn for the price and comes in a neat little tin. But I'll be looking out for something more 'Arooooghah!'
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I'm gonna nick the one off my bro's Blade and see what it sounds like, just ignition on compared to on his bike.
Can't see how another is much louder really.
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I think it's already been said that it isn't any louder than the standard horn (when working properly) but for me it wasn't about being louder, it was about actually working when you press it and not sounding like a toddler blowing into a bugle (which it doesn't) so for 7 quid I'm happy. Now, who wants horning. :b
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Mine's arrived. I'll film the before and after and post it.
One day they'll make an MP3 horn. Record yourself shouting something, then it'll amplify it when you press the button
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Got mines too. Be the weekend before i get time to fit it though
Budgie
sent from somewhere beyond the rim.
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I'm going to have to join the party and get one too. Maybe the Fazer horn being more exposed just leads to it corroding internally quicker, can't quite remember where the R1 horn was hiding.
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I'm going to have to join the party and get one too. Maybe the Fazer horn being more exposed just leads to it corroding internally quicker, can't quite remember where the R1 horn was hiding.
I would advise mounting the Acumen in the same place as the standard horn. If you tried to mount it under the tank it would sound like a bee trapped in a coke can.
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I got a twin pack of horns from Halfords - fitted one each side under the fairing inners.
http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_222209_langId_-1_categoryId_165704#tab1 (http://www.halfords.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_storeId_10001_catalogId_10151_productId_222209_langId_-1_categoryId_165704#tab1)
Seem loud enough for me and a vast improvement on original
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Has anyone got a DB meter and measured just how loud they are..?
Mine is sat at home in its tin still, whilst I'm 300 miles away working. I do have a sound meter and can measure compare frequencies too. I won't be able to do the job this weekend. But full facts should be readyvthe weekend after.
As the thread has developed I'm thinking of following CRH and to fit both via a relay.
Best of both worlds then.
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fitted my Acumen today.. no sound meter for me but did give the old horn a few toots before fittiing the new 'un.. a noticable difference in loudness noted and its actually slightly smaller than the standard one too ('05 FZS1000)
Im happy with it..
Budgie
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I have a Acumen as well as stebel nautikus air horn :lol I love it its saved me one or two times :)
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If like me you want a standard looking horn the acumen ones are good. I got one from these people on ebay [url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acumen-Motorcycle-12V-Extra-Loud-Replacement-Horn-/261103345031?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3ccaf8dd87[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Acumen-Motorcycle-12V-Extra-Loud-Replacement-Horn-/261103345031?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item3ccaf8dd87[/url])
They are stamped 105db but rumor is they are about 115db. also comes in a nice tin :D
That looks excellent, had a car horn on Gen 1, may try the one I found in the garage on the Gen 2 if there is room, otherwise I will go for this 8)
Whoops Insurance wrote off Gen 2 Fazer which dumped me on hard shoulder of M20 after tailpack which I have used for 15 years on numerous bikes without a problem,slipped and locked up the back wheel!
[/size][/color]Was perfectly rideable afterwards ,just not very pretty, crash bungs worked and my hip and elbow probably helped too![/font] :rolleyes
[/size][/color]Have now bought ex demo Fazer 8 for same money as not impressed with fuel consumption of Gen 2 Fazer, so will see what horn sounds like ,as the Acumen has arrived,so may swop.[/font]
[/size][/color]Wonder sometimes what Yamaha are thinking about when they "improve" a model as Gen 1 Fazer 1000 was fantastic,just a bit too heavy for me at my time of life, but enjoyed two amazing years on it[/font] :lol
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Fitted Acumen horn-cant say its noticeably louder than original(which was getting a bit corroded). Still the tins useful!
Grandma-hope youre going to post some pics of your new toy? How do you find the weight compared to Gen 1? Did it come with any goodies fitted? :lol
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Got my brother to test mine today with an ap on his phone so I dont know how accurate this will be but it peaked at 100 dc with the engine running. 99 dc with just the ignition on. In comparison the exhaust peaked at 97dc at 5000rpm (carbon can co.) no baffle. Does this sound about right ?
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Got a Stebel Magnum on mine. It's been there 2 years and had cause to test it recently. It stopped the 4x4 that was pulling out on me. If it hadn't i'd have hit him in the side instead of just clipping the front. Still ended up with a broken headlight but it saved it from being a lot worse.
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On a quiet bypass on Sunday morning, I just held the horn button down for about 10 seconds straight and it has improved the sound no end. Must have blown / vibrated all the crap out and loosened it up a bit.
Free fix ! :)
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Haha I did the same to mine the other day, a light press results in a weedy sound but push a bit harder and for longer and it works better, that said it was never that good from new!!
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I dunno if it will now work OK a few days on, will find out tomorrow when I ride to work.
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Mine used to do this, but when I pressed it I wanted it to work immediately. I also used to find that if I blipped the throttle it would also get louder. Too much to think about when something happens quickly.